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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 19 2010, 14:08 PM 

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Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never understood the conversion from Cyric to Bane. You go from being Chaotic to Lawful in a snap of your fingers? What? Really? No that makes no sense.


Tell that to Fzoul, and the majority of the former Banite clergy on Midwinter 1372DR.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 19 2010, 14:13 PM 

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762 wrote:
Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never understood the conversion from Cyric to Bane. You go from being Chaotic to Lawful in a snap of your fingers? What? Really? No that makes no sense.


Tell that to Fzoul, and the majority of the former Banite clergy on Midwinter 1372DR.


So What happened? :o I think as long there is a personal reason or event I don't see anything wrong with it. Also unless they are a cleric does it matter that much?

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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 19 2010, 14:19 PM 

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762 wrote:
Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never understood the conversion from Cyric to Bane. You go from being Chaotic to Lawful in a snap of your fingers? What? Really? No that makes no sense.


Tell that to Fzoul, and the majority of the former Banite clergy on Midwinter 1372DR.


I blame that on WOTC's horrible history with lore. The degrading lack of lore since 2.0 is an example of this. 4.0 is the prime example of it.

The thing is, it's not just clerics. I know people say it only matters to clerics, but it doesn't!. There are plenty of characters which have not been clerics who have been prime examples of devot worshippers to their god. They are driven by their gods and the power their gods have. They have even been spoken to in some manner, by their gods. I dislike this idea that religious adherement is limited only to Clerics. It's not.

If Calin got forsaken by the Red Knight because he ran around murdering people, then it would be a HUGE effect on his life. His self esteem, his purpose. Everything. Thats his goddess. If he wasn't backed up by her, and didn't feel like she was watching his actions in some way, he would be shattered. Thats because he considers himself as someone who represents the goddess. So it matters a lot.

Its always grated on my nerves a bit that the idol system only really effects clerics. The prayers effect me however, and they effect my characters RP. If my diety stopped answering them, I'd begin to think something is seriously wrong. I mean, if worshippers start jumping around gods willy nilly they are gonna get a smack on the bum, it's natural. If your in a high postion, such as a commander in the Army of Light, and you become a Sharran, Tyr or Lathender, whoever the commander worshipped and fought for, is gonna probably get a wee bit pissed.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 19 2010, 14:33 PM 

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762 wrote:
Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never understood the conversion from Cyric to Bane. You go from being Chaotic to Lawful in a snap of your fingers? What? Really? No that makes no sense.


Tell that to Fzoul, and the majority of the former Banite clergy on Midwinter 1372DR.


Fzoul was a Cyricist? :shock:

EDIT: wooot :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 19 2010, 15:44 PM 

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Fzoul was hardly ever close to being a Cyricist, he hated Cyric with every fiber of his bone but played along not to get squashed by the Cyricist majority. It wasn't for nothing Cyric wanted to test "The Life of Cyric" on him first. (Mask taking the blow but still)

Which is really the core of the essential wedge between Cyric and Bane. After Bane died Cyric took over all his all old domains along with Bhaals and Myrkuls. So the clerics those gods either had to convert or instantly loose the ability to cast spells as their divine link had been severed.

When Bane reappeared a lot of the old core Banites rejoined the old faith straight away but some didn't making the massive front between the two deities now. Its entirely impossible for both of them to coexist in neutrality since the Banites want to squash all followers of Cyric for unsurping the reign of Bane and in paticular those who remained Cyricist after Bane reappeared.

For the Cyricists its a question of the Banites directly threatning the power of their own deity and thus the fundation for cataclystic religious war is laid. The two groups of followers will stop at nothing to destroy the other.

As to what marks a Cyricist, there's a lot of different kinds of Cyricists marking the many different aspects of his divinity. Followers of Cyric can basically be found of ever layer of society since his domains are very wide and a lot of Faerûn's people find themselves in situations where they wish for the death of a rival, the success of their buissness against all others.

Likewise there's a lot of different ideas as to how the Cyricist clergy is organized because ultimately there's no central authority. Unlike the tightly organized Banites the Cyricist groups of Faiths tend to wary a lot depending on which area you are.

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