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Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 3:08 AM 



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Here is a general question for the playerbase: are there any particular rulesets or details that we have on the forums that you find yourself regularly having to minimize/ignore the game for in order to look them up in detail? PvP Engagement rules, chat command details, assassination rules, metagaming specifics, etc. Maybe something you'd find handy to be spelled out in your IG journal without having to keep looking on the forum?


 
      
Estara
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 3:26 AM 



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Chat command details, definitely.


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 3:29 AM 

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Estara wrote:
Chat command details, definitely.

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Manarethan
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 3:43 AM 

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As far as I'm aware, all of the chat command details are already in the Journal, under 'Additions to Standard NWN'.


 
      
Liz
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 4:12 AM 

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You can shout a single question mark into the shout channel, and get a listing of all the shout commands.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 6:10 AM 

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It would be awesome if we could shout command the main rules

e.g "/s pvp" and get a concise listing of PvP rules or any rule to be honest. The journal is clunky as fuck and I hate it.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 7:37 AM 

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MoshingChris wrote:
It would be awesome if we could shout command the main rules

e.g "/s pvp" and get a concise listing of PvP rules or any rule to be honest. The journal is clunky as fuck and I hate it.

Reading great walls of text in the combat log? Aint nobody got time for dat.


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 14:47 PM 

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To be honest the only thing i ever found myself minimizing nwn for, on the detail spectrum, is clothes and armor colors for when I was doing armor modifications.

And thats really not something that can be simplified into the game unless the color crafting menu is totally reworked

total spitball with zero forethought

First menu list would be the base colors, eg reds, yellows, oranges, blues, greens, metallics...
after that would be another submenu that lists associated colors. I think there are something like 300 colors in the module though, and menu depth is 10?

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 15:48 PM 

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Personally I prefer the 'scroll through' mode - but that's cos I tend not to have a palette in mind. I also have it hardwired in my brain that 64 is blackholeblack.

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Goldwater
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 16:28 PM 

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Cleaning up the journal would be wonderful. Make it simple and well organized with clear titles.


 
      
Estara
 
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Ha-ha! I never knew it was already there because it was under "Completed Quests." My mistake... maybe others make it too?


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 22:40 PM 

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555444333 wrote:
Personally I prefer the 'scroll through' mode - but that's cos I tend not to have a palette in mind. I also have it hardwired in my brain that 64 is blackholeblack.


Actually, that's Dark Rose. Pure Black is 63.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 10 2014, 22:53 PM 

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Except chat commands and etc, I've never had to minimize or tab to the forums to check for a rule. But there are the ocassions in which I have to bring something out in a link to an IC post or something in the lore section.

Common sense, or nudge a DM if that fails.

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 5:25 AM 

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Please put the PvP rules in game, so that the incredibly huge number of players who are unaware of how they work can have a read, and maybe learn something. Might lead to less crying OOC when someone starts a fight, and loses, and needs to try and resort to OOC to get over it.

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Glim
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 8:15 AM 

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The rules on dungeon "ownership".


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 8:19 AM 

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Glim wrote:
The rules on dungeon "ownership".


Yes please!

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 9:53 AM 

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I use the "Don't be a dick" rule. It covers nearly all the bases!

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 9:55 AM 

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Richard_Edmund wrote:
I use the "Don't be a dick" rule. It covers nearly all the bases!


The one rule to rule them all!

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Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 12:57 PM 



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I take it that the ability to do the /s ? command IG to bring up the whole chat command list has not been helpful (or known about?)


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:00 PM 

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Silkelock wrote:
Glim wrote:
The rules on dungeon "ownership".


Yes please!

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:27 PM 

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Every single chatt command should be on a sign in the entry. Even I, who have played for 8 YEARS, do not know half of them.

There was suppose to be an update to the entry a while back I remember? Terra said something about it...?

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Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:47 PM 



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What good would the chat commands do posted in the entry when most people use them IG and not in the Entry, thus making them more feasibly placed either as they are now, being able to be pulled up by typing a few keystrokes into the field, or in the journal that follows you everywhere?


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:51 PM 

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Rule of thumb. I only beat women with sticks smaller than my thumb. Luckily I have big thumbs.

Chaotic Loot and Don't be a Dick.
^^ Favorite rules.

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 15:12 PM 

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Yossarin wrote:
I take it that the ability to do the /s ? command IG to bring up the whole chat command list has not been helpful (or known about?)


I think it's just not known about for the most part.

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Goldwater
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 16:10 PM 

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I propose all completed quests go to a single Completed Quests journal entry so the journal isn't crowded,

then, clear titles explaining things like this be created in a small number of additional journal entries:

General Information
PVP and Server Rules
Lists and Numbers
Shout Commands


 
      
Glim
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 17:33 PM 

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It's too much info for one journal entry. However the rules entries will be titled differently and colored differently so as to "stick out" above the regular completed entries.


 
      
Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 17:52 PM 



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How much info can go into a single journal entry, Glim?


 
      
Glim
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 18:11 PM 

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Not sure of an exact number but for sake of argument lets keep it under 1000 characters, including spaces.


 
      
Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 11 2014, 18:15 PM 



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That seems consistent with the current journal entries, for the most part, so cool.


 
      
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PostPosted: Wed, Feb 12 2014, 18:50 PM 

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The only thing I minimize NWN to find out on the website is spell changes.

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Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Thu, Feb 13 2014, 22:09 PM 



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Kamina wrote:
Silkelock wrote:
Glim wrote:
The rules on dungeon "ownership".


Yes please!


Does anyone have a link to DM ruling text related to this subject? I don't see it in the Rules subforum, so...


 
      
mirvala-
 
PostPosted: Thu, Feb 13 2014, 22:16 PM 

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It's like just one sentence in the "Other things you shouldn't do" in an journal entry, I think.

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Yossarin
 
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Yup, I got that. Just wondered if it was spelled out on more detail somewhere on the forum.


 
      
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Manarethan wrote:
666WaysToHell wrote:
Roleplay comes before hunting. If you have a paladin who spots an undead in the party ahead you approach them. talk to them, if it comes to PvP and you happen to win, just move on to another dungeon and don't take theirs. Simple!


Exactly this. We are not going to have 'who is better at PvP' be the decider in who has claim to a dungeon. If you are there first, you have claim. PvP and hostile situations don't mean another person can take claim to the dungeon you and your group are in. Coming into a dungeon already claimed, PvPing the party in there and then taking their claim is against the server rules, and that isn't changing. The exception to this is, of course, if -both- parties agree that the claim can be decided by PvP, and then do so (following all PvP rules and with suitable RP).


this is from the general discussion thread titled this has to stop. not sure if it helps.

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I don't think there IS a ruling on the forums about it, but... Grapple.

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sYuzan wrote:
I don't think there IS a ruling on the forums about it, but... Grapple.

The ruling given in the Unwritten Rules thread is that there is no special rule regarding grappling. It's a PnP roll just like any other, usable only by consent of the target, and not subject to any special authority.

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PostPosted: Sun, Feb 16 2014, 23:29 PM 

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Just what constitutes 'PG-13' (and is the server still said setting?)

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Yossarin
 
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It is not, but that subject is addressed in the draft.


 
      
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Liz wrote:
sYuzan wrote:
I don't think there IS a ruling on the forums about it, but... Grapple.

The ruling given in the Unwritten Rules thread is that there is no special rule regarding grappling. It's a PnP roll just like any other, usable only by consent of the target, and not subject to any special authority.

It's not PnP because it's mechanically implemented in the game. It is however a dice roll, so it is subject to player/DM permission for that instead!

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