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Acacia
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 22 2010, 23:11 PM 



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I made a Ffolk druid of the Earthmother (or Chauntea, really), and I intend to roleplay her as a Celtic champion runic druid (since the Ffolk are Celtic-themed). She carries runes around and uses them to channel natural power, and her communion with nature allows her to shift forms and call upon the aid of an animal companion.

Is there too much contradiction between Chauntea, druidism, and agriculture in Forgotten Realms if I want her to take on an agricultural job? I know that followers of Chauntea are commonly farmers, but can a druid be a druid of agriculture or are Forgotten Realms druids exclusively wild or counter-agricultural or counter-civilization regardless of the deity? The Celtic theme I've been using for my druid is based on "Tain bo Cuailgne" and "Balor of the Evil Eye" and the druids there are not necessarily witchy or uncivilized, and cattle are currency as well as food.

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I'm not an expert on druids, so my opinion may be wrong, but so far as I see it agriculture should be fine so long as the balance is maintained. Rotate your crops, don't grow one variety of plant (e.g. there are literally hundreds of different kinds of potato), and don't go slash & burn to clear land.

Everyone has to eat, and growing the food sustainably should be fine for a druid IMO.

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http://www.nj-pbem.com/data/Gods/humangods/Chauntea.htm wrote:
Chauntea's church has two wings: standard clerics who minister to the faithful in towns, cities, and civilized areas, and druids who work in more outlying regions. With the success of the town priests, the druids have been moving farther and farther afield. The relationship between the druids, who call themselves "True Clerics of Chauntea," and the more civilized clerics is cordial, but at times strained. The druids have always venerated Chauntea, and consider the more recent city disciples to be upstarts. The more civilized priests, in turn, feel that the druids' day is done, and while druids are still useful in wild lands, the rising nations need and organized, professional faith controlled by a more reasonable and rational clergy. The percentage breakdown of clerics and druids in the clergy is about 40% clerics and 50% druids. Mystics and shamans, who work alone outside of either wing of the church and report only to She Who Shapes All herself, comprise only 5% of the priesthood together, and monks, who are always allied to a particular temple or druidic circle's leader, round out the remaining 5%.


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She carries runes around and uses them to channel natural power, and her communion with nature allows her to shift forms and call upon the aid of an animal companion.


Regardless of runes, place magic and so on, I think druids on Amia still need a deity to get spells from, no matter what, correct?

Anyway, I have a character who is a priest of Chauntea as well, been looking for other followers.


 
      
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 23 2010, 0:04 AM 

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hendrack wrote:
Regardless of runes, place magic and so on, I think druids on Amia still need a deity to get spells from, no matter what, correct?

Anyway, I have a character who is a priest of Chauntea as well, been looking for other followers.


A few adds to the first one:

"However, though druids indeed draw great power from nature, druids, nigh universally, do not see themselves as masters of the wild but rather its servants, much as a cleric might serve a god or a knight his liege."

"Druids obtain these primal powers from being at one with nature or from one of several patrons of the wild, often gods or powerful nature spirits."

"Druids access a set of divine powers that are granted by one or several gods of nature. They are required to choose a God of nature to be given these spells and abilities."


kinda contrary?

As for the other followers of Chauntea, find out IC i guess.

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 23 2010, 0:34 AM 

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The runes thing is doable as long as you understand on an IC and cosmological levle her powers are coming from the deity, not the runes.

As for chauntea and agriculture in general, even Druids understand that not everyone can just live in the wild with nothing. druids cultivate, Druids grow. They perform agriculture. Perhaps not on the level that might be considered "commercial agriculture", but they are tending to animals, they are growing plants. There are many places where Druids are called upon to bless the year's harvests.

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 23 2010, 0:57 AM 

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I like the idea, altough runes are rather germanic then celtic and since chauntea is chaotic good you cant drown people in a locla bog for a better harvest. How I'd love to rp that, but the only evil druid deity I ca nthink up is malar and he doesnt give damn about your harvest... He does have the wildhunt tough wich is a good celtic custom. Anyway enjoy your play.


 
      
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A Druid is a priest of divine power which means their powers come from a god. That's how it works on FR.

About Druids and agriculture, Chauntea and Sheela Peryroyl (Hin goddess of Nature) are prime examples of god who have their Druids perform agricultural duties. As a matter of fact, they both hold agriculture in their portfolios. These two goddess of tame nature (although Sheela is more of a half and halfer. That is, she's a goddess of tame and wild nature), agriculture and horticulture plays a huge part in their followers lives. They both have harvest festivals too.

Also, you don't need to be a Druid of these goddess to be a Druid of the tame. It just usually happens that these goddesses hold most of the Druids of the tame. But Chauntea has Druids who tend to the wild even. Likewise, Silvanus, god of the wild, has Druids who specialize in city life. In the city of Silverymoon, Druids and Rangers of Silvanus have a sacred grove of Silvanus right inside the city. They planted this grove too. It's their idea of "a piece of the wild" for the city.

Druids are more diverse than they're given credit for. Don't think there's a mold because there isn't. Good luck.

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While I may agree about Chauntea and agriculture (though I'm not sure; F&A specifically states that clerics conduct business in civilized lands and druids in the wild), we must remember that this topic refers specifically to the Earthmother. She is not identical to Chauntea. She is an individual aspect of Chauntea tied to Moonshae, portraying a different side of her. She is much more wild and all-encompassing than the continental Chauntea. As I understand it, the Earthmother is rather close to Silvanus.

Moonshae wrote:
The religious foundation of the Moonshae
Isles is predicated upon a worship
of the land itself. This belief, originated
and primarily held by the Ffolk, has
resulted in a conception of their goddess
as the earthmother. The belief
holds that the goddess is not a humanshaped,
or otherwise mortal-imitating
being; but is rather the hills and moors
and marshes and seas of the world.
Central to this belief is the purity of
the land. The antithesis of the goddess
is, naturally, the threat of corruption,
perversion, or pollution of the land.
The goddess is a neutral deity, recognizing
that both good and evil have a place
in the world. Her strength derives from
a Balance of these extremes. Her enemies
are not only those evil ones who
would extinguish life casually and frequently,
or maliciously bring destruction
upon her. She is also threatened by
those who preach a doctrine of complete
peace, or practice the science of
bringing the land under the control of
its human caretakers, threaten to push
the Balance too far in the other direction.

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And the clerics of the new gods
threaten the Balance as well, with their
words of good and peace and mastery
over nature. Peace is a benign blessing,
but is the natural state of the goddess,
and when this peace must be accompanied
by mastery of the land, as the clerics
preach, the power of the mother can
only wane

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The goddess of the Moonshaes is an
aspect of the benign goddess Chauntea
(Chawn—TEE—ah), who is worshiped
throughout the Realms as the neutral
good goddess of agriculture. As she is
worshiped in the Moonshaes, however,
her aspect is shaped differently than it
is in any other part of the Realms.
Where Chauntea is generally worshiped
as a goddess of agriculture, the
earthmother is much more a goddess of
nature. Agriculture as an aspect of nature
she regards kindly, but agriculture as
an attempt to master the land becomes a
grave threat to her existence.


So yes, apparently she could have druids who favor agriculture. I suppose it would be very moderate and always concerned about not enslaving the land. Probably not static farming but rather moving from one place to another, burning down a patch of the forest for fertile soil and then moving on next year so that the land may reclaim the field.

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