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Sin4given
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 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 15:49 PM |
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Question. For a pure STR based monk when making him, would you put STR to 18? And if taking Dev crit fist, would it be worth it, or would it be a waste?
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choco
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 15:50 PM |
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Location: Finland
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What race?  Edit: to Chizbo (PM sent)
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psycho
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 15:57 PM |
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I was wondering how this build could fare, I believe it could be quite efficient and am asking for comments....
FeyTouched Bard16/ftr4/BG9
Base Stats
Str:14 Final Buffed+ Items(min) Str: 22
Dex:16 Dex: 36
Con:12 Con:20
Int:14 Int:14
Wis: 8 Wis:8
Cha:16 Cha:28
And yes those stats are feasible with Empower Spell and BlackGuard Bull's Strength Stacking
Damage wise we'll be speaking about 1d6(rapier) + 5 (str) + 6 (EWS) + 3 (Bard Song) + 2 ( Warcry) + 5 Weapon + 1d8 Flame Weapon Scroll + 9 (Divine Might) which should average around 38 damage per Hit CritX2 ( 15-20 )
AB should be "okay", around 46 With Bard Song, True Strike scrolls and Curse Song when needed
AC wise, I find it rather hard to calculate....but should be around ( based on + 4 gear) + 4 Armor, + 13 Dex, + 4 natural, + 4 deflection, + 7 ( + 4 Tower Shield) + 6 Tumble, + 5 Bard Song, + 4 Haste, + 2 Armor Skin, + 1 Mage armor, + 9 Divine Shield for a total of around= 69 Fully Buffed NOT COUNTING Curse Song with CONCEILMENT
So, what are your thoughts?
I was just thinking perhaps DAMAGE and ATTACK BONUS might not be quite enough, but then again 5 attacks per round Hasted might compensate.
And OH, Nice SAVES and an extra 3d6 sneak damage when needed.
Please comment.
Oh and I've always DREAMT of soloing Actand so was wondering if "This Was IT" lol
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 17:20 PM |
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Well, Uh - You're going to loose out on a lot of 'Bardiness' with just 16 Bard levels. The key to a bard is, In my sole opinion, Lingering song. Because then you can make much more use of the Curse song due to having a 10 minute long duration of the normal song. Suddenly you just need 2 Lyrics during one rest period, instead of 15-16. Not to mention the extra spells and spell duration of a 20 bard far surpasses the 16. I'd say if you are determined to go the bard/BG route - Go 20Bard/10BG. It's a sucky version, but it'll work and you'll net Divine might/Shield and the 4:th attack per round if you do it proper. Have you checked out the extra additions to the blackguard class Amia gives?
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psycho
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 17:31 PM |
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Hmmm
Interesting.
Though I'm thinking minus SIX damage (no EWS) will make her feel like she's poking monsters around with a stick, no?
Just thinking...
Though 32 average a hit instead of 38 aint THAT bad....
Yes, i've checked the new BG Feats and spells but Bard kinda has some of the same things.
And, while Unholy Sword can be interesting for PVP I personnally don't find the new additions particularily interesting for someone who only takes ten bard levels. ( 20 BG levels with special summons looks amazing though )
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 17:32 PM |
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You'll be a lot more squishy without those extra bard levels. Trust me. You're better off sacreficing the Blackguard levels if you are desperate for EWS.
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psycho
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 17:36 PM |
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But I want good saves too! lol
*sighs*
Somehow I'll figure it out.
By "squishy", I don't really see what Lingering Song grants power wise, besides the handiness of not having to use Bard Song in battle as much, as in , like, saving a round once in a while. And 28 charisma grants PLENTY of Bard bonus spells....
But I admit your suggestion is tempting nonetheless.
By the way in my orignal build I was planning for Lasting Inspiration.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 18:43 PM |
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don't make a bard with less than 20 bard, if you're using bard as the main dish.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 18:54 PM |
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Location: Finland
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The question is why not? Well, with that concept it's rather obvious: 4 levels of Bard are to more avail than 4 Fighter. But really, you can create a proper bard without Lasting Winspiration, it's just more painful to buff and less useful to the party.
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DerkDerkistan
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:00 PM |
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Location: Earth
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: Incorrect. Papa Wiki wrote: Pale masters can take epic spells at level 15, regardless of spell casting ability, provided they meet the spellcraft requirements. The duration of the spells chosen while leveling as a pale master will be based on pale master levels. Wasn't that changed here, though? I thought Amia made it so you can't cast epic spells unless you can cast level 9. It's why Bard/PMs don't have access to them...
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:04 PM |
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Back in the old days there were plenty of those EMA-Dev-RDD-PM whores, but they perished along with the Dev nerf. I haven't heard of any changes to that, but then again, I tend to live a bit under a rock at times.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:12 PM |
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DerkDerkistan wrote: Uncle-Opustus wrote: Incorrect. Papa Wiki wrote: Pale masters can take epic spells at level 15, regardless of spell casting ability, provided they meet the spellcraft requirements. The duration of the spells chosen while leveling as a pale master will be based on pale master levels. Wasn't that changed here, though? I thought Amia made it so you can't cast epic spells unless you can cast level 9. It's why Bard/PMs don't have access to them... You need 20 in your casting stat.
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DerkDerkistan
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:30 PM |
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Hm, my mistake then. I had thought it was both level 9 spells and 20 in the casting stat. Apologies.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:31 PM |
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: The question is why not? Well, with that concept it's rather obvious: 4 levels of Bard are to more avail than 4 Fighter. But really, you can create a proper bard without Lasting Winspiration, it's just more painful to buff and less useful to the party. He'll be using all his SongUses to buff, and none to debuff... It's gonna be horrible! Edit - A sad fact is that you only need 15 bard levels to access all the Extra Bardsongs in game. 
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2011, 19:41 PM |
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That doesn't mean they'll be given to you though.
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Glyph
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 1:34 AM |
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I'm stuck on subraces again, what happens exactly if you combine hin, or gnomes, or elves even, with gensai? I recall something to the effect of 'they don't stack' but what about small stature and elves sleeplessness and stuff?
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 1:39 AM |
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Most of the feats stack... most. The human extra skill point per level doesn't, for instance.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 2:46 AM |
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though that's because the feat "Quick to Master" doesn't actualy DO anything, and it's all coded to the "Human" race itself.
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Lord-Jyssev
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 5:54 AM |
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Location: Midwest USA
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A character idea that I had just recently is that of a Druid/Bard/RDD split. Ideally, there would be 10 RDD levels and Dragon Shape. Is this build at all viable? The concept is a dragon-blooded druid who is a warden of sorts to the area that that dragon type corresponds to. (Red drake: mountains, green: forest, blue: desert)
I thought it was an interesting idea and not one that I had heard of before on Amia, at least.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 6:01 AM |
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Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Not possible.
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psycho
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 6:42 AM |
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Alright. I think i've figured it out.
Bard20/Ftr4/Bg5 (FeyTouched, + 2 cha and Dex )
That way I can get Lasting Inspiration, focus a bit less on CHA ( 20 charisma Base with item ) and still get + 5 to all saves
With Bard Song I'd get + 2 to saves except + 3 to Will. And Feytouched is another + 4 Will just there....
And since i'd take Empowered Spell, with 20 caster levels I think I could manage to hit Max STR ( 26 in my build ) Max DEX (36) and still have some place for a + 4 universal saves ITEM which would, in total, grant around + 11 more than base saves i'd have, which I suppose would be pretty good.
Damage wise, for a DEX bard, i'm figuring 1d6+ (str)8+ (EWS) 6 + (+5 weapon) 5 + (bard song) 3 + (warcry) 2 + ( flame weapon scroll ) 1d8 could be -okay-... ( average of 32 )considering she'd get 5 attacks per round hasted. And yes i'd ditch divine might and divine shield. AC should be acceptable.
It's sort of a "compromise" ... i'm figuring i'd get a nice amount of spells per day too.
Hey you finally convinced me of taking those 20 Bard Levels.... 4 minutes of extended Haste per cast just seems too good....
Oh....how about Str Based? I'm figuring i'd lose 4 AC and alot of mobility, not to mention no casting in armor except if I take Still Spell...All that for an extra 5-6 damage per hit....And also most STR bonus races have penalties to Charisma ....
GAH! Or 5 Cleric Levels instead of BlackGuard with animal domain and then get a ..... Celestial Avenger ( lvl 7 ) as a Summon when she casts Summon 6. That could be SO cool for RP....
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 9:24 AM |
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If you're going 4 Fighter levels, I'd suggest going str based and even aim for Dev.crit.
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Ulir
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 10:06 AM |
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Lord-Jyssev wrote: A character idea that I had just recently is that of a Druid/Bard/RDD split. Ideally, there would be 10 RDD levels and Dragon Shape. Is this build at all viable? The concept is a dragon-blooded druid who is a warden of sorts to the area that that dragon type corresponds to. (Red drake: mountains, green: forest, blue: desert)
I thought it was an interesting idea and not one that I had heard of before on Amia, at least. Someone asked for such not long ago. Go 28 druid/1 bard/1 rdd if you wish for dragonblood and dragonshape. There are alternative builds of course. _________________ 
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Lord-Jyssev
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 14:08 PM |
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Location: Midwest USA
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In testing I came just 1 WIS short, unfortunately. I revised it to do 24 druid for a bonus feat 1 bard 5 RDD, however I wasn't able to take dragon feat and the 4th Great WIS in the same level. Is that a bug or is that a known limitation?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 14:16 PM |
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Known limitation. You need 30Wis -Before- taking the feat.
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TeroSNS
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 14:29 PM |
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Sin4given wrote: Question. For a pure STR based monk when making him, would you put STR to 18? And if taking Dev crit fist, would it be worth it, or would it be a waste? I should answer this as people ignored it. I did a monk who started with 18 str (maybe it was even 20?) Dev crit is as good as with a d20 damage club, compare to that(maximum of crits 19-20, with improved critical, no keens... or can you keen gloves these days?) You will have loads of spell resistance though, and you'll do pretty decent damage, and can get decent ac with wisdom bonuses and stuff. though you will have 3 stats you'd want to have high as possible, str, dex and wis. _________________ My favourite sniper loadout: Huntsman, jarate, bushwacka. Team Fortress 2 is FREE TO PLAY! 
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 14:34 PM |
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I think it's worth taking dev.crit if you go the STR Route. What are you going to use all the spare feats for anyway?
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TeroSNS
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 14:37 PM |
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Very_Svensk wrote: I think it's worth taking dev.crit if you go the STR Route. What are you going to use all the spare feats for anyway? epic spell resistance ofc, to bugger off all those spellcasters. _________________ My favourite sniper loadout: Huntsman, jarate, bushwacka. Team Fortress 2 is FREE TO PLAY!
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Dieu_Le_Fera
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 15:05 PM |
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Quick question about the ranger build again... i can go weapon specialization and epic weapon specialization... or I can even out my STR... I think ws and ews are worth more then +1 ab/damage. Thoughts?
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TeroSNS
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 15:28 PM |
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Dieu_Le_Fera wrote: Quick question about the ranger build again... i can go weapon specialization and epic weapon specialization... or I can even out my STR... I think ws and ews are worth more then +1 ab/damage. Thoughts? not sure what your build actually is, but it is +1/+1 to hit/dmg, compared to +6/0 if I understood correctly. _________________ My favourite sniper loadout: Huntsman, jarate, bushwacka. Team Fortress 2 is FREE TO PLAY!
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Chizbo1
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 15:37 PM |
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Chizbo1 wrote: Any suggestions on levels and feats for a rogue/sorc/SD? (arcane trickster type) _________________ -Chizbo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Siggy by Maryn
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Dieu_Le_Fera
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 15:44 PM |
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the build currently is 16 ranger/3 fighter... going 25 ranger/4 fighter/1 rogue str based going for dev crit
feats i have currently:
weapon focus scimtar
power attack
cleave
great cleave
blindfight
knockdown
improved knockdown
improved critical
skill focus spot
feats I need to take:
overwhelming critical
epic focus spot
dev crit
with the ranger levels on epic:
epic weapon focus
bane of enemies
epic prowess
so I can take WS and even out my str or take WS and EWS
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 19:50 PM |
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What subrace again?
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Dieu_Le_Fera
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 19:52 PM |
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 19:56 PM |
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Scimitar wood elf dever
get out
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 19:57 PM |
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Why the hostility. Im sure she has a perfectly fine explanation as to why she's using a scimitar. Do not be so quick to judge, Hear the reason first.
Edit - Yes, It's sooo fun to mock Players. Ha ha.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 19:58 PM |
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Sarcasm flies over your head, every time. Usually with hilarious results.
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Dieu_Le_Fera
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:09 PM |
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Quote: Scimitar wood elf dever
get out I expected this and I shall give you some rp reasoning! Eallylr is a Khalreshaar cultist.. Khalreshaar is the elven aspect of the forest queen Mielikki as she is worshiped on Evermeet. Khalreshaar and Mielikki both have favored weapon scimtar. *An aging Ar-Tel'Quessir *Sun-elf* sits in his study in the great library of everska. His patient hand writing fluently on a parchment*
As my days on Toril draw to an end and my journey west draws ever closer I find the need ever increasing to leave behind the knowledge that I have gained in my life on this plane, This is but of the stranger legends that I have come across and I must urge the reader to keep in mind that much of this is speculation at best.
The Legend of Khalreshaar
During my time in Evermeet I was privileged enough to meet a group of A-Tel'Quessir *half-elves* with a holy symbol that was unfamiliar to me. After speaking with them for some time I learned that the Symbol was of a god named Khalreshaar, I found this odd as I am a learned scholar with much understanding of the Seldarine yet this "Godess" was unfamiliar to me. I was drawn to this and started to gain as much knowledge as I could on the matter and this is what I have learned.
The original legend spoke of a human female druid, one who was charged to ward and tend elven lands and stop the encroachment of civilization. She was slain defending the elven lands from a human warlord who was seeking the secrets of "Tel'Quessir" *elves*. She died in battle standing side by side with "Tel'Quessir" and the Seldarine took note of this. For her actions she was risen to divinity by Corellon himself.
Now, this "cult" has grown in some regard and the story has changed depending on the region. The most notable change is that of the half-elves of Yuirwood who have their own distinction as Cha-Tel'Quessir... it is unknown how they got their own distinction separate from other A-Tel'Quessir *half-elves*. Some say these half-elves as the last descendents of an ancient star-elf kingdom that existed in that wood. Others claim they are descendents of sy-tel'quessir *wild-elves*, but either way Yuirwood is almost entirely populated by half-elves alone.
In Yuirwood they speak of the time when Gods walked the realm as mortals, and of a union between Silvanus and our own Goldenheart Hanali. In that union a daughter was born and she was named Khalreshaar. Now, any who know the human gods of nature know that Silvanus does have two daughters named Mielikki and Eldath. Judging by how Khalreshaar is said to ferry messaged from Rillifane to the rest of the Seldarine leads me to speculate that Mielikki is actually Khalreshaar and somehow the two were mixed together, most likely due to the A-Tel'Quessirs desire to have one of their own in the counted for in the Seldarine.
Elder Vilandiir
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Gondor
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:11 PM |
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I got a monk level 9 human
Str 16
dex 14
wis 16
int 12
cha 10 and con 10
My monk is str/wis based but i'm doubting between going for strength at this moment or wisdom. What's better suited for amia: A wisdom based monk with +4 and +5 ki strike or strength based without the latter?
Cheers
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:31 PM |
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Dieu_Le_Fera wrote: ranger stuff I was perplexed why you didn't have enough feats, until I realised you've taken 3 fighter levels pre-epic. You shouldn't do this, because as you've found out... yeah, it leaves you short in epic. For what it's worth, if you had skipped Skill Focus: Spot and only taken 1 Fighter level pre-epic, you'd have been good - non-epic skill focuses simply aren't worth it on the majority of builds. There's almost always a better choice than taking up a whole feat for the sake of 3 skill points. _________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
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Dieu_Le_Fera
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:35 PM |
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Joined: 29 Jun 2009
Location: Philadelphia
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I was thinking about that... but losing out on kd/ improved kd is harsh for an str ranger *that and having fullplate early makes it nicer to level*... only reason i took skill focus spot is that there wasnt much else to take... i cant take overwhelming crit until 23 str.. wont get that till 20
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:36 PM |
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
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Taking 1 Fighter rather than 3 Fighter would have only cost you a single feat, which would have been Skill Focus: Spot... meaning you'd have had IKD still. Not that it's much use now, but still.  _________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 20:37 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Dieu_Le_Fera wrote: Quote: Scimitar wood elf dever
get out blah I neevr said you couldn't justify it, I just said I don't like it!
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 22:53 PM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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RE; Scimitar Wood Elf Devver.
A Wood Elf should start on 19 Strength after character creation.
At the character creation screen it should look thus if you badly have a hard-on for IKD:
17 Strength (13 points invested) -> 19
10 Dex
9 Con (3 Points invested)
14 Wisdom (6 Points invested)
15 Intelligence (8 points invested) -> 13
8 Charisma
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Ulir
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Posted: Mon, Apr 18 2011, 23:46 PM |
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Chizbo1 wrote: Chizbo1 wrote: Any suggestions on levels and feats for a rogue/sorc/SD? (arcane trickster type) You are thinking of a dex based sorc/rogue/sd? Human or? _________________
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Chizbo1
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Posted: Tue, Apr 19 2011, 10:13 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2009
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yep. Dex and CHA based human rogue/sorc/SD
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Gondor
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Posted: Tue, Apr 19 2011, 10:40 AM |
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Location: Belgium
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Gondor wrote: I got a monk level 9 human
Str 16
dex 14
wis 16
int 12
cha 10 and con 10
My monk is str/wis based but i'm doubting between going for strength at this moment or wisdom. What's better suited for amia: A wisdom based monk with +4 and +5 ki strike or strength based without the latter?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Tue, Apr 19 2011, 11:02 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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The +4/+5 Ki is worthless since you can get gloves that gives you better penetration. (Kinky)
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Insan0
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Posted: Tue, Apr 19 2011, 13:39 PM |
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Chizbo, I'd go 23 sorc/1 rogue/6 SD since it's human. Though, I'm not quite certain what is an Arcane Trickster >.>
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Apr 19 2011, 14:02 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/arcaneTrickster.htmhttp://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070206Personally, I see that are pretty much just a sneaky mage at that point. Though you can call it whatever you want IC. But from the books, Arcane Trickster focuses more on blending magic into his trickery, rather than being a sneaky mage. He monopolizes on the smaller, subtler magics. Quote: Remember, though, that at heart the arcane trickster combines the abilities of two other classes and as such, does not truly excel at either. Arcane tricksters are probably never going to be a group's main wizard and shouldn't try to match their power against enemy spellcasters. Rather, they should concentrate on augmenting their rogue skills through their spells. I'd recommend going much heavier on the rogue. Much, much heavier. In fact, think of Arcane Trickster as a magical rogue. You still want to do all the things a rogue is supposed to(decent sneak attacks, evade, be nimble). You just realize magic that the magic of Bewildering Cloud is a lot more effective than Choking Powder and that Knock saves you valuable time when breaking into things. And Invisibility is your ace in the hole.
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