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Swallow the Stars

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 2:02 AM

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Palemaster wrote:

IMO pets are a waste in general.

I lol'd. Read the sidebar.

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TormakSaber

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:09 AM

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The pet is the best part of being a druid. You're practically a tagalong for the real character: The Big Dawg.

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GreatPigeon

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:28 AM

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Can the horse get more dead? Move on now kiddies...

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[GreatPigeon] is better than me.

Uncle-Opustus wrote:

Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:29 AM

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GreatPigeon wrote:

Can the horse get more dead? Move on now kiddies...

It still feels warm. Just to be sure, Shall we take another round?

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:31 AM

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Goblin wrote:

Well.

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Warden

Maybe Con based Barbarian?
The link claims that it has the power to almost shrug off any attacks or .. something..

GreatPigeon

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:34 AM

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Con EDR ranger
Con EDR Barbarian

Consider shifter class/cot yet?

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The Peacock wrote:
[GreatPigeon] is better than me.

Uncle-Opustus wrote:

Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.

Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 6:35 AM

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Interesting concept.

I had the delightful pleasure to hunt with Uberuce's little Dwarven Defender.
I was specifically shocked, and impressed, by his choice of tactic.

A - Forsake all AC
B - Pump all in DR/Reduction
C - Drink Flame Shield Potions.

Equals = Shitload of Space in his gear. And mobs killing themselves as they hit him.

Question
Can this be done on a barbarian?
For as i understood, You need like 30/- DR reduction

TormakSaber

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 7:53 AM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

Goblin wrote:

Well.

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Warden

Maybe Con based Barbarian?
The link claims that it has the power to almost shrug off any attacks or .. something..

Wardens are 4e. They're basically just a DwD.

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Goblin

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 9:01 AM

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TormakSaber wrote:

Wardens are 4e. They're basically just a DwD.

It's all true. But I was asking to emulate the class in Amia's setting. I've seen enough anyway to form an opinion, thanks alot those who answered!

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 11:32 AM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

I want to know if this is possible,"Without" DwarvenDefender class!

-Cloak-and-Dagger-

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 11:43 AM

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The Max DR you can get without DwD is 16/-. Just make a Barbarian and take Epic DR3.

Alternatively, there's the Cory route. Undead shape has no Wisdom requirement so you can have a high CON Epic DR shifter turning into the Skeleton pretty easily.

Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 12:27 PM

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Joined: 04 Oct 2010

Just to clerify.. yes animal companions are boosted on this server.. Infact all summons are alot stronger than defalut NWN.

Regardless.. They are useless at epic levels in any sort of PVP unless they are pvping someone without any AC. With the 15/15 You get a self-buffed haste rager with decent AB.

Undispellable haste > Animal companion.

Any day of the week.

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 12:48 PM

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-Cloak-and-Dagger-

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 12:52 PM

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No, the Animal Companion that has an attack bonus in excess of 50 and is also permenantly hasted due to the steady supply of Iceberries it eats (Branch of Giving gives pets +1d10 damage & haste for 1 turn/level) is incredibly powerful. Then there is also the option of marrying to an additional summon, such as the Dragon Knight...and theres the Druid's spellcasting, Earthquake and the like.....and perhaps even Dragonshape. With 15 Druid levels you lose out on all the good stuff and your buffs are crap. 60 Round Extended Aura of Vitality > Rage.

Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 13:01 PM

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MoshingChris wrote:

TormakSaber wrote:

Honorable mention goes to the Bard/AA because it partybuffs better than the cleric.

And a Wizard is only good if its got enough Wizard levels. 21 isn't enough.

The top five AA builds I've played, played with or played against are:

**28 Cleric 1 Bard 1 AA Zen Archering Caster Cleric.
**21 Cleric 2 Bard 7 AA Dex/Cha Cleric (Ridiculous AC aswell as the mentioned damage and AB)
10(9)Monk 1(2)Wizard 19 AA
18 AA 10 Fighter 2 Bard
17 Rogue 2 Bard 11 AA

I don't rate the Bard/AA at all since running in and cursing and running back out to shoot is counter-intuitive, thus doesn't even rate an honorable mention in my book.

Toying with some calculations of damage on that one. Just experimenting.

For build **
In terms of damage, It has;

+5 Divine Favour
+2Battletide
+5Mighty
+1AA Arrow
+1d8
+(Random Arrows you use)

= 14-22Less that I thought.

Ranged
VS
Ranged

For build **
In terms of damage, It has;
+5Divine favour
+2Battletide
+4AA arrows
+1d8
+5 Mighty
+8-9 Divine Might
+(Random Arrows you use)

= 25-33 Damage. Wow?

Seriously. It doesn't give more?
But i assume it's the Goddamn freaking AB that pays off, since you hit with all 5 attacks.

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Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 13:06 PM

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Joined: 04 Oct 2010

In order to take "full" advantage you could just make a pure druid. But that as not the point far as I understood.

Regardless.. The animal companion may be great for pvm but thats about it. In such a high magic server with the combination of items and self-buffs an epic PC will 9 out of 10 times be far stronger.

I would go as far to say that on my main I could stand infront of every animal companion on the server each one fully buffed, and not have a worry. Where as a barbarian druid hybrid could be made quite troublesome. Taking into count epic terrifying rage, its self haste, decent AB (Possibly supplimented by true strike potions) and average epic gear.

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Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 13:57 PM

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Yeah five attacks/round with 33 damage adds up pretty quick! Espeically if they toss in some called shots and the target they are hitting slows to a stop haha

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 14:02 PM

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Palemaster wrote:

Yeah five attacks/round with 33 damage adds up pretty quick! Espeically if they toss in some called shots and the target they are hitting slows to a stop haha

The issue with these caster clerics is all the feats you want to take.

Sure, Rapid shot exists on a cloak, But the rest are sort of essential.

Base Race - Elf

Equals = 7 Feats Pre-Epic

#1Extend
#2Maximize
#3Still spell
#4SpellFocus
#5Greater spell Focus
#6PointBlank Shot
#7Wep.Focus Longbow
Then we want to fit both Rapid shot and Called shot.

Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 14:47 PM

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I am uncertain as to why you woudl want still spell on a cleric, also I would be willing to give up maximize.

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 14:55 PM

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Palemaster wrote:

I am uncertain as to why you woudl want still spell on a cleric, also I would be willing to give up maximize.

Wow, You're really new

maximize - There's a limit of how much Stats and skills you can put on your gear. Maximize gets you far, so you can use the limit to other things.

Still spell
Ever had 14 Casts of Earthquake? Nothing survives that. It's for pure orgasm only.

Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 15:59 PM

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Afraid I dont follow your logic. I AM new to the server but not new to NWN.

With only 21 caster levels alot of SR will beat you. You want an archer? Put the feats to make it a decent archer i'd say.

Burning a feat to be able to cast your level 9 spells as earthquakes is "alright" I guess.. if you're adverse to mixing in an SOV. SoV + Greater dispell + Earthquake seems like a great combo to me.
Still not something I would give up

As for maximized. With the ammount of potions available and mid/low level casting slots.. Hardly a concern to get a max on the first roll.

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Jyro X

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:18 PM

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Ok I'm struggling with a build concept. I'm making a Sun Elf paladin and I'm not sure how I want to do his build. This is what I started with:

Paladin (27), Monk (1), Fighter (2).

This is what I'm looking at:

Paladin (19), Monk (1), CoT (10) or
Paladin (20), Monk (1), CoT (9)

Any feedback? I'm trying to determine if that 10th level of CoT is worth throwing away a level 4 spell slot over.

Stats:
STR: 18 (26)
INT: 14
WIS: 14
CHA: 12 (14)

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:23 PM

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If your going a devver you want the most epic feats to increase your STR for dev DC so yes it is.

Keep in mind there are ways of adding bonus lvl 4 spell slots.

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hendrack

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:24 PM

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You want maximised spells to buff your party and you can't do that with potions. Parties don't benefit from clerics only buffing themselves.

Quote:

Where as a barbarian druid hybrid could be made quite troublesome

Nope. One dispel scroll and your buffs are gone. You may be still hasted, but you can't hit a barndoor with the druids AB. Also most players on the server know how to deal with true strike potions. They run in circles while you try to catch them and then they laugh you in the face and kill you.

Also 15 druid is a waste in itself because your animal will be sucky in PvM. That 15/15 build is a waste of time and not competitive, but its your time so go for it if you want.

Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:29 PM

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Jyro X wrote:

Well, Palemaster's question is valid. Are you intending on going the DevCrit route, or Just STR Route?(GO dev go dev go dev go dev go dev!)

Good feats to have are;
#1Wep Focus
#2Imp.Crit
#3blind fight
#4extend spell
#5Power attack
#6Divine might
#7Divine shiled

For the Dev.Route.
#8 Cleave
#9 Great Cleave

This equals = That you need to, Maybe, take some levels of CoT in Pre-Epic.

Regarding 10Cot, or 9 Cot.
The Key-Levels of Cot are 6 and 10.

I'd reccomend taking away either 1 Paladin level, Or Reducing the amount of Cot levels to 6; And balance it out with more paladin levels.

End Result;
23Paladin/1Monk/6CoT

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Standing at the forefront of the battle against chaos and evil in the world, the epic paladin shines as a beacon of hope to all who fight the good fight.

Hit die: d10

Skill points: 2 + int modifier

Bonus feats: The epic paladin gains a bonus feat every three levels after 20th. In other words, at levels 23, 26, 29, 32, 35, and 38.

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Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:31 PM

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Anything with terrifying rage is competative in pvp..

Afraid I dont see any better way to add barbian to the druid class than 15/15

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hendrack

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:34 PM

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Palemaster wrote:

Anything with terrifying rage is competative in pvp..

Afraid I dont see any better way to add barbian to the druid class than 15/15

Easily countered with mindblank potions. Druid doesn't really mix well with a melee class, unfortunately. Does your concept require that particular mix?

Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:37 PM

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Could go Ranger 26/Barb1/Rogue 3, If you're desperate about the barbarian levels.

Just RP him going bezerk(Without the Stats to back the claim up) as you click 'Rage'

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Palemaster

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:38 PM

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No I was offering an option for another players concept a few posts back.

As for mindblank.. You'll be in a corner feared if you rely on that to save you from terrifying rage against anyone that comes prepared

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 16:59 PM

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Well, Yeah.

But It's the only thing you can do, Really.
Vs
80Intimidate Terrrrror raging barbarian.

Uncle-Opustus

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 17:47 PM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

I want to know if this is possible,"Without" DwarvenDefender class!

Not possible. However, any class is possible to go EDR, but you'll need AC with that.

EDIT: Also, Svensk, you phale so go to your room and cut your wrists open. Maximise beats Still on a Cleric any day.

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 17:59 PM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

Still stuck on this one.
Obviously, Rapid shot will be taken on a Cloak; And used in PvE only. (I Don't see myself running about, Clicking Rapid shot On/off nohstop during Player hunting)

Worth taking Called Shot as an Epic Feat?
Opinions?

Jyro X

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 18:47 PM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

Jyro X wrote:

Definitely planning on going the dev crit route. Kind of pointless not to when I'm going for high strength anyways.

Now, bare in mind I also have to use two epic feats to boost CHA up to 14. That's mostly because I ran out of epic feats to take when I have all my feats for CoT in epic levels.

Pre-epic, I have everything but Blind Fight and Extend Spell. I'll have to take a look at the spreadsheet again when I get home to see what I have substituting for them. I'm liking that 23 P/1 M/6 CoT variation though.

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 18:48 PM

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...You what?

Just briefly, Tell me how the Starting Ability stats look like?

Jyro X

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 18:49 PM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

...You what?

Just briefly, Tell me how the Starting Ability stats look like?

Quote:

Stats:
STR: 18 (26)
INT: 14
WIS: 14
CHA: 12 (14)

That's after the Sun Elf subrace has been added. I had to throw two points into CON to keep myself from getting gimped in that department. Keep in mind this isn't meant to be a powerbuild by any means. I simply want to get the most out of the start of it that I can.

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:09 PM

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To Jyro X; With Sincere Regards from Very_Svensk

You liked the 23/6/1; So this is what i came up with.

Paladin
Champion Of Torm(CoT)
Monk

(lvl)1 Paladin Feat; Wep Focus
(lvl)2 Paladin
(lvl)3 Paladin Feat; Power attack
(lvl)4 Paladin Ability Bonus
(lvl)5 Paladin
(lvl)6 Paladin Feat; Divine Shield
(lvl)7 Paladin
(lvl)8 Paladin Ability Bonus
(lvl)9 Paladin Feat; Divine Might
(lvl)10 Paladin
(lvl)11 Paladin
(lvl)12 Paladin Ability Bonus + Feat; Imp.Crit
(lvl)13 Paladin
(lvl)14 Paladin
(lvl)15 Paladin Feat; Extend spell
(lvl)16 Paladin Ability Bonus
(lvl)17 Champion Of Torm(CoT)
(lvl)18 Champion Of Torm(CoT) Feat; Cleave + Extra Feat; Blind fight
(lvl)19 Champion Of Torm(CoT)
(lvl)20 Champion Of Torm(CoT) Ability Bonus + Extra Feat; Great Cleave
(lvl)21 Paladin Feat; Great STR I
(lvl)22 Paladin
(lvl)23 Paladin
(lvl)24 Paladin Ability Bonus Feat; Epic.Wep.Focus
(lvl)25 Paladin
(lvl)26 Paladin
(lvl)27 Paladin Feat; Overwhelming Critical + Extra Feat; Devastating Critical
(lvl)28 Champion Of Torm(CoT) Ability Bonus
(lvl)29 Monk
(lvl)30 Champion Of Torm(CoT) Feat; Great Charisma 1 + Extra Feat; Great Charisma 2

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Uncle-Opustus

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:09 PM

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Just start with STR 17 and CHA 14 and take two Great Strength feats instead of two times Great Charisma and one Great Strength.

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:10 PM

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Uncle-Opustus wrote:

Just start with STR 17 and CHA 14 and take two Great Strength feats instead of two times Great Charisma and one Great Strength.

Your turn to take out the butterfly and cut your wrists! He's a Sun-Elf!

Shaaaaaame on yooouuuuu!

Glyph

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:22 PM

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on the topic of druids 'pets' I agree, if you went 30 and had a fey even it would gank. and be good at opening doors.

Quote:

The summoned creature gains the following benefits:

• Armor Class +1 / 2 CL
• Claw Enhancement +1 / 5 CL
• Regeneration +1 / 5 CL
• Attack Bonus +2 / 5 CL
• Universal Saving Throw Bonus +1 / 5 CL

• Resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage
• 1st – 10thCL: 5/-
• 11th – 20th CL: 10/-
• 21st – 30th CL: 15/-

so +6 saves max, +6 enhance, +12 ab, 5 regen, etc...of course that would be utterly maxed with a pure druid, but the point is valid.

it would also (i think) raise your caster level hit dc the same as any other mage class, as for wardens, I would have thought druid was quite important to that, though a more melee build could also work.

and the paladin build I be seeing, I would suggest (with testing) 3 monk 6 cot 21 paladin maybe, gains you monk speed, +2 to mind saves, and deflect arrows, I would guess your planing on taking the monk at level 1 for cleave etc...its a shame divine wrath doesn't increase again until COT 10 but speed may balance it out a bit if you end up not getting there, and obviously the bonus of monk boots. or even 8 Cot 19 paladin, bonus feat and sacred defence +1 at the loss of one spell slot.

theres alot of variations you could go with, and I can't get the build calculator working to be able to check that one. (has no excel.)

ed: fully full blown ninja'd.....take monk level one for cleave free >_> (ed: providing it doesn't screw with anything else.)

ed2: *palmface* I mean druid companion animals...my druid is cross classed wizard, no fey for yous.

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:27 PM

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Quote:

Deflect Arrows
Type of feat: general
Prerequisite: dexterity 13+, improved unarmed strike

Specifics: The character can attempt to deflect one incoming missile attack per round. This is treated as a reflex save made against DC 20.

Use: Automatic if not caught flat-footed. Monks receive this feat for free at level 2.
edit Notes

* Use of this feat requires at least one hand free. Using a two-handed weapon, such as a bow, will prevent this.
* This feat does not work with a sling equipped.
* Arcane archers, assassins, and blackguards are unable to select this feat.

Glyph. Are you suggesting Jyro's char is to run around with 'Only' a sword, And no shield?

And No. 10% More Move speed does not weigh up More BAB; Longer lasting spells and one epic feat

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Uncle-Opustus

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:28 PM

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Very_Svensk wrote:

Uncle-Opustus wrote:

Just start with STR 17 and CHA 14 and take two Great Strength feats instead of two times Great Charisma and one Great Strength.

Your turn to take out the butterfly and cut your wrists! He's a Sun-Elf!

Shaaaaaame on yooouuuuu!

And? Sun Elf gets +2 INT, -2 CON. Can't see what that has to do with going STR 17 and CHA 14 over STR 18 and CHA 12 and then stupidly wasting three epic feats when you could waste only two?

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Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:29 PM

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NO, you don't get it. He's already made the char; And we're trying to salvage it.

He took down CON to 6.
Had 12 INT
And had 3 Points left to store in STR 18

Sun elf boosted INT to14.

Quote:

STR 18
DEX 10(8)
CON 8 (6)
WIS 14
INT 12(14)
CHA 12

Uncle-Opustus

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:34 PM

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No, I still don't get it. Rebuild, yo.

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hendrack

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:35 PM

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6 CON on a melee character? Have fun RPing that.

Glyph

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:36 PM

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I guess I failed again, but I am wondering why the 1 monk?

and no unless you have a greatsword focus dev crit/ scythes -_- I would not suggest running about with no shield. and yea con 6 is rather loow, buff with items asap to survive imo.

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Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:37 PM

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Glyph wrote:

I guess I failed again, but I am wondering why the 1 monk?

Because he wanted Monk

-Cloak-and-Dagger-

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:38 PM

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1 Monk = Tumble & Evasion.

I like 23Paladin/6 Monk/1Other more, tho.

Mobile_Svensk

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:42 PM

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Rogue is a nice Addition, But it requires you have the INT to pay for it.
Yet some players feel that sneaks doesn't suite the paladin.

Glyph

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:46 PM

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k that makes sense.

one more thing, i'm not seeing exotic weapons on the list, there are a few non exotic weapons that are good for critical damage, but they lack regular output comparing.

ehm...http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Threat_range >_> and I shall say nothing more on the subject.

ninja again lol, correct me if i'm wrong cause this comes from an ingame chat, but bards recieve sneaks also? 1 bard could work. then again monk gear is nice. as is evasion.

-Cloak-and-Dagger-

Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 19:50 PM

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1Other can be Rogue for UMD.
It can be Fighter or Ranger for free feat.
Or perhaps even Cleric for Domain powers, eg Battle Mastery
Or even Sorceror or Wizard for a familiar (Which can be cool) and access to scrolls :idea:

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The Official Build and Build Advice Topic: Mk. IV

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