can someone please shut this one up?, he has now insulted the rp of one of the best rped factions on the server and accused us all of getting sexual satisfaction out of pvp...

with all due respect..screw you, i will rp my char as I see fit, my paladin will continue to hunt down any evildoer, no matter how uncomfortable it is to you....guess what..you play a palemaster, a follower of a dark god..i will be uncomfortable around a paladin, because thats what paladins do!



AND FRANKLY, YES IT DOES, when your a lawfull good paladin, your surposed to stop clerics of dark gods, necromancers and such, because its what they do..redemption is not a right for everyone, nor should it be your only mode of opposition.

-You follow bane-> expect to get attacked.
-You follow the vaunted-> expect to get attacked.
-You create undead-> expect to get attacked.
-You follow any dark god or summon dark beings-> expect to get attacked.

why?...because its evil...VERY evil, there where no attempts after ww2 to redeem the totenkoph SS devision, because they slew so many people it was unquestionable evil...and faerun, is not more lenient...quite the conterary.

It IS DEMANDED, by most of the good gods to oppose evil gods, lathander himself depises inactivity against evil.

Frankly, if you dont like pvp, dont play evil openly, or you will get smacked over the head.

That being said, i despise pvp personally, mostly because I get my arse handed to me by the server who seem to comprise of 50% banites these days, but i do it anyway, because its IC, my char is a paladin, a warrior of her god, judge jury and executioner of devine law, you can argue all you want but thats how it is.

I ofcause do not go above the pvp rules, i do follow the rules set down, even though it means the death of my char 90% of the time due to surprise is all gone.

you dont have the first idea of what it means to play a paladin or a follower of a good god...YOU READ UP ON THE ALIGNMENTS...and stop getting a hardon for yelling accusations at people who are actually following thier gods properly..

PS. DO NOT BE REAL ABOUT ANYTHING, THIS IS A GAME AND BASED ON FICTION, GROW UP THIS ISNT THE REAL WORLD

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Saisha Jai'diem Knight of bahamut, and abit of a looker

PS my chars do suffer if they are defeated...

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-Balorin Wolfhammer- A dwarf so old he remember when the Beer stein was invented
Saisha Jai'diem Knight of bahamut, and abit of a looker

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yea thats nice, but when i get insulted like that...I GET MAD

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-Ja'acira Arrows'R'Us
-Balorin Wolfhammer- A dwarf so old he remember when the Beer stein was invented
Saisha Jai'diem Knight of bahamut, and abit of a looker

It's hardly worth getting so angry about. You're danish, you're supposed to be happier than the rest of these sods!

Besides, if you can't handle a player's oppinion, no matter how unfounded or straight out wrong it is, you really should just stop reading that particular player's posts. Geld isn't exactly known for sugarcoating his feelings on any matter.

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actually we are not surposed to be the happiest..we are just the least unhappy.

and frankly, i wont let the statements of idiots stand and mock me, im arguemental by nature and i do not let idiots shout loudest just because of superiority complex.

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-Balorin Wolfhammer- A dwarf so old he remember when the Beer stein was invented
Saisha Jai'diem Knight of bahamut, and abit of a looker

Shifting this back a bit, I do agree sometimes it's interesting to permadeath, and sometimes it's interesting to have an "old fart" around who remembers stuff--- that's just realistic to me that some survive longer and some don't. But yeah, I do think it absolutely has to be consented to by the player-- stilll a game, has to be fun or why play?

But how I handle a "defeat" or death is pretty similar - - shuffle with tail between legs. Stay low, act defeated, depressed, traumatized, etc. Show some fear. Accept a defeat as a defeat.

Bubbles fears the giants a whole lot now that they twisted her into a pretzel. She is not likely to willingly go back to the areas they are known to be. She has been subdued and traumatized by it. The same would go for a PvP death (although I haven't been faced with any PvP at all yet since my return-- not sad about that, dislike it generally). If someone PvPed one of my characters, she'd be terrified of that person from there on out; after "death" would have gone to town, laid low, rested, cried, whatever is appropriate for how things went down.

A bounce back up and "ha ha, you didn't kill me, you can never kill me!" would just be kinda silly, IMO.

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Gah. In my half-asleepness and rage I wrote a giant response to almost half this thread, but I'm getting a "PHP Stack Overflow" message, so I'm guessing its too long. >.<

Put it in a .txt document, in case anyone wants to listen to a huge and rambling rant. Not sure if putting links up is against forum rules... But here goes...

http://rapidshare.com/files/367197609/huegpost.txt.html

As a late and short addition: I agree completely with Merrien. And now, I'm going to sleep.

Night, all.

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I love it when people completely agree with me! ...I wasn't able to read the post though; it wanted me to sign up to read it... blah!

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Geld, please don't make mass generalizations about players intentions. It's rude, incorrect, and incredibly uncalled for. Kranium, if you're worried about a post, let a DM know in lieu of taking the bait.

This thread stays civil. I am extremely tired of people being unable to speak to one another properly, as is the rest of the team. We can either spend our time enriching your universe or spend our time policing the forums. I'm sure you're aware what we prefer.

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I have to admit on this topic I do have a lot of frustration in general as well as some topics related to it but I do my best to contain it for fear when I do express what I honestly wanna say about those feelings, it's gonna get said in an ugly and inappropriate way.

I rarely hear you being ugly or inappropriate, Grym. I say express yourself: if you think it's offtopic, make a new post? Or if you'd like someone else to read it to help edit you/give you an opinion on it, I'd be happy to, and/or a DM might be willing (don't want to speak for them of course though).....

Just saying, I very rarely ever hear you go nutso.

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I've spent the majority of my time on Amia playing an evil, spider-kissing, totalitarian, elitist, covetous bitch. Now I play a goodie-two-shoes with a slight aggressive streak. It's not people who play lawful good paladins. It's not people who play neutral evil necromancers. It's people who play chaotic stupid jerks who mess everything up. We all know that chaotic stupid has a way of permeating any class or alignment in it's goal of ruining someone else's day.

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"I once took the high road and it took me straight to hell and I stood there all by myself." -Hank III

OR we could remember that looking down our noses at others' RP is tacky and lacks in style. You don't like how someone RPs? Don't RP with them. Don't yank it out in the Forums and point and laugh.

You're not perfect either, and people on this server are seriously better than you. (Yes, that goes for everyone. Except Ron. Because Eary scares me.)

That's not at all to say you aren't entitled to your own opinion. You are. But there's a time, a place, and a way to state it. This isn't it.

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Danika Nefzen: Druid of the Earthmother
Delia Am'Anodel: Paladin of Torm

Eh, you say cup half epmty, I say cup half full.

On the topic, though, I don't care how anyone reacts to their character dying. Hell, it's gotten boring to me to be shaky everytime a character of mine goes down, so I save that for specific encounters. If Eir is wtf pwned by some random drow in Amia Forest, he'll like react calmly. If he's captured by said drow, taken to their evil place, tortured and slowly killed, he'll feel actualy fear.

I have no expectations of anything more from my fellow players. Play it like you want to, as long as you don't step on anyone, or break any rules it's all good.

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Same people spitting the same dribble to me...except I care less now.

This is the place to discuss it since we can't do it in game under a heated arguement.

Death RP should be something to be discussed. Killing period should be something to be discussed.

There ARE chaotic stupid people out there, and I ain't subjecting my character to them....you said leave. You're right. I did exactly that. I left. So don't complain later when someone skips out on you. I had people skip out on me.

Difference is when they skipped out on me I talked to the person and handled it between us players, I didn't go crying to the DMs in an attempt to force another character to die/be tortured/ be victimized in any way.....and I play a necromancer.

Too often does some one cry out foul "They should be my victim for hours!..Whah!"

I don't believe any DM should even take these complaints seriosuly.

If someone skipped out on you, look to your own RP as the culprit.

I did, and I ain't ashamed to admit it.

BTW when I down someone I don't "kill" them. I severely weaken them. If they want to die, I'm very sure they will happily let me know, cause I give them that option.

Attempting in any way to force or thrust your RP in the other players face when the other player is clearly enjoying less and less is like...well...frankly..

It's like giving it in the rear without even the courtesy of a reach around.



PS I have no clue who Kranium is....so where it's coming from is beyond me.

References to the specific event. I'd be glad to set you right, if I didnt get this topic locked if I would do so. So I suggest you edit before a dm sees it.

I see no specifics. And that situation happened more often than I like, to be frank.

Not with just me as a victim, not with others as victims, and not with anyone as a victimizer, but with everyone buddy.

Who hasn't seen a person get up from death, upset, and walk off/rant/complain/whine?

It happens.

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity".

Same applies to our characters. "What they do, echoes thought the server".
And WE are responsible to make that happen in a just and respectful manner.
So we must think BEFORE we act, not after.

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Good advice...I wish players did that before their characters acted. And I wish I did that as a player before I speak....lol

Geld...just stop. You accused a large section of the playerbase of some really nasty, inflamatory stuff. You don't have to answer back, just stop.

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Dear Kranium: Stop being an overassuming, self righeous knd of arrogant dick. You've done it to me as a DM, and as a player, on the forums, in PMs, and in tells, to more people than I can count.

Dear Geld: As the DM who had to give you your last forum ban, please listen to me when I say if you're forum banned again, you probably will not be coming back. Stop digging your own grave.

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Sorry...I need to curb that.

Thanks for undermineing my chance for a pompous snipe... your comment is all reasoning and accuracy.

Content: Axl was right in my humble opinon; attacking anothers RP because you disagree with it is tacky. It also happens so often that miscommunication has become a problem. I've had people respond with comments about RPing their character as they see fit after I've sent them a comment that was not intended to be a comment on their RP at all.

Do we all need to cool our opinion jets a bit? I know I do.

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Krunk (Underdark): Stay back! He's a bit mad.

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By the way guys and gals. Think we all need to re-read the topic heading and shut the hell up.

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"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"

This thread has gone well beyond its use by date, and the topic has been handled.


Also;

Kranium, Formal Conduct Warning. Read the Terms of Service that you agreed to before posting further. This includes a requirement that inflammatory, insulting, hateful, and posts of the nature are not to be made. Behave.

Geld, Formal Conduct Warning. Read the Terms of Service that you agreed to before posting further. This includes a requirement that inflammatory, insulting, hateful, and posts of the nature are not to be made. Behave.

Next steps are forum bans.

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