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P Three
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 Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 16:48 PM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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So tell me.
Paladins and Chromatic kin. What's your take? I'm talkin, kin enough to have wings, Tiamatist, all that.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 16:56 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Location: Victoria, Australia
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Paladins destroy evil.
Chromatic Dragons are evil.
Chromatic Dragon Blood is by nature, Evil.
Chromatic Dragon Disciples are by extension - Evil, due to willful devotion to an Evil creature and Evil bloodlines.
Enjoy ze math <3. Sadly alot of people ignore this anyway and make these silly Lawful Good RDDs, but those tend to get shunned universally, so it's self defeating in most parts.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 17:33 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Good reds and Good whites are still Red and Whites and kin of evil dragons therefore I wouldn't touch a paladin who kills them for being what they are: willfully embracing of their evil, destructive, murderous heritage.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 17:34 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Location: Victoria, Australia
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^ Damn straight.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 20:10 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: The Land of Nod
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They're not evil. It's just everyone else doesn't seem to agree with their views on the world.
I personally think all red dragons. (Including true half-bloods) should have harems of elven females. I mean, what about the red draconic blood's needs? You don't kill a lion because it eats people for food. I mean it was just hungry. The red scales, they have needs. You understand.
Damn paladins.
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-Extraordinarily ordinary in the mostest of ways.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 22:33 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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For people who don't get it: A red dragon's favorite dinner is virgin Elven female. Ha ha. Tee hee. </Tim Buckley>
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Sat, Apr 24 2010, 0:30 AM |
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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Godo wrote: How can this be corrected though without many players getting upset? I personally do not mind being attacked because of being a Goblin, being attacked with instant death and not even having a chance does bother me though.
KoS to the monster races like goblins and such would not be so bad as long as it goes both ways, the problem with this is there would be a huge PvP feast all the time or until no one decides to play a monster race anymore. Its hard for even the normal races to get to the levels they need to defend themselves from other PCs out alone if the monster race had to deal with KoS everywhere that they go. An elf can party up easily with a human, hin, or any of the other races but a Kobold and other monster races are more limited to that since most of the monster races are hostile even to each other.
I agree it is a problem for the IC reactions but I can not see how it can be fixed so as not to have the player base upset all the time. Playing Devil's Advocate here... I think there is a reason why in tne Monster Manual those races' default level is always below 10.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Apr 24 2010, 1:01 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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TormakSaber wrote: For people who don't get it: A red dragon's favorite dinner is virgin Elven female. Ha ha. Tee hee. </Tim Buckley> Red Dragons must be near starved on Amia.
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Strikeclone
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Posted: Sat, Apr 24 2010, 2:04 AM |
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Joined: 21 Apr 2010
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In any D&D world Good and Evil are not subjective. They are absolutes. If a player decides to play an evil or monster race it must be assumed by that PC (note I said PC not player here) that they are going to be subject to this absolute and must have a bloody good RP reason why they are the exemption.
And so its the monster/evil player who is under the burden of proof so to speak, he or she must not expect or assume any metagamed leniency for their PC and must in fact work out how and why they even wish to be accepted (re: not being KoS) in the lands of their racial/faction enemies.
I for one have started to lay down some hopefully IC consistent responses for my different PCs towards different types of evil, hostile or monster PCs I encounter. I won't say there isn't a little store of meta gaming leeway when I meet these types of PCs but its a very small container and is quickly emptied by emo rage style hostile RPing.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sat, Apr 24 2010, 11:25 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Well, I will at least promptly give people i meet a (Feel free to hostile 'n' attack) tell, if i ever start playing my monster PC again
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Gunz
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Posted: Sat, Apr 24 2010, 12:25 PM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Yeah, it's weird playing monster races. I've done it before -- and I continue to, if you consider Drow monsters. I dunno, it just takes a loyal, patient and open player to pull off a monster well, I think. It's a tough thing to pull off. I've only had one true monster character, my Kobold I retired. It was fun, but I just lost the will to want to play him the way he should be played, so I got rid of him. Then I have my Drow and Lycan. I like Drow though, so I'm more inclined to working at it and having fun doing it. Lycans are unique in that you're not truly a monster, even if you are viewed as such when you've taken the form or someone knows about you. Still, you can hide your "monsterness" when you're a Lycan in control. So it kinda doesn't count, to me. Anyway, my point is... well, I don't know what my point is actually... I guess it's just to do what you like. Play what you enjoy playing. Certainly, monster races are -not- for your average player. Selvec Darkon wrote: TormakSaber wrote: For people who don't get it: A red dragon's favorite dinner is virgin Elven female. Ha ha. Tee hee. </Tim Buckley> Red Dragons must be near starved on Amia. Hey-ooooh!
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ainjyll
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Posted: Sun, Apr 25 2010, 0:10 AM |
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Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: wilmington, nc
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Well, I think the solution is pretty obvious. Place all monster PC's on a level with drow. They're all banned from most civilized places unless a signet of some sort is earned. If, after that signet is earned, they want to be hostile or mouthy within the city, a simple screenie of the exchange and a PM to a DM could very well change that status. Short, simple, sweet and to the point.
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Yurell
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Posted: Sun, Apr 25 2010, 3:18 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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That idea sounds good to me.
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Galenson
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Posted: Sun, Apr 25 2010, 4:16 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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Selvec Darkon wrote:
Red Dragons must be near starved on Amia.
Being a lesbian doesn't count as virgin busting.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Sun, Apr 25 2010, 8:08 AM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: The Land of Nod
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Back on topic please. Or at least on the topic of red dragons.
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-Extraordinarily ordinary in the mostest of ways.
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P Three
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Posted: Sun, Apr 25 2010, 15:25 PM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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Which is the only topic that counts.
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