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Goblin
 
PostPosted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 23:07 PM 

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In PVP, if a character is turned to stone and then killed - does it require a special raise, or can this be done with a simple scroll?

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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 23:24 PM 

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In PnP, you'd need resurrection - I believe - but don't quote me on that. Here? *Shrug*

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Dark Immolation
 
PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 0:02 AM 

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Depends on how the person is killed, I'd say. I mean once you're petrified, all damage inflicted is pretty much chipping away at you and/or breaking off limbs and stuff. I suppose if someone wants to "decapitate" you while you're petrified or break you in half, then that would require Resurrection, as the body is no longer in one relative piece. And God yes, I think it would require a Resurrection if you were pretty much smashed to bits.

But now the question I'm left with is do you still remain Petrified after you are killed, ICly. I know mechanically, for PC IIRC, you turn back normal again. If you go by WYSIWYG, then you do. But I don't think PnP ever specifies, and in my opinion, you'd still remain stone after you've been killed. You're just dead-and-petrified, no different than being dead-and-frozen or dead-and-on-fire.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 2:40 AM 

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As far as Amia goes you obviously die when broken up, but if you want a more PNP related interpretation to go by in an RP you can refer to the condition description:

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Petrified: A petrified character has been turned to stone and is considered unconscious. If a petrified character cracks or breaks, but the broken pieces are joined with the body as he returns to flesh, he is unharmed. If the character’s petrified body is incomplete when it returns to flesh, the body is likewise incomplete and there is some amount of permanent hit point loss and/or debilitation.


So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh.

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Dark Immolation
 
PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:13 AM 

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Lavek wrote:
So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh.


*Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them* :twisted:


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:29 AM 

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I hope I'm on my salandran if that happens.

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 10:58 AM 

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I think if your going to do anything to someone that requires a special form of raising to return to life, you need the player permission.

As such, it's more a WYSIWYG thing. So raise dead will raise them. Comes down to engine restriction.

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 13:46 PM 

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Dark Immolation wrote:
Lavek wrote:
So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh.


*Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them* :twisted:


*has a far more sinister idea where you break of a certain part on the male and then turn them back* :twisted:

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 14:48 PM 

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Their right hand?

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 16:39 PM 

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HellScourge wrote:
Dark Immolation wrote:
Lavek wrote:
So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh.


*Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them* :twisted:


*has a far more sinister idea where you break of a certain part on the male and then turn them back* :twisted:


*Thinks now that Kellies should start petrifying the baddies, then start redecorating their halls with the new "statues"*

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 17:01 PM 

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:21 PM 

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What have I done...

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Dark Immolation
 
PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:24 PM 

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You've laid the foundation for Amia's own Wall of False and Faithless. That's what you've done.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:28 PM 

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I hope no one casts stone to flesh on the wall at any point. :P

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:33 PM 

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It's Amia. It's inevitable. Just go ahead buy some earplugs. I don't imagine it will sound anything pleasant when dozens of people realize they're nude and melded to other partially dismembered humanoids.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:34 PM 

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Dark Immolation wrote:
It's Amia. It's inevitable. Just go ahead buy some earplugs. I don't imagine it will sound anything pleasant when dozens of people realize they're nude and melded to other partially dismembered humanoids.


Some images cannot be unimagined.

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:39 PM 

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So I put these questions to Erroch and after his brief chuckle he said I should post these:

1) If you petrify a kobold and a human...remove both heads and switch them...cast mending on the statues...then stone to flesh...what happens?

2) If you petrify a giant (or something similarly large enough to provide enough stone), can you use the body to create a Stone Golem?

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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:59 PM 

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FastKev wrote:
So I put these questions to Erroch and after his brief chuckle he said I should post these:

1) If you petrify a kobold and a human...remove both heads and switch them...cast mending on the statues...then stone to flesh...what happens?

2) If you petrify a giant (or something similarly large enough to provide enough stone), can you use the body to create a Stone Golem?


In case #2, after binding the elemental to the Stone form, what happens when you hit flesh to stone, is the elemental still bound. Does random planar party time ensue?

It is times like this I regret Dominik's lawful good alignment, or I'd find out.

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1: Death of both, I assume.

2: No, probably not.

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Dark Immolation
 
PostPosted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:58 AM 

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PnP usually makes a distinction between magical and non-magical stone I think. Petrifying someone makes them into some sort of psuedo-stone I imagine, not the same as if you had actually transmuted/wished them to like granite or something. So when you try to cast mending on them, it doesn't specify, but I'd imagine it falls into that non-natural material, no-go area.

Though that would be cool though if it did. Transmute someone to granite then cast Transmute Stone to Mud. Never see their ass again, I bet. >_>


 
      
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