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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 14:45 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Nope.You're right. Everybody can play an ass.
And you're right on the second statement - Playing a paladin depends on a 'Majority' upon the Deity.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 20:13 PM |
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Very_Svensk wrote: The statement was 'Already' conduced by Dwagin, that it's Magical. And hence no more IRL parallels need to be drawn.
Beating a dead horse. But it's not magic. She is not a DM and does not get to make those rulings. Neither do you.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 20:25 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Dead.Horse.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 20:39 PM |
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No, it is not a dead horse because 1: The assumption dranw was incorrect and 2: You and dwagin attempted to make rulings as if you are DMS. These are important that must be made (and corrected) before any issue can be properly resolved.
Rage is an "Extraordinary" ability and not magical at all.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 21:02 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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He asked where it was said rage functioned in a manner. I posted the description of rage. Never did I say rage -should- function on Amia in one way or another. I don't see how that is connected with making a ruling as if I am a DM.
If it seemed that way then it was unintended.
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Blackdragon12121
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:06 PM |
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Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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As a side note, I'd love to see evasion on rogues moved from level 2 to level 5. People would still skill dump tumble, they'd just have to sacrifice a few levels to get the boon of evasion.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:09 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Then i want UMD to be Cross-Class for all Classes.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:19 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Lovely.
Think Cori wants something to.
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Palemaster
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:20 PM |
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Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Gotta say I agree with Tormak here. Rage is not a magical thing at all, and shouldnt be.
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survivor2009
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:25 PM |
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Joined: 25 May 2009
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wouldn't it be fair if tenser's can drink pots too? it really seems odd.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:27 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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That change has already been made. Check Announcements.
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survivor2009
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 22:29 PM |
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Joined: 25 May 2009
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cool, it was pretty annoying to get hit by poison, i must've drunk a full stack of antidote the other day.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Oct 27 2010, 23:48 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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UMD for all. Woho...
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Dwagin
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 0:06 AM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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You mean there were people without it? /sarcasm off.
_________________ Dwagin [Duh-wa-GIN] N. - 1a. Small and cute thingum, particularly fond of four legged scaled creatures of the metalic and chromatic varieties.
-Extraordinarily ordinary in the mostest of ways.
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Palemaster
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 6:16 AM |
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Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Any update on Barbarian rage? (Its still broken)
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 6:23 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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As soon as Terra fixes it....
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Kjetta
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 7:15 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Location: A Clean, Well-Lighted Place
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These changes seems great. Lovely to see GS take such a beating.
_________________ To err is human; to forgive divine, but VENGEANCE IS MINE!

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Jes
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 7:22 AM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Location: Camriiole
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As someone who has used the new GS as a get-away-free card, I have to say I love it.
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Terra_777
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 13:06 PM |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Sweden
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I'll write up and push out a new patch on either Saturday or sunday. Until then its math-study-time for me. 
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Mr Mago
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 20:12 PM |
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Sweden
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Dwagin wrote: Things discussed in private forums. (Ala Test forums) should be kept there, no matter how you personally feel about it. You go with the team decision, its part of being an adult and responsible part of the group, I'm disappointed Mago. Pfft. Give me a break. This forum, nor this server, has never been adult nor mature in its most minor sense. The DM team flat out failed in its execution of what was originally good intentions. It's a matter of pride and fictional self importance on the internet, which will now, instead of repairing flaws and damaged mechanics, make those even worse. And guess what. You, the players, get to pay for it. So don't waste your time trying to belittle from that high horse of yours.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 20:15 PM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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Yay, drama.
No.
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Tysonm1
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 20:37 PM |
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Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Location: England, Lincolnshire
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I must admit I'm adapting rather well for these changes, although I will be rather let down if/when HIPS changes are made to something like "6 seconds" cooldown. Was a bit curious why my scroll of GS kinda when loopy-loo the other day...
Oh well! Rage, a form of pumping up your blood and losing all natural sense about the world around you (See Minsc for details) which is handy for when ignoring pain and so-so. Think of a rugby team, they warm themselves up by either hitting, lots and lots of thoughts to get them all "rawr", and think of the other team as a bunch of people they really want to smack.
Tenser's Tranformation... yeah, never really understood that spell. Used it when my Wizard was, like... a good spellcaster, didn't know what the hell was with it so I just left it alone to gather dust in me spellbook.
Lovin' them so far. :3
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xXxSuShiKunxXx
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 20:39 PM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Location: H-Town Texas
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Mr Mago wrote: Dwagin wrote: Things discussed in private forums. (Ala Test forums) should be kept there, no matter how you personally feel about it. You go with the team decision, its part of being an adult and responsible part of the group, I'm disappointed Mago. Pfft. Give me a break. This forum, nor this server, has never been adult nor mature in its most minor sense. The DM team flat out failed in its execution of what was originally good intentions. It's a matter of pride and fictional self importance on the internet, which will now, instead of repairing flaws and damaged mechanics, make those even worse. And guess what. You, the players, get to pay for it. So don't waste your time trying to belittle from that high horse of yours. Dude. Amia is a place where the Dev/DM team strive for fun for -all-. Not just those NWN deems fit for stronger chars. You were chosen to be a tester. Moreso even if the playerbase occasionally acts immature, it doesn't mean you are to stoop to said level. I would also say I'm disappointed, But hell, who am I to say. Peace.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 22:14 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Quote: It's a matter of pride and fictional self importance on the internet This is coming from the same raging twinker whose only purpose in lurking the forums these days is to be a troll. Hi Pot. Meet Kettle.
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Silent2001
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 22:23 PM |
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdomshire
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Can't we all just get along? ;D
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 22:25 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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No. Snark you, snotling.
_________________ Dwagin [Duh-wa-GIN] N. - 1a. Small and cute thingum, particularly fond of four legged scaled creatures of the metalic and chromatic varieties.
-Extraordinarily ordinary in the mostest of ways.
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Silent2001
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 22:39 PM |
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdomshire
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All I ever did was love you and you repay me with bitter hatred and resentment.
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
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Mr Mago
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:09 PM |
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Sweden
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BrainSplitter wrote: Quote: It's a matter of pride and fictional self importance on the internet This is coming from the same raging twinker whose only purpose in lurking the forums these days is to be a troll. Hi Pot. Meet Kettle. I am not surprised to see you, Brainsplitter, in particular, to feel targeted by that one line, and respond accordingly just to confirm what I wrote in the first place.
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DustSpray101
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:10 PM |
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Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Location: Night Vale
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ugh... and so the topic degrades... *watches it spiral the drain*
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:19 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Mr Mago wrote: BrainSplitter wrote: Quote: It's a matter of pride and fictional self importance on the internet This is coming from the same raging twinker whose only purpose in lurking the forums these days is to be a troll. Hi Pot. Meet Kettle. I am not surprised to see you, Brainsplitter, in particular, to feel targeted by that one line, and respond accordingly just to confirm what I wrote in the first place. Targetted? Nah. Remember, I'm the displaced one now. I sit here and laugh on my smug little throne with significant pleasure  . Of course, I know you believe I have the power to push those changes through merely because I was the only DM willing to format and post it and take the flak. Don't worry though! I'm sure somewhere in the world there's someone more than happy to coddle your victimized, precious little soul <3.
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Mr Mago
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:23 PM |
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Sweden
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You need not take things so personally, Brainsplitter. If anything, hopefully you've finally reached the same relevation of just how insignificant all of this is.
I know nothing of who said or decided what among the DMs, nor do I really care. I've only stated that the final changes were wrong, and did nothing to fulfil their original purpose.
If any of you see it as of actual importance in this world, then that is your loss, and your loss alone.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:27 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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I'm sure plenty see some world importance in this thread. The same whom were angry and bitter about the changes. Amusingly I can actually see where you come from now when it comes to people going crazy on a game. And, I know it's insignificant... Which is why I can happily use this as a throne to say what I want (within the local rules governing the forum, of course) without alot of hesitation. Especially when I now get to openly laugh at you being up in arms about your precious cheese builds constantly being pwned. I still remember your rage when it was set that Epic Spells require a natural 20 in the requisite stat, though. It's okay, though. We understand. You were always right, in fact, your rightness is upon the very epitome of all that is right in the world. We understand <3. All hail.
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Mr Mago
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:30 PM |
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Sweden
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You're a big man, Brainsplitter.
I envy your stature, on these broad intranetz.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:31 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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I love you too <3.
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Palemaster
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:33 PM |
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Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Terra is make fixes for the rage? 
_________________ The Old Man ~ Tribe of the Damned
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:33 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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She's workin' on it. Patience!
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drahgon
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:34 PM |
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Joined: 30 May 2009 Location: Idaho
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right.... maybe about time to lock this thread as its rather pointless now with so much flaming
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Silent2001
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:35 PM |
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdomshire
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You're a big man, Drahgon.
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:36 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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You're even even bigger man, Silent... Soo big.
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Silent2001
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:39 PM |
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdomshire
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I'm like a tower of llamas
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 28 2010, 23:59 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Sigh.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Sat, Oct 30 2010, 8:18 AM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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This is a tough decision to come to, but after reviewing this thread, Mago has been banned from the forums. Although there was a time when he was a contributing member - and you can see from his original suggestions to help balance the server, that he was an asset even if mechanical and consistency concerns forced developers to go in a slightly different direction - that time appears to have eclipsed, when over the past several months the only posts he has made are inflammatory, demeaning, not at all constructive, and unnecessarily hostile and combative.
This is what I do not want to see our players turn into.
The ban is indefinite, until such a time as Mago decides that he wants to actually be a contributing member of the community rather than a subversive forum presence, one who never even logs any time in the game itself.
Mago can very easily contact many DMs via other means when he corrects his extreme personal behavior in order to discuss the possibility of a return.
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