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IronAngel
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Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2010, 15:11 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Well, that falls under what I said above. The "balance" is an IC concept, an IC belief that some (many?) people and gods share. It doesn't necessarily have any inherent meaning.
It's quite easy to see why people and gods would think it's unnatural that creatures of other planes should walk their (natural) home plane.
_________________ On Joon, Kjetta wrote: The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
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HellScourge
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Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2010, 18:31 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Location: GMT+1
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You heard Tormie, no more raiding the Abyss! 
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...] 
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Massasoit
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Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2010, 22:50 PM |
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Joined: 13 May 2005 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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I do not like the idea of forced permadeth, epically because Amia has been toting the line of a lower-end PvP server. Perhaps making a few small steps towards a somewhat more harsh penalty for PvP death may be good, however.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2010, 23:19 PM |
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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Massasoit wrote: I do not like the idea of forced permadeth, epically because Amia has been toting the line of a lower-end PvP server. Perhaps making a few small steps towards a somewhat more harsh penalty for PvP death may be good, however.
Wrong thread? 
_________________ BlackDahlya
Once Upon A Time Played Adr'ael Ken'rahel, Auron Teken’ath, Aurora Mesodias, 'Daniel' Daoskinaxarijikkym, Eilin'ira, Helena Rios, Layla Faircurrent, May'Une Do'Ndar, Mellinda Tellus, Michael of Cliffside, Rizzen of Twilight, Valkirya d'Claddath
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2010, 0:10 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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HellScourge wrote: You heard Tormie, no more raiding the Abyss! 
Or more raiding the Abyss. Every demon that isn't an ally is an enemy to be crushed, to gain your 'patron' more power and prestige, and you more xp and gp.
_________________ 2009's Second Most Overall Contributing Player
يمكنني استخدام مترجم جوجل
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2010, 2:29 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Yurell wrote: HellScourge wrote: You heard Tormie, no more raiding the Abyss!  Or more raiding the Abyss. Every demon that isn't an ally is an enemy to be crushed, to gain your 'patron' more power and prestige, and you more xp and gp.
Agents of Chaos for the win.
_________________ I play: Gage le Gris Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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762
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Posted: Wed, Jun 30 2010, 4:46 AM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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Bumping for someone who asked me about it.
_________________ Araxus Balmor Gurth Balmor (retired)
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762
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 2:00 AM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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Bumping for someone else now.
_________________ Araxus Balmor Gurth Balmor (retired)
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 9:19 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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MoshingChris wrote: [...]and maybe but not 100 percent Urogalan and Vergadain
Vergadain is an interesting one since negotiation is the fortay of his worshippers, that he often aligns himself with Abbathor, but doesn't favor evil thieves. Nuh. A BG of Vergadain would never work. Vergadain is still very tied to the Dwarven society and Mordinsamman. Vergadain at least wouldn't be granting powers to any evil dwarf; the rest of the Mordinsamman would end up kicking him in the head. However, Abbathor is a very ebul bastard. I can imagine a dwarf worshipping Vergadain with a twisted sense of moral, when he'd actually be accomplishing the extortionate goals of Abbathor (not realising it, of course). Vergadain is the healthy Dwarven deity of glitter much like Waukeen, wherein Abbathor is the one doing anything to gratify his averice.
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Khaelesvhea
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Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 9:14 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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Sorry for casting raise dead on this thread, but I'm just wondering on a few points (mainly on Shevarash):
1. Should/are blackguards of Shevarash considered a part of the clergy?
2. Would Shevarash have granted the abilities to summon the dead/planar creatures for the purpose of killing a drow(a good-aligned one at that?)
3. Being a blackguard doesn't mean you HAVE to associate with demons/devils /summon the dead /wanting to kill everyone - but rather you could be reflecting on the extreme darker side of your deity's dogma right?
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Zinovy
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Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 15:44 PM |
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Quote: 3. Being a blackguard doesn't mean you HAVE to associate with demons/devils /summon the dead /wanting to kill everyone - but rather you could be reflecting on the extreme darker side of your deity's dogma right? You can be an evil cleric, fighter, rogue, or almost any class. Blackguard is someone who (whatever base class he started in) acted so vile that an outsider decided he is worth investing in to spread that brand of evil around more.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Tue, Sep 28 2010, 19:48 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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Bump.
Would Hoar have devils to work as his "dealers"? Would a BG of Hoar mainly focus on the evil aspect of Hoar's portfolio or anything at all whenever possible?
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Sep 28 2010, 21:12 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Hoar works both ends of the spectrum, something that annoys both Bane and Tyr, the two deities who constantly court his alliances, and the two deities he tends to scorn to work for his own ends. He has devil and celestial servants. A BG of Hoar probably focuses more on the "Vengeance" bit to an extreme, yeah.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Wed, Sep 29 2010, 18:11 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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Would it make sense if the Hoarite BG weren't actually evil as the patron is not?
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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762
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Posted: Wed, Sep 29 2010, 21:14 PM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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No. You are still gleaning dark powers from one of Hoar's fiendish servants.
_________________ Araxus Balmor Gurth Balmor (retired)
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Sep 30 2010, 5:18 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Blackguards are evil. No way around that, sorry. That's kind of the point of the Blackguard.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Thu, Sep 30 2010, 8:51 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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All right, thanks. The BG guide should be also added somewhere in the Lore section.
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Sep 30 2010, 17:43 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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I'd rather not get into the arguments of wholesale copy pasting something that was first posted on the World Serpent Inn's forums.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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My Sovereign
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 1:04 AM |
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Joined: 19 Sep 2010
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The BG I play, Sovereign.....uh...sentence
Is it alright if a BG of Malar is unsure of his actions sometimes, but does it because its "In his blood" or because he fears his fathers (A demon) Retribution?
_________________ - "The fiend is less hideous in his own shape....then when he rages in the breast of man"
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 6:08 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Hesitance is Death and the Hunter of Hunters curries not favor from those who seek to emulate His image. Only the strong survive, those who have no compunctions, no morals, only the blood of the hunt upon their fingers. Let the Elderly hesitate, but murder them not. Let the young hesitate, but murder them not. To all others who hesitate, that is your time to strike for the jugular, and spill their lifeblood upon the grass.
n.b. if your character's father is a demon, you are playing an unapproved half demon and need to stop playing him immediately and submit a request, or unconditionally, immediately retcon your character's life history.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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762
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 6:29 AM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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It was never posted on WSI's forums, to my knowledge. And its validity would be no less either way.
Everything in the guide was researched from source materials. There is nothing campaign specific about it.
_________________ Araxus Balmor Gurth Balmor (retired)
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 9:01 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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When you said "other server", I assumed it was osted there and there have been issues previous, so I thought it best to skirt the entire issue.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 13:20 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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Well, I don't really care whether it's this one or some other, either way there should be some more specific information, easily accessible, on how the classes work RP-wise. Or is there already?
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Swallow the Stars
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Posted: Fri, Oct 01 2010, 16:18 PM |
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Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Location: Southeast (USA)
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Specifically, I imagine a Gray Guard of Hoar being a bit more organic than a Blackguard. Maybe that's just me.
_________________ Espiel Callahan
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Oct 02 2010, 4:47 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Gray Guard also requires a strenuous DM request so we can ensure that you're not simply abusing the class like so many people would use it for.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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