|
|
|
jafman30
|
 Posted: Sat, Aug 14 2010, 18:55 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: The Land of Confusion.
|
|
How much UMD is enough for most things?
_________________
--MAINS--
Xanon .: Talonite!
Xiladei .: Amethyst Dragon Disciple.
Ryth .: Returning Elven Archer. Missing for some time.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Sat, Aug 14 2010, 23:22 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
25 or 30.
25 lets you use any alignment (I beleive)
30 lets you use other racial things with different alignment.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
QPR
|
Posted: Sat, Aug 14 2010, 23:35 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Location: Norway
|
|
On pure Bard; worth using a two hander, or stick with shield + longsword? The Song AC should make up for loss of shield, but then his AC might be only mediocre again?
_________________
"Edwin do this, Edwin do that. Somebody get this jerk a banana!" - Edwin, BG II
Valygar 'Stonesnake' Stark -Human Ranger
Garret Smith - Archer and peddler of deity-statuettes
Dáin Saltbeard - Dwarven sailor and fencer. No, I'm not joking.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Sat, Aug 14 2010, 23:41 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
Bobo has a pure bard that does just fine, I think.
I still like sword and board myself. 15-20 percent less damage maximum for losing the 6-7 ac..... nope not for me.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 8:31 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
|
A character in non-uberloot/DC fullplate+tower stand at 51AC, which a Bard 30 will raise to 63. Lose the tower shield and those numbers go to 44 and 56, which is fine for party work and actually okay for bosses because it's economically viable to chug Heal potions there.
There's a better synergy to dualwielding, though:
A) You need 15DEX which makes it very easy to wear zero-fail leathers or chain, and pretty easy to wear cloth and spare you the need to worry about arcane failure.
2) You need a feat to wear heavy armour as a pure Bard anyway, so it really only costs you two more.
D) Between 1d8-1d12 Flame Weapon, +3 Bardblunt, +2 Warcry, and +5 Enhancement, you're on ~14.5 damage per hit regardless of weapon. Small weapons give 1d6+1d6 most of the time for ~7, while a greatsword is the best at 2d6+2d4 for ~12. Then you get your STRmod, which is going to be between +10 and +14, so the twohander gets +15 to +21, a difference of 5-7, so overall you're on 31.5 versus 41.5 going up to 35.5 vs 48.5. The dualwield flavour gets 6 hasted attacks per round, the twohander gets 4. 189 vs 166 at 30STR, and 213 vs 194 at 38STR. Really, you're best comparing the 30STR for dualwield to the 38 for twohander because that's what the stats would likely be for each, but the difference is piddling, and the advantages to Barding in light armour over heavy, let alone the ease with which you can pop to sword'n'board as a duelwielder, seal the issue, says I.
I had a look at it a second ago and it's viable, although painfully enough it needs two pre-epic feat to be taken in epic.
Base human
STR 14 (all later boosts here, to 18)
DEX 14 (goes to 15 at level 4)
CON 14
INT 14
WIS 8
CHA 14 (raise at 8 and 12, to 16)
1 Extend Spell*
1 Curse Song
3 Martial weapons Prof
6 Ambidexterity
9 Two Weapon Fighting
12 Weapon Focus
15 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
18 Knockdown*
*Might need to swap these around, I forget if you can take Extend on Bard1.
21 Armourskin
24 Epic Weapon Focus
27 Blindfight
30 Epic Fort
Bard bonuses:
23 Lasting Winspiration
26 Epic Skill Perform
29 Maximise Spell
You could go daggers(some of them are really rather good and the Wonderforged are a whopping 2d6)and save yourself the Martial Prof and get Improved Crits;, but I would take Martial for shortswords, because there's 1d6 Sneak attack ones, a nasty anti-undead one and the Elven Shocking which gets 1d6 Electric and +2 Slash.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Glyph
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 9:24 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
|
|
regarding UMD....no.
it scales with the cost of the item your trying to use. oocly restricted items kind of kill the need for epic skill focus though. I think, haven't got that far yet.
|
|
|
|
|
|
DerkDerkistan
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 9:27 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Location: Earth
|
|
No, the first guy is right. You don't need gobs of UMD to use all the gear. And someone should -never- need Epic Skill Focus in UMD to use things.
_________________
Remember when I knew a boxer, baby
|
|
|
|
|
|
Glyph
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 9:31 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
|
|
...scales with cost...
*stops posting on the forums...*
|
|
|
|
|
|
DerkDerkistan
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 9:34 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Location: Earth
|
|
Yes, it does scale with the cost. But that cost never gets so exorbitant where you need so much UMD.
_________________
Remember when I knew a boxer, baby
|
|
|
|
|
|
BeautifulLie
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 14:29 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 May 2007
|
|
Builders: How do you private test builds? Asking so I can try and make something on my own before bringing it here.
Side Note: Desiring an Arcane Archer build should I attempt searching through the tons of times it's mentioned in the forums? XD
_________________
Must I at length the Sword of Justice draw?
Oh curst Effects of necessary Law!
How ill my Fear they by my Mercy scan,
Beware the Fury of a Patient Man
-John Dryden, 1681
|
|
|
|
|
|
Murex
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 14:54 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
|
|
Okay, I never played a PM, so tell me if there is anything I messed up on with this build-
Abraxis-
Human
Chaotic Evil
STR: 18
INT: 14
DEX: 13
5 Wizard
1 Fighter
24 Pale Master
1. (W) +2 Dodge, Mobility [STR 18]
2. (W)
3. (W) +1 Expertise
4. (W) [STR 19]
5. (W)
6. (F) +1 Power Attack
7. (PM)
8. (PM) [STR 20]
9. (PM) +1 Cleave
10. (PM)
11. (PM)
12. (PM) +1 Great Cleave [STR 21]
13. (PM)
14. (PM)
15. (PM) +1 Improved Critical
16. (PM) [STR 22]
17. (PM)
18. (PM) +1 Weapon Focus (longsword)
19. (PM)
20. (PM) [STR 23]
21. (PM) +1 Armor Skin
22. (PM)
23. (PM)
24. (PM) +1 Overwhelming Critical, [STR 24]
25. (PM)
26. (PM)
27. (PM) +1 (?) [STR 25]
28. (PM) [STR 26]
29. (PM)
30. (PM) +1 Dev Crit
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uncle-Opustus
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 14:59 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
|
|
Murex: Yes, you can only take 20 PM levels.
Beautiful Lie: Some make their own areas with critters similar or at least almost similar to the Amian database. Also PvP aspects of the build can be tested there, as you can have someone to join you there. If you mean general build planning; nwnwiki and maths, should do.
Regarding the AA build it really depends on what sorta character you're looking for.
_________________  UCE THIS, YOU COW.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Murex
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:21 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
|
Uncle-Opustus wrote: Murex: Yes, you can only take 20 PM levels. Wha???   
|
|
|
|
|
|
Herr Delta Houdini
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:28 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: England
|
|
Yeah, 'cause anything over 10 levels for a Prestige class is Epic, so you can only take levels 11+ in Epic. So ten levels pre-epic and ten epic.
_________________
Ael'thil Rilyn'tlithar
Previously known as: Anubis
|
|
|
|
|
|
Murex
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:36 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
|
|
Since this is a bit confusing for me, what recomendations are there for a Wiz/Fighter/PM Build? I want tons of AC and Dev Crit for this build if possible. Spells aren't needed as I'm going for heavy armor and tower shield.
I suppose 5 Wiz, 5 Fighter, 20 PM is the only good option (?)
Edit: for my retardedness.
Last edited by Murex on Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:38 PM, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:37 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
BeautifulLie wrote: Builders: How do you private test builds? Asking so I can try and make something on my own before bringing it here.
Side Note: Desiring an Arcane Archer build should I attempt searching through the tons of times it's mentioned in the forums? XD Page 8 has some discussion on AA builds. There's really only four: Sneakwhore+AA9, Bufferclass+AA9, Zen-archer Monk/mage/AA, and the 'pure' breed of Ftr/Bard/AA19. The best of the lot are probably the Bufferclass variants, since even if they never touched a bow, they'd still be buffertanks with ~20 levels.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 15:41 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
Murex wrote: Since this is a bit confusing for me, what recomendations are there for a Wiz/Fighter/PM Build? Don't do it, because it's crap from both powergaming and RP's point of view.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Murex
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 16:10 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
|
Uberuce wrote: Murex wrote: Since this is a bit confusing for me, what recomendations are there for a Wiz/Fighter/PM Build? Don't do it, because it's crap from both powergaming and RP's point of view. 1. I assume this is just your opinion. 2. How is this harder to rp than anything else? It's not.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uncle-Opustus
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 16:18 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
|
|
Crap doesn't mean hard and that version really is crap.
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 17:54 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
Uberuce wrote: Murex wrote: Since this is a bit confusing for me, what recomendations are there for a Wiz/Fighter/PM Build? Don't do it, because it's crap from both powergaming and RP's point of view. I take offense, good Moo: Reinard was a wizard/fighter/palemaster. Worthless crap powergaming? Yups. Roleplay? Well, I won't too my horn but I hope not.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
Glyph
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 19:46 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
|
Quote: Builders: How do you private test builds? Asking so I can try and make something on my own before bringing it here. nwn vault, pretty good character maker, and read the <-- sidebar to figure out what spells/feats/stuff is going to be different. like SD is not hips at level 1 for example, so testing -will not- be the same as amia. also I suggest use the mythal part of the sidebar and try to stick by that for items, and try to kill either the mithril golem or the prismatic dragon in the arena > = ) also the arena on that mod has classbuilds to fight, so you can spawn a party and see if you can beat them solo. enemy levels are in difficulty class rankings. some are more than 30, but quick level to 30 and play until it seams good enough =)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 21:58 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
Murex wrote: 1. I assume this is just your opinion. The NWN engine says so too. Reinhard didn't last very long as a melee PM, though, if I recall. Went to being a summoner with heavy armour+tower, which is still a Wiz/PM with a Fighter level, but not a fighter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Silent2001
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 22:04 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Location: United Kingdomshire
|
|
How many points do you need in UMD for access to most items, not counting charisma?
_________________  <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
|
|
|
|
|
|
DoomKnight
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 22:11 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
|
|
Yeah, because not only being able to dish out dev crits AND be immune to them (plus immunity to stun/hold/para, extra HP, extra AC, etc) really sucks? Huh? *puts on the 'I'm with Tormak' shirt*
EDIT: In response to Silent2001's question: I think you only need 20 points to be able to use everything, at least thats what my UMD characters have all had, might need to clairify that, though.
_________________
The Incredible Johnny Space
'Sand'
The Shadow
Master Lemming
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 22:25 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
15UMD for SunSoul boots +5, And All Scrolls/Wands.
30 To make use of everything safely, Meaning armor/weapon/etcetc
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Sun, Aug 15 2010, 22:42 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
DoomKnight wrote: Yeah, because not only being able to dish out dev crits AND be immune to them (plus immunity to stun/hold/para, extra HP, extra AC, etc) really sucks? If that build had both, it wouldn't. It doesn't, so it does. ~40AB is not dishing out Devcrit; it is picking on builds run by people that don't give a toss about PvP.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 0:12 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
Uberuce wrote: Murex wrote: 1. I assume this is just your opinion. The NWN engine says so too. Reinhard didn't last very long as a melee PM, though, if I recall. Went to being a summoner with heavy armour+tower, which is still a Wiz/PM with a Fighter level, but not a fighter. Mm.. you caught me there. He wasn't a melee PM for very long, you're right. Quote: If that build had both, it wouldn't. It doesn't, so it does. ~40AB is not dishing out Devcrit; it is picking on builds run by people that don't give a toss about PvP. And double right on that one.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
Murex
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 0:28 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Dec 2009
|
Uberuce wrote: Murex wrote: 1. I assume this is just your opinion. The NWN engine says so too. Reinhard didn't last very long as a melee PM, though, if I recall. Went to being a summoner with heavy armour+tower, which is still a Wiz/PM with a Fighter level, but not a fighter. Is a L5 fighter a fighter by your standards? A 5 Wiz/5 Fighter/20 PM can somehow be easier to role-play I assume if that's the case.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 0:29 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
A standard rule we follow here... If you want cheese build it your own self.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 0:31 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
Murex wrote: Uberuce wrote: Murex wrote: 1. I assume this is just your opinion. The NWN engine says so too. Reinhard didn't last very long as a melee PM, though, if I recall. Went to being a summoner with heavy armour+tower, which is still a Wiz/PM with a Fighter level, but not a fighter. Is a L5 fighter a fighter by your standards? A 5 Wiz/5 Fighter/20 PM can somehow be easier to role-play I assume if that's the case. By fighter he means "dude who mixes it up in melee", I assume, which the DevMaster does and Reinard did not. Thus the distinction between fighter levels and being a fighter.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
Fabian
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 3:19 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Aug 2009
|
|
I know nothing of shifters but would like to try one. I'm considering dr5/rog3/shifter22.
Couple of questions:
Any suggestions for actual build out skills/feats?
I'm also assuming zen archery works for manticore shape?
_________________
~Science Transcript~
Bruce Kesselson: [Talk] Channeling a different color.. Vyashir!
Vyashir lndrire: [Talk] Purple?
Bruce Kesselson: [Talk] Prepare for purple!
Vyashir lndrire: [Talk] yes!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Silent2001
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 3:26 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Location: United Kingdomshire
|
|
Sorcerer epic feats. Level 26.
Epic Spell Focus Necro/Enchant
Epic Spell: Mummy Dust/Hellball
Great Charisma.
Ending charisma 28.
I'm tempted to swap out Enchantment for Greater Ruin. Thoughts?
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
|
|
|
|
|
|
DerkDerkistan
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 4:34 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Location: Earth
|
Fabian wrote: I know nothing of shifters but would like to try one. I'm considering dr5/rog3/shifter22.
Couple of questions:
Any suggestions for actual build out skills/feats?
I'm also assuming zen archery works for manticore shape? You can't take 22 shifter levels. Max is 20. And....I've never played a shifter here, but I think 17 or 19 is all you'll want for it. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
_________________
Remember when I knew a boxer, baby
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 4:37 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
Fabian wrote: I know nothing of shifters but would like to try one. I'm considering dr5/rog3/shifter22.
Couple of questions:
Any suggestions for actual build out skills/feats?
I'm also assuming zen archery works for manticore shape? You wont be spending much time in manticore shape when you snag the epic shifts. 5 druid 6 CoT 19 Shifter _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 4:49 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
|
It does work for manticore shift, yep, and medusa shift too.
Shapes will continue to progress all the way to 20 but shifts stop upgrading at 19.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uberuce
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 8:43 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
|
Murex wrote: Is a L5 fighter a fighter by your standards? A 5 Wiz/5 Fighter/20 PM can somehow be easier to role-play I assume if that's the case. Meh, I fold. A non-casting Palemaster is not an invalid concept; I think every warrior must be jealous of the Palemaster's uncanny robustness, so it's not RPly absurd that individuals without certain moral qualms would look into it, but it'd take a certain kind of blindness on your character's side to miss the fact he or she was neglecting their martial training to the point it was a struggle to hit a barn door. Best BAB you can get on that one is 17, so your final AB rests at 38/33/28 until you get a Surestrike/Flawless. There are a couple of seriously nasty PM builds, but 5/5/20 isn't one of them, and I'm not saying what they are.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 11:56 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
-whistles innocently-
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uncle-Opustus
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 15:56 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
|
Silent2001 wrote: I'm tempted to swap out Enchantment for Greater Ruin. Thoughts? Greater Ruin is fancy, but not that fancy. _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 19:19 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
Mighty Rage Ruce said you only need 15 barbarian levels.... Wiki claims 20, anyone for sure? http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Mighty_rage((Read the prerequistites)) _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jaydn
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 19:41 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: I'm around
|
GreatPigeon wrote: Mighty Rage Ruce said you only need 15 barbarian levels.... Wiki claims 20, anyone for sure? http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Mighty_rage((Read the prerequistites)) Prereq. wants greater rage, which only needs 15 Barbarian levels. So... i would assume 15 as long as you meet the other prereqs. _________________ 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 19:45 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
is it possible in any build to fit
Mighty rage
Terrifying
Thundering
overwhelming
Devastating?
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
MoshingChris
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 20:40 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
|
Very_Svensk wrote: is it possible in any build to fit
Mighty rage
Terrifying
Thundering
overwhelming
Devastating? Yup. But its so gimped you may aswell call the character "Gimpy Mc 8int the Slappable Bitch"
_________________
I play: Gage le Gris
Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 20:53 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
BLEH.
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
davis114
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 20:53 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
|
|
What he's tryin to say is you'll use every single feat you've got just to get the requirements for those feats. You can get them, but they'll be -all- you can get. So, yes. Not terribly effective.
_________________  MoshingChris wrote: Dude makes like a drunk even when he's sober.
|
|
|
|
|
|
jafman30
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 21:03 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: The Land of Confusion.
|
|
On a barbarian that's dealing godly amounts of damage, why would one need Dev anyway?
_________________
--MAINS--
Xanon .: Talonite!
Xiladei .: Amethyst Dragon Disciple.
Ryth .: Returning Elven Archer. Missing for some time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 21:58 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
Cuz it's OOMPH
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Mon, Aug 16 2010, 23:25 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
If you're dishing out damage of 50+ per hit and 200+ on crits. With 55+ ab. Dev crit is just kind of... redundant.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Tue, Aug 17 2010, 0:19 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
Never say never!
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
FattyBunny
|
Posted: Tue, Aug 17 2010, 1:36 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 02 Jul 2010
|
|
Never.
_________________
Player of:
Leon R. Aritek ~ Warpriest of Helm
Bokart Gorstag ~ The friendly barbarian who's not so great at common.
Stass'et Trem'nys
|
|
|
|
|
|
billytheid
|
Posted: Tue, Aug 17 2010, 11:11 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Terra Australis
|
|
Question: Making a dual shortsword rogue/wm/fighter... now, i've got it all just about sorted out, ends up with Epic Dodge, 6 attacks, a nasty crit range and maxed Hide, MS, Spot and Listen (30 Disc. and Tumble)
Questions: What kind of skill level do I need for epic traps; both setting and disarming?
What should I take for my last feat? The irritating thing about this build is that I use a few mundane feats in epic levels to get the end result I want. I assume Blind Fight is almost vital but I'll have to take it in Epic levels and as such the only Epic feats I end up with are Epic Dodge, EWF and EWS.
yea or nay?
_________________
Jess Incognito: F.L.A.G. Inc.
Gharl Killith: Hobgoblin Headhunter
Olaf Grudgebringer: Bad tempered Dwarvern Weaponsmith
"But thats mainly because I'm an Aussie and what you guys call flaming and rudeness I call a normal conversation."
|
|
|
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Login
