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billytheid
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 Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 14:28 PM |
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Joined: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Terra Australis
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Is +5/5 a massive waste of Perfect Mythal... not just in PvP but also PvM?
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Gharl Killith: Hobgoblin Headhunter
Olaf Grudgebringer: Bad tempered Dwarvern Weaponsmith
"But thats mainly because I'm an Aussie and what you guys call flaming and rudeness I call a normal conversation."
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 14:38 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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Use the Advice Thread, and yes, I'd say it is unless you have absolutely nothing better to do than wipe your arse with it.
Still, however, I slap +5/5 on all of my characters for the main PvM set (unless it has natural DR). Usually it's attainable a lot cheaper ways than wasting a Perfect.
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billytheid
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Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 14:43 PM |
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Joined: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Terra Australis
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right-o thanks.
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Jess Incognito: F.L.A.G. Inc.
Gharl Killith: Hobgoblin Headhunter
Olaf Grudgebringer: Bad tempered Dwarvern Weaponsmith
"But thats mainly because I'm an Aussie and what you guys call flaming and rudeness I call a normal conversation."
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Palemaster
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Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 19:58 PM |
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Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Nope not a waste, in-fact its awesome sauce. But it depends on your build.
With a rogue~ You dont need it.
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All comments above are strictly the biased opinion of a player.
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corypx
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Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 20:19 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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PVP its kind of pointless unless your a palemaster as its just a heal potion fight till someone Dev crits.
PvE its great if you go walking into a lower area and just want to cut down on some damage and dont need crazy high AC and AB to dodge and hit them.
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Tysonm1
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Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 20:26 PM |
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Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: England, Lincolnshire
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Rogue? Damage Reduction? Sounds like a cheesy build has just been created a few light miles away... Why would you want +5/+5 reduction anyway?  Even with just something like damage reduction against piercing, slicing, you are better off with that sort of gear instead of wasting a perfect mythal on that sort of stuff. But I guess it depends on the "Rogue" you are making, such as *Rogue/*Warrior/*WM but then I'm not a builder... but then I guess you could still go with Uncle-Opustus' idea. ....*Cleric/*Barbarian/*Rogue anyone...? Might make a good RP sandwich somewhere. Quote: PVP its kind of pointless unless your a palemaster as its just a heal potion fight till someone Dev crits. Wisey words of wiseness but then PM Devvies's should be given a good boot up their boney arse since they're fighting with an arm that's nothing but bone! Find me a Demilich that can gnaw off a tree with its own teeth and I'll take that back. *Nodnod* _________________ Quote: The Tysonm1 is a type of main battle tank designed around the old T-64 chassis using an untested armor called Spam.
Spam armor for all intents and purposes is only limited to the size of the internet.
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wereguy2
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 8:55 AM |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Personally, I wouldn't get it, but it really depends. If you can afford it, and do not want anything else, and have an item power to spare, it would be handy, but otherwise, it's pretty inefficient...
A +3 fort would probably work better anyway.
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Strawberry Stallion
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:03 AM |
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Joined: 15 Aug 2010
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Tysonm1 wrote: Rogue? Damage Reduction? Sounds like a cheesy build has just been created a few light miles away... Why would you want +5/+5 reduction anyway? Even with just something like damage reduction against piercing, slicing, you are better off with that sort of gear instead of wasting a perfect mythal on that sort of stuff. But I guess it depends on the "Rogue" you are making, such as *Rogue/*Warrior/*WM but then I'm not a builder... but then I guess you could still go with Uncle-Opustus' idea. ....*Cleric/*Barbarian/*Rogue anyone...? Might make a good RP sandwich somewhere. Quote: PVP its kind of pointless unless your a palemaster as its just a heal potion fight till someone Dev crits. Wisey words of wiseness but then PM Devvies's should be given a good boot up their boney arse since they're fighting with an arm that's nothing but bone! Find me a Demilich that can gnaw off a tree with its own teeth and I'll take that back. *Nodnod* +5/+5 for a perfect? No thanks. ....*Cleric/*Barbarian/*Rogue anyone...? Might make a good RP sandwich somewhere. That sounds incredibly badass. Why hasn't anyone done that before? I need to think on this and come up with something BRILLIANT.
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billytheid
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:35 AM |
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Joined: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Terra Australis
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Thoice wrote: +5/+5 for a perfect? No thanks.
....*Cleric/*Barbarian/*Rogue anyone...? Might make a good RP sandwich somewhere.
That sounds incredibly badass. Why hasn't anyone done that before? I need to think on this and come up with something BRILLIANT. Hobgoblin Shaman
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Jess Incognito: F.L.A.G. Inc.
Gharl Killith: Hobgoblin Headhunter
Olaf Grudgebringer: Bad tempered Dwarvern Weaponsmith
"But thats mainly because I'm an Aussie and what you guys call flaming and rudeness I call a normal conversation."
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 19:42 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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It's worth doing if:
You cannot reliably cast a good source of stone skin (not potions)
You do not have innate DR (barbarian, DwD, epic DR feats)
IF you have those, the 5/+5 will do basically nothing for you.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 19:50 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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I'd like to see the perfect mythal giving out a better damage reduction. 5/+5 isn't that useful.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 20:01 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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It is very useful. The only step up is 10/+5, and that is the realm of Stoneskin and DC requests.
There are other facets of the mythal system that would be more important to look at.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 20:40 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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billytheid wrote: Thoice wrote: +5/+5 for a perfect? No thanks.
....*Cleric/*Barbarian/*Rogue anyone...? Might make a good RP sandwich somewhere.
That sounds incredibly badass. Why hasn't anyone done that before? I need to think on this and come up with something BRILLIANT. Hobgoblin Shaman Has been done. Many different versions of it, but nothing with more Cleric than Barbie. If you want to discuss it, please do it in the Build Advice Thread or then PM. _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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wereguy2
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 5:14 AM |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Wait, does item DR merge into shifter shapes with their own DR?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 5:18 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Yes, but the shapes' DR may be superior.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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wereguy2
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 5:30 AM |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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corypx
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 5:40 AM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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wereguy2 wrote: So it doesn't stack? if your form like Garg it has 15/+1, 10/+2, 5/+3 so no they dont stack, but they will merg to your forms and it will apply the best one. _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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Kudark
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 19:58 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2009
Location: The Dark Side of the Moon
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corypx wrote: wereguy2 wrote: So it doesn't stack? if your form like Garg it has 15/+1, 10/+2, 5/+3 so no they dont stack, but they will merg to your forms and it will apply the best one. the best of the three, or of the six? 15/+1, or 15/+3 _________________ 
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corypx
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Posted: Fri, Oct 22 2010, 20:48 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Kudark wrote: corypx wrote: wereguy2 wrote: So it doesn't stack? if your form like Garg it has 15/+1, 10/+2, 5/+3 so no they dont stack, but they will merg to your forms and it will apply the best one. the best of the three, or of the six? 15/+1, or 15/+3 of the three, 15/+3 was not even a listed effect on the list. if you get attacked by someone with a +0 weapon it will use 15/+1 DR and not the 10/+2 or 5/+3 as they are lesser DR (or thats how its ment to work) if you get attacked by someone with a +2 weapon it will use 5/+3 as the 15/+1 and 10/+2 are bypassed with his weapon _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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