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hendrack
 
PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:45 PM 

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One rogue level and ESF:Spot.


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:47 PM 

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I value Hellball over any Skill increase, i think.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:49 PM 

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Hope the EO has a spotter then!


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:52 PM 

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Still want that Silent spell feat.

Would i suffer if i removed Imp.critical?

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:53 PM 

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Why on earth you want silent spell anyhow on a mixed cleric hybrid?


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:54 PM 

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Figured i would replace Quality with Quantity of EarthQuakes.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:57 PM 

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I am out.

*pulls eject loop and cries EJECT EJECT EJECT*


Last edited by hendrack on Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:57 PM, edited 1 time in total.

 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:57 PM 

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This is how it ended up. Unsure, but doesn't the Death Domain upgrade at level ...27, huh?

edit:: Okaay okaay, I suck, i admit it...Dont point out the obvious hendrack

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 17:58 PM 

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You don't suck but you can't make your mind up what you want to do with your cleric. I've seen women having their days more able to make decisions. Not meant to be offensive, just saying. :D


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:00 PM 

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It's like shoes.

There are so many, that i can't choose. I get confused.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:01 PM 

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Never go wrong with pumps.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:06 PM 

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Last question - Worth Sacrificing an epic feat for Silent spell, or grab armour skin? With armour-skin i get 70AC.

Edit: oh, and same question as before; Death domain summon upgrades at ...18--27 right?

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:07 PM 

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1. Forget Death domain since you don't enough cleric,
2. I'd say ditch hellball for extended spell. You need extended divine powers.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:08 PM 

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Already got it, It's on Human Extra feat at level 1.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:09 PM 

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Death Domain should upgrade at 22 and 27. The 22 level one is strong enough to do serious damage.

He has extend spell.

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Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.


 
      
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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:11 PM 

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Quite frankly, to build a melee cleric: Go either CHA 18 or then just all STR with sucky CHA, don't try to make it an effective caster (some offensive spells remain handy), make sure you get: Extend, Maximise, Blind fight and obvious the melee feats. Naturally some gimmicks have to bend these.

Svensk, have fun playing with a crippled clericky man or stop making those mixed up aberrations.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:16 PM 

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I just think it's sort of ...essential to have Divine might/Shield. I mean, even when you're not CHA maxed, you still dish out neat damage and get horrid AC.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:26 PM 

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It's not. *slap* If you're not going to make stellar use of it, there's a whole litany of better things. Especially on a feat depraved cleric.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:29 PM 

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I still think a DC of 37 for evocation spells is enough.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 21:22 PM 

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hendrack wrote:
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I am out.

*pulls eject loop and cries EJECT EJECT EJECT*


AH i fell out of my seat lawling.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 21:39 PM 

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TormakSaber wrote:
Spell DC has nothing to do with how many levels you have in a class.

http://www.nwnwiki.com

Please learn mechanics before you dispense advice in this thread.


Whoops... I was a bit tired. I meant to say his ability to fight dispelling, not spell DC.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 0:45 AM 

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Can someone tell me about an amazing monk?

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 1:09 AM 

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The living doll wrote:
Can someone tell me about an amazing monk?


We are gonna need a tad more then that....

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Uncle-Opustus wrote:
Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 1:26 AM 

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Hendrack wins this thread.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 5:28 AM 

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GreatPigeon wrote:
The living doll wrote:
Can someone tell me about an amazing monk?


We are gonna need a tad more then that....


I just want to hear about any monk builds that are good. A cut above the standard 30 monk. Ummm, one that punches things, and has good ac. I don't know. . .

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 5:53 AM 

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25 monk 4 fighter 1 rogue
25 monk 4 fighter 1 ranger
20 monk 10 cleric
20 monk 9 cleric 1 fighter/ranger


Lets hear what its rp'd as and such then we can find something a bit more proper!
Etc, Etc

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Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 12:56 PM 

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side note. is that an excel spreadsheet that people can get to map out their character numbers? If so, where do we get it and can i play around with builds on it, or is it just knowing the numbers and plugging them in yourself..

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 13:11 PM 

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Yeah, its a pretty fancy bit of work.

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=ot ... ail&id=856

You can even put it your own races if youre a Mulan or somesuch. Works out all your feats and AB and saves and whatnot.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 13:23 PM 

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Its not 100 percent accurate.

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Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 13:49 PM 

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The CBC? I've only found one mistake on it so far. It lets you take Dev Crit on the level you boost your STR to 25, and it shouldn't.

I imagine Epic Dodge might be similar but I haven't tested it.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 15:00 PM 

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It has some odd calculations about Skill points also.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 15:49 PM 

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I just use notepad and google's calculator.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 16:29 PM 

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Could anyon help me make an RDD fighter? I'm lost on how that build would work. I'm looking to make a decent build that could handle himself.

I was thinking maybe wielding a halberd or double sword, or basically just a 2 hander. I don't know if that would work, but I'm looking for him to be a good dmg PC.

He'll be Silverkin, so no evil aligned classes. Bahamut Follower. I'd like him to be a good melee class ^^

Thanks to anyone who sheds some light. :D



(Yes Ruce, I know... RDD's are crap in your opinion >_>)

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 17:42 PM 

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who would punch me in the face if I responded with barbarian 24/bard2/rdd4?


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 17:47 PM 

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I use single player for the purpose of testing builds

Tuigan Test in Single

18STR 8dex 10con 14int 14widom 8cha (example not accurate)

Press ~
DebugMode 1
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dm_givelevel 29 (28 for ECL +1, 27 for ECL +2)
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Level as normal.

Its faster than the CBC, its more accurate than the CBC.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 18:01 PM 

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762 wrote:
The CBC? I've only found one mistake on it so far. It lets you take Dev Crit on the level you boost your STR to 25, and it shouldn't.

I imagine Epic Dodge might be similar but I haven't tested it.



There's that! And sometimes I notice skill point calculations wrong. Dont have it anymore though, lost it :(

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blackvswhite wrote:
who would punch me in the face if I responded with barbarian 24/bard2/rdd4?


Not that. I'd rather him have 10 RDD so he can have wings :). He'll be human and I was going for the concept of thickly muscled.. but not overly tall. Basically he'd be your giant Silver soldier :D

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 19:04 PM 

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Don't you people know mental calculation? The numbers in NWN are incredibly easy to learn.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 19:09 PM 

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I wonder... 20 bard/10rdd, str based with 16 cha?


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 19:15 PM 

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Works.

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That could work, but Silver dragons are lawful and Bard can't be lawful :(. I'd like to stick to the alignment as best as possible, but he won't be too uptight about it.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 20:49 PM 

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20 Monk 1 Sorc 9 RDD.

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MoshingChris wrote:
20 Monk 1 Sorc 9 RDD.


Why the sorc? If did bard, he could get the UMD dump. Unless if his skills are a bit too selectional. I am taking into account the Wyrmling he'd get by taking sorc, btw.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 20:56 PM 

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does darkvision do anything at all?


 
      
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Uh, I think it brightens your screen when you're in a dark place. Unsure, though.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 21:00 PM 

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in light of the gamma slider, it does nothing, then...


 
      
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Sweetdreamz wrote:
MoshingChris wrote:
20 Monk 1 Sorc 9 RDD.


Why the sorc? If did bard, he could get the UMD dump. Unless if his skills are a bit too selectional. I am taking into account the Wyrmling he'd get by taking sorc, btw.


Monk's lawful only. I'd rather go with 25/4/1 myself, but since you want the wings.

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Just looked it up. Darkvision works if your initial race recieves it. EG, Dwarf, Elf (I think), and that bunch. But if you recieve it through classes, RDD, PM, and SD. It doesen't affect you at all, it's completely null.


 
      
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Uncle-Opustus wrote:
Sweetdreamz wrote:
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20 Monk 1 Sorc 9 RDD.


Why the sorc? If did bard, he could get the UMD dump. Unless if his skills are a bit too selectional. I am taking into account the Wyrmling he'd get by taking sorc, btw.


Monk's lawful only. I'd rather go with 25/4/1 myself, but since you want the wings.


Oh right, oopsy on my part.


 
      
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Query (and it does relate to builds kind of) - I've heard the BGs bull strength stacks with potions. Is this true with their casting of eagles and also the assassin's cats and fox's feat castings?


 
      
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