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Just for me, or is there a more general connection issue?

You're not alone, gangster.

Running in the gutter for me as well.

yeah was running like the fat kid in gym class

Few minutes, starts like a bit of a delay and ends in total freeze?

On the topic of running

"When I see two gas men running as hard as you two were, I figured I'd better run too!"

A running joke!
Anyway - I feel some small spikes. Maybe it's that Neanderthal Belgium kid that have resorted to spamming and overloading the server instead?

It does seem better now for me.

Last edited by Travis on Thu, May 05 2011, 21:28 PM, edited 1 time in total.

You've obviously never had to chase a pig before. Even when you're not wearing wellies or knee deep in their shit, they're harder to catch than a raptor. Just ask Robert Muldoon.

I wouldn't be aware of any slowdown, given my piece of crap computer.

Travis wrote:

Just ask Robert Muldoon.

He lives in the book, you know.

It's a little known fact that his famous scene was cut out of Babe and was rehashed for Jurassic Park.

Definitely not alone, I'm actually on the forums because my party logged off as hunting became too dangerous for comfort. Flat-foot ac, spell cast delay, and movement freeze, oh my-

I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

tap

tap

tap

Hey!, my shoes! *gasp*

goodgrafalecious. it's running awful as of 40 min's ago i had to log and i know i have a good connection.

The last few days now it has seemed to be eternally laggy, my ISP is coming from a server about an hour north of Toronto, to where ever the amia server is at present. Usually happened a lot in WoW too.

Usually in situations like this its someone doing something between me and where my bandwith is going, working on lines, maintainence, etc. But it seems like with so many having issues its affecting a wider swath of a geographical area so now I dont know what the hell.

Last night it ran okay but ill have to see how it behaves when I get home from work tonight.

I have noticed increased lag for the past few days as well. The forest areas do this even when I am alone now. The other day, there was four or five of us and a few animals, and I couldn't even turn the camera without locking the screen for several seconds, I was useless in combat because my character was hopping around so much.

It's been awful, I agree. Even today (6th) at around 7 am for me, I lagged out so bad that I had to log out and log back in just to finish a job-related quest.

seems a lot of lag once server is near reset.

Not going to lie the server is running slow. Wife told me about this thread after I restarted my computer and tried to act all tech savvy and stuff. Did the whole check my network thing and all but got told two things.

1) Wife- "Ahh we only have one network the others are the ones around the neighborhood."
Me- "*Eyes the Gamer tag thinger in network and brushes nose* pfft I knew that. ((in reality I felt dumb as I didn't know that.))

2) Me- "Bah bloody things running slow again. Must be all the updates and stuff I been delaying and junk. *Fiddles with the updates and restarts computer to find it being slow still.*
Wife- "Ahh yah servers slow Disco posted on the forums about it."

And right about there I had the anime blank face as yet again I have been proved to be a idiot. Which is why I stick to BBQing. As it is the one thing my wife cannot do and seems to be the one that I am extremely good at. But yes I believe the server is just slow lately. Hopefully you work it all out.

It appears to be lagging rather wonderfully at the moment. It was fine for me before the reset, after reset it hardly even let me into the server, once i got in i made it out to the Nexus Falls, where i was DC'd, but not removed from the server afaik. I did not get kicked, but i could not get anything typed to go threw, and if i moved my char would return to his previous facing, much like a normal crash.

You been DLing porn onto the server again?

jitters alot recently, and its no longer on my end in my case, my conenction is alot faster than the days where it seamed to always lag for me. (turns out that was my isp's bad.)

i've noticed -alot- more people complaining about the 'invisible creatures' bug also but personally haven't suffered that since before the spider valley change.

eh, then i had no lag at all up tell i logged for a nap.

Also, last night, my screen blinked and everyone around me was gone, I could still see their text popping up. I logged off and on again, that corrected it.

...That's graphic issues on your end.

I get timed out all the time. I'm even close to the server and my ping is always great on Amia. It takes a while, but then I can log back on seeing half of the people still on the server as if nothing happened. It happened about three days ago.

Azekial wrote:

Not going to lie the server is running slow. Wife told me about this thread after I restarted my computer and tried to act all tech savvy and stuff. Did the whole check my network thing and all but got told two things.

1) Wife- "Ahh we only have one network the others are the ones around the neighborhood."
Me- "*Eyes the Gamer tag thinger in network and brushes nose* pfft I knew that. ((in reality I felt dumb as I didn't know that.))

2) Me- "Bah bloody things running slow again. Must be all the updates and stuff I been delaying and junk. *Fiddles with the updates and restarts computer to find it being slow still.*
Wife- "Ahh yah servers slow Disco posted on the forums about it."

And right about there I had the anime blank face as yet again I have been proved to be a idiot. Which is why I stick to BBQing. As it is the one thing my wife cannot do and seems to be the one that I am extremely good at. But yes I believe the server is just slow lately. Hopefully you work it all out.

If it runs slow almost all the time the problem is at your end. The complete standstills that happen now and then is what this thread is about.

Speaking of I ran into a cluster of this again today, I went so far as to run the modem directly into my PC and use a network monitor, took all the firewalls I had up offline for a while too no changes, the output is throughly down across the board and its localised to Amia only as I logged into 3 other servers hosted in various points on the globe.

Looking at something in the neighbourhood of 600-700ms if not higher regardless of Wifi connections and firewalls present.

Yeah I just ran a tracert because it seems like my household internet runs like crap when I'm on Amia at this time of day.

10 123 ms 121 ms 122 ms xe-8-2-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.81.145]
11 123 ms 123 ms 122 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
12 127 ms 126 ms 126 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
13 122 ms 122 ms 123 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

This is where the hops got lengthy. It's not terrible, but still worse than the sub 30ms the previous hops where.
Continuous ping of 340 packets showed just a 6% loss and max of 141ms though. Nothing too major.
For comparison, I did a 100 ping of google.com and the results were 6% loss and a max of 56ms.

Could just be my internet right now, too, even though it's been happening for a few days now. But, it's happened before haha.

edit: Also, the forums tend to run like crap too. I can't believe Amia is sucking bandwith from my connection, so I'm really assuming it's our internet. Yay!

grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90] was spewing all over itself. about 7:17 GMT-7.
Packetloss and slow throughput.
Its currently at 7% or so.

Anything over 2-3% packet loss is unacceptable.

Kind of thing the chicken needs to gab at Grafix.nl about so they can complain to their provider of internets about it.

Also within their own network in europe, even within europe, they're adding 150ms between them and the provider's @ Grafix.nl's connect.

Not acceptable performance at all.

yeah forums for me are running slow as hell.

I'm all good here.

Dwagin wrote:

grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90] was spewing all over itself. about 7:17 GMT-7.
Packetloss and slow throughput.
Its currently at 7% or so.

Anything over 2-3% packet loss is unacceptable.

Kind of thing the chicken needs to gab at Grafix.nl about so they can complain to their provider of internets about it.

Also within their own network in europe, even within europe, they're adding 150ms between them and the provider's @ Grafix.nl's connect.

Not acceptable performance at all.

They already searching for a solution. Can you get me that date/time in GMT+1?

well while everyone else has been complaining about the lag, the server has been running lag free for me. My tell conversations with others have been "Dood, there must be something you are doing. If the system itself were laggy, I'd be the laggiest. Yeah? Well, FU too..."

So, I thought I'd do a traceroute, as a comparison between those with lag and those without.

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 9 ms 8 ms 6 ms 74-128-152-1.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.128.152.1]
3 7 ms 8 ms 12 ms 74-128-19-141.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.128.19.141]

4 7 ms 8 ms 9 ms 74.128.9.229
5 19 ms 20 ms 18 ms xe-9-3-0.edge4.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.59.12.61]

6 21 ms 20 ms 18 ms vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.150.126]
7 45 ms 36 ms 34 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Miami1.Level3.net [4.69.140.141]
8 32 ms 33 ms 32 ms ae-2-52.edge2.Miami2.Level3.net [4.69.138.109]
9 699 ms 32 ms 32 ms xe-7-2-0.mia10.ip4.tinet.net [173.241.128.137]
10 141 ms 140 ms 141 ms xe-1-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.183.122]
11 141 ms 140 ms 143 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
12 145 ms 226 ms 207 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
13 144 ms 144 ms 143 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

yesterday was heavy lag for me, it was gmt -3, midnight here.

Ya, I was getting major lag and I am EST. It caused me to crash a good bit of times but finally went away like 30 minutes before I logged

I was very slow between 0300 - 0400 GMT on 10 May. It was taking up to 5 s at times to open inventory pages or bags, or to speak. I also had some difficulty connecting and NWN actually crashed on me in west Cordor, which hardly ever happens.

Dev Disco wrote:

Dwagin wrote:

grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90] was spewing all over itself. about 7:17 GMT-7.
Packetloss and slow throughput.
Its currently at 7% or so.

Anything over 2-3% packet loss is unacceptable.

Kind of thing the chicken needs to gab at Grafix.nl about so they can complain to their provider of internets about it.

Also within their own network in europe, even within europe, they're adding 150ms between them and the provider's @ Grafix.nl's connect.

Not acceptable performance at all.

They already searching for a solution. Can you get me that date/time in GMT+1?

May 08 2011, 1517-1540 or so gmt +1

The more GMT +1 times (as exact as possible) and tracert stuff I get the better.

7 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms pos-3-3-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.109]
8 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos-1-1-0-0-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.38]
9 23 ms 32 ms 23 ms xe-9-0-0.chi10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.71.145]
10 122 ms 182 ms 123 ms xe-8-2-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.81.145]
11 123 ms 121 ms 128 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
12 127 ms 126 ms 126 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
13 125 ms 121 ms 122 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

Here's my tracert right now, when the forum was running slow for a moment.
2011/05/11 2:16 AM (GMT+1)

tracert while forums running slow

7 22 ms 23 ms 24 ms pos-3-3-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.109]
8 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos-1-1-0-0-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.38]
9 25 ms 24 ms 22 ms xe-9-0-0.chi10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.71.145]
10 124 ms 123 ms 123 ms xe-8-2-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.81.145]
11 126 ms 123 ms 122 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
12 126 ms 128 ms * csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
13 121 ms 122 ms 124 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

tracert after modem/router reboot

7 22 ms 23 ms 26 ms pos-3-3-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.109]
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos-1-1-0-0-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.38]
9 24 ms 25 ms 23 ms xe-9-0-0.chi10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.71.145]
10 122 ms 122 ms 124 ms xe-8-2-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.81.145]
11 123 ms 122 ms 123 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
12 126 ms 126 ms 126 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
13 122 ms 124 ms 124 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

2011/05/12 2:57 AM (GMT+1)

Seems about this time is the only time I ever have issues.

tracert with burst lag happening

6 70 ms 49 ms 67 ms kbn-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.253.200]
7 51 ms 49 ms 55 ms xe-0-3-0.cph10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.73.113]
8 82 ms 74 ms 81 ms xe-5-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.186.201]
9 59 ms 60 ms 61 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
10 * 66 ms * csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
11 78 ms 81 ms 78 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

edit:
nevermind.. discovered the source of this spiking. It's from a recent Win7 Update. If anyone is experiencing this but not using an ipv6 connection, I suggest you do the following:
open up cmd with admin rights.
write:
netsh interface 6to4 set state disabled
netsh interface teredo set state disabled
then go to your network connections, find the connection, open up properties and make sure ipv6 is unchecked/disabled. Cleared it right up for me. And three curses on microsoft for discontinuing the awesome repair function on network connections..

May 19th 2011 15:49 GMT+1 - Still going on at least as of 15:56gmt +1

5 12 ms 13 ms 11 ms pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.50]
6 17 ms 16 ms 15 ms pos-0-2-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.10]
7 14 ms 16 ms 16 ms xe-9-3-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.80.165]
8 * 203 ms 201 ms xe-1-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.183.122]
9 198 ms 205 ms 204 ms grafix-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.94.90]
10 * 204 ms 206 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
11 210 ms 208 ms 202 ms mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]

Trace complete.

C:\>ping -t 89.149.183.122

Pinging 89.149.183.122 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=208ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=209ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=212ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=212ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=206ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=204ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=209ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=212ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=212ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=209ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=209ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=218ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=202ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=202ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=53
Request timed out.
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=53
Reply from 89.149.183.122: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 89.149.183.122:
Packets: Sent = 48, Received = 36, Lost = 12 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 199ms, Maximum = 218ms, Average = 205ms

That's pretty bad... it's the place where about half the connections from the USA enter Western Europe, if I am not mistaken.

I don't know how to use that tracer thing, but I can tell you Amia has, to quote the thread, been running like a pig for me. I checked to see if it was my end and it's not. My internet and computer are fine concerning speed...if anything when it's not storming it's faster than it's ever been. Until I get on Amia...then my character starts to do the running man.

Been getting very weird lag on Amia lately. I'm getting huge lagspikes that I can't track down with tracert, because when they hit everything just freezes so it times out or registres as normal.

It's not my net, I've figured out that much.. so I'm not sure if it's an NWN thing or an Amia thing. If anyone have any tips, it'd be appreciated.

edit:

Tried reinstalling NWN and it didn't fix it.. Also this problem seems localized to server B only.

edit2:

tried pinging mail.amiaworld.net during a 20 second freeze with fast responses and low MS.
So it's apparently not that either..

Now I'm guessing it might be a Win7 + NWN thing and gonna try to locate the problem there. If that's it, it might explain why some players get alot of lag, and some don't get any at all.

Server running like a pig

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