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Goblin
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 23:07 PM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: Scotland
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In PVP, if a character is turned to stone and then killed - does it require a special raise, or can this be done with a simple scroll?
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Lydyn
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 23:24 PM |
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Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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In PnP, you'd need resurrection - I believe - but don't quote me on that. Here? *Shrug*
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 0:02 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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Depends on how the person is killed, I'd say. I mean once you're petrified, all damage inflicted is pretty much chipping away at you and/or breaking off limbs and stuff. I suppose if someone wants to "decapitate" you while you're petrified or break you in half, then that would require Resurrection, as the body is no longer in one relative piece. And God yes, I think it would require a Resurrection if you were pretty much smashed to bits.
But now the question I'm left with is do you still remain Petrified after you are killed, ICly. I know mechanically, for PC IIRC, you turn back normal again. If you go by WYSIWYG, then you do. But I don't think PnP ever specifies, and in my opinion, you'd still remain stone after you've been killed. You're just dead-and-petrified, no different than being dead-and-frozen or dead-and-on-fire.
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Lavek
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 2:40 AM |
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Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: -6 GMT (CST)
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As far as Amia goes you obviously die when broken up, but if you want a more PNP related interpretation to go by in an RP you can refer to the condition description: Quote: Petrified: A petrified character has been turned to stone and is considered unconscious. If a petrified character cracks or breaks, but the broken pieces are joined with the body as he returns to flesh, he is unharmed. If the character’s petrified body is incomplete when it returns to flesh, the body is likewise incomplete and there is some amount of permanent hit point loss and/or debilitation. So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh.
_________________ - Trentin Lanner, Salandran Templar - Bulnar Ironstriker, Dwarven Defender
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:13 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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Lavek wrote: So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh. *Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them* 
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Lavek
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:29 AM |
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Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: -6 GMT (CST)
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I hope I'm on my salandran if that happens.
_________________ - Trentin Lanner, Salandran Templar - Bulnar Ironstriker, Dwarven Defender
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 10:58 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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I think if your going to do anything to someone that requires a special form of raising to return to life, you need the player permission.
As such, it's more a WYSIWYG thing. So raise dead will raise them. Comes down to engine restriction.
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HellScourge
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 13:46 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Location: GMT+1
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Dark Immolation wrote: Lavek wrote: So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh. *Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them*  *has a far more sinister idea where you break of a certain part on the male and then turn them back* 
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Yurell
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 14:48 PM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Their right hand?
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 16:39 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Location: Vaasa, Finland
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HellScourge wrote: Dark Immolation wrote: Lavek wrote: So you are considered unconscious even if you're in a hundred pieces. You don't die till you're turned back to flesh. *Has evil fantasy of his character turning someone to stone, breaking their arms and lower jaw off, and then casting Stone to Flesh on them*  *has a far more sinister idea where you break of a certain part on the male and then turn them back*  *Thinks now that Kellies should start petrifying the baddies, then start redecorating their halls with the new "statues"*
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erroch
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 17:01 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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Job ranks in Stonemason. The possibilities are endless
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Lavek
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:21 PM |
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Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: -6 GMT (CST)
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What have I done...
_________________ - Trentin Lanner, Salandran Templar - Bulnar Ironstriker, Dwarven Defender
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:24 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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You've laid the foundation for Amia's own Wall of False and Faithless. That's what you've done.
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Lavek
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:28 PM |
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Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: -6 GMT (CST)
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I hope no one casts stone to flesh on the wall at any point. 
_________________ - Trentin Lanner, Salandran Templar - Bulnar Ironstriker, Dwarven Defender
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:33 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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It's Amia. It's inevitable. Just go ahead buy some earplugs. I don't imagine it will sound anything pleasant when dozens of people realize they're nude and melded to other partially dismembered humanoids.
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Goblin
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:34 PM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: Scotland
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Dark Immolation wrote: It's Amia. It's inevitable. Just go ahead buy some earplugs. I don't imagine it will sound anything pleasant when dozens of people realize they're nude and melded to other partially dismembered humanoids. Some images cannot be unimagined.
_________________ "O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, But take away our pride."
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FastKev
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:39 PM |
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Joined: 21 Aug 2010
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So I put these questions to Erroch and after his brief chuckle he said I should post these:
1) If you petrify a kobold and a human...remove both heads and switch them...cast mending on the statues...then stone to flesh...what happens?
2) If you petrify a giant (or something similarly large enough to provide enough stone), can you use the body to create a Stone Golem?
_________________ Nhalis Sauvan - Flamboyantly Amusing Brasskin-Bard Zal Marrak - Druid with a case of Shifter [inactive]
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erroch
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 20:59 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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FastKev wrote: So I put these questions to Erroch and after his brief chuckle he said I should post these:
1) If you petrify a kobold and a human...remove both heads and switch them...cast mending on the statues...then stone to flesh...what happens?
2) If you petrify a giant (or something similarly large enough to provide enough stone), can you use the body to create a Stone Golem? In case #2, after binding the elemental to the Stone form, what happens when you hit flesh to stone, is the elemental still bound. Does random planar party time ensue? It is times like this I regret Dominik's lawful good alignment, or I'd find out.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:15 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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1: Death of both, I assume.
2: No, probably not.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:58 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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PnP usually makes a distinction between magical and non-magical stone I think. Petrifying someone makes them into some sort of psuedo-stone I imagine, not the same as if you had actually transmuted/wished them to like granite or something. So when you try to cast mending on them, it doesn't specify, but I'd imagine it falls into that non-natural material, no-go area.
Though that would be cool though if it did. Transmute someone to granite then cast Transmute Stone to Mud. Never see their ass again, I bet. >_>
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