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Uncle-Opustus
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Location: Finland
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sYuzan wrote: Putting together something of a Tuigan battlepriest.
Human, Tuigan
Str 17 (+1)
Dex 8 (-1)
Con 12
Wisdom 16
Int 12
Cha 8
1 Cleric - Power Attack, Cleave
2 Cleric
3 Cleric - Extend Spell
4 Cleric
5 Cleric
6 Cleric - Great Cleave
7 Cleric
8 Cleric
9 Cleric - Weapon Focus
10 Cleric
11 Cleric
12 Cleric - Improved Critical
13 Cleric
14 Cleric
15 Cleric - Knockdown
16 Blackguard
17 Blackguard
18 Blackguard - Blind-Fight
19 Blackguard
20 Cleric
21 Cleric - Great Strength
22 Cleric
23 Cleric
24 Cleric - Overwhelming Critical
25 Cleric
26 Cleric
27 Rogue - Devastating Critical
28 Rogue
29 Rogue
30 Cleric - Great Wisdom, EWF
Would end up with 26 STR, 17 Wisdom. I'm aware it only would be able to cast 7th level spells.
Nope, you will have at least 19 Wisdom, or you will cry and have at least 19 Wisdom. Retarded priests are intolerable. Naw, but really, having 20 WIS pays off in the end. _________________  UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 21:44 PM |
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I heard something about a Cleric/Monk build? What is that?
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 22:01 PM |
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cleric/monk? oh, right. that would be... cheese. basically just tack 3 lvls of monk onto a cleric and boost your AC ridiculously
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Kjetta
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Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 23:18 PM |
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*Coughcoughcough* Yeah, it's cheesy, no doubt about that. You can however attempt to cover up that cheese with a dumb weapon choice, like I've tried.
Dire mace and you're good.
PS! Incoming nerf, so don't get too attached to your ac.
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oshizo2
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 1:47 AM |
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Hey I don't know how stupid this sounds but can a black gaurd be an epic good smiter?
How would a build for it go?.
Something like: rouge(1), fighter(8 ) max char, bg(10 ), fighter(1 ), bg(8 ), rogue(1 )tumble dump, bg.
How would that work? I know its pretty useless be it there aren't many good monsters in the server, but the novelty would be something. Antipaladin quite literally.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 2:04 AM |
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oshizo2 wrote: Hey I don't know how stupid this sounds but can a black gaurd be an epic good smiter?
How would a build for it go?.
Something like: rouge(1), fighter(8 ) max char, bg(10 ), fighter(1 ), bg(8 ), rogue(1 )tumble dump, bg.
How would that work? I know its pretty useless be it there aren't many good monsters in the server, but the novelty would be something. Antipaladin quite literally.
He who is about to Smite Good, I salute you!
It's a bit harder. If you're going for smite, on a BG, its's really, really hard to get a high number without suffering somewhere else down the road. You'll probably spend all your epic and bonus feats on Great Smiting, so if you're dedicated to making a well-off Smiter of Good, be prepared to not have some of the more traditional things at higher levels.
I'm thinking the lowest level you can go BG is... at least 7? 6 if you take a level of rogue or monk before the rest fighter. It doesn't matter in the end, the most you can end up with is 10(base class)/20 Blackguard. Assuming you're 10/10BG at epic, you'll have, with 2 epic feats and 3 bonus feats from BG, most Great Smiting you could get is Great Smite V. Translates to 120 extra damage on smites. Not a lot, but remembering that your Cha mod gets added to smite attempts and depending on your weapon, might be sufficient, at best.
If you're going CHA based that may be enough, though. With sufficient turns, you can probably get by with Divine Might and Shield just fine, in terms fo damage. Going cleric for 10 will get you access to some good divine spells to boost AB and Damage as well.
In the end, it's a very specialized build. But certainly rewarding on an RP end if you want to specifically be a Slayer of the Light. 
Might even suggest BG somehow allow for other character levels to count towards Smite Good in your honor... so beautiful....*sniff*
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ticket
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 2:33 AM |
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I'm a bit rusty in NWN but if I'm not mistaken, a 20 BG with Great Smite 7 would do an additional damage of 160. It's possible. Add in your weapon + divine might (~40-50 damage) and you could kill a goodie in a single smite crit (400 on an x2 weapon, 600 on an x3). A long crit range weapon will still be the best choice but since you're going for style, I'd say go pick your deity's favored weapon or an x3 even if you would less likely land a smite crit.
It's also probably better to go with Great Smite 5/6/7 on a 16/17/18/19 BG though so you could get in a few epic feats and maybe even free up some ability points and/or get the epic fiend and/or get UMD/Tumble/Spellcraft/Evasion.
The build would be feat starved so fighter would probably make the most logical base class. Maybe even think of using 10 barbarian to make you beefier and get some nice rages and a much needed AB boost if you could squeeze it all in. Tumble & UMD would also be nice to have, so 1 rogue/bard will help you. Evasion & tumble would fit in well too so monk is also viable as your 3rd class.
Just remember that you can take great smite even on a different class (non-BG) so ranger or fighter bonus feats will play a part in epic and give you an extra epic feat to work on. Just find a good balance/compromise for your desired smite damage against good & survivability against everyone else. Oh and since you'd most likely take advantage of one of the subraces in Amia, be sure to know about them.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 2:38 AM |
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Ack, you're right ticket. Got my Stat-point levels and General feat levels confused. >_<
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 5:42 AM |
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Muspelkvist wrote: I heard something about a Cleric/Monk build? What is that?
You didn't hear anythnig.
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oshizo2
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 8:57 AM |
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Location: USA, Mississippi
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okay so an idea is forming what about Fey-touched elf whom worships everghtheen or whatever his name is i've forgotten atm.
and go 10 barb(fighter) 18bg 1rogue (at the end)
was hoping for epic fiend. that elven god that supports ce as an alignment. any thoughts on that or would the he be to against other elves i wouldn't think so though. he could be against everything that is not elven i suppose and smite paladins/ other goodies of non elven gods.
any thoughts?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 22:40 PM |
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Hey.
I wonder what the requirement of Hide and MS is to be able to Hisp Bosses?
100+ ?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 5:58 AM |
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I'm not going to tell you the stats on bosses and I will delete any post that does so.
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Jyro X
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 6:01 AM |
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Location: North Carolina (EST/GMT -5)
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I am looking to make a high-dmg monk of cyric and a warrior cleric of Eilistraee.
Does anyone have any build advice? Beginning and ending stats/skills and important feats would be greatly appreciated.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 6:06 AM |
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Monk of cyric = does not computer. Cyric is CE. MMonks are LAwful.
Warrior cleric of eilistraee is easy. 28 cleric, done! Ofg course of you want to powerbuild you can add a lot more to that... rogue, dabbles of CoT, bard, whatever.
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Jyro X
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 6:19 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: Monk of cyric = does not computer. Cyric is CE. MMonks are LAwful.
Warrior cleric of eilistraee is easy. 28 cleric, done! Ofg course of you want to powerbuild you can add a lot more to that... rogue, dabbles of CoT, bard, whatever. Is there a LE deity that a monk could fall under?
And yeah I'm looking for powerbuilds that would have some decent RP basis. Unique class combinations introduce some very good chances to stimulate RP imo. Given you don't use directly conflicting classes/deities.
Such as a PM who worships Selune or a Blackgaurd who worships Eilistraee or Tyr or something. Only Aribeth is allowed to do that. 
But yes, I stink at builds and I would enjoy being able to be effective in hunting parties... I would like to be a powerhouse for damage in either one of the roles (monk or cleric). _________________
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 6:43 AM |
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Quote: Is there a LE deity that a monk could fall under?
MasK, Loviatar, Helm, Bane, Hoar, Kelemvor, any Devil, Shar, Velsharoon, Red Knight
Mind not all of those are LE, some are LN and NE that allow NE worshippers, but yeah. Kossuth also has a LE monk order.
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Jyro X
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 7:30 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: Quote: Is there a LE deity that a monk could fall under? MasK, Loviatar, Helm, Bane, Hoar, Kelemvor, any Devil, Shar, Velsharoon, Red Knight Mind not all of those are LE, some are LN and NE that allow NE worshippers, but yeah. Kossuth also has a LE monk order. Mask seems like a good option. I have a bit of background with him. But wasn't he destroyed in the Time of Troubles? When he took the form of Godsbane and was broken in half? _________________
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 9:43 AM |
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Nope. He's still alive and kicking.
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Maias227
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Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 10:48 AM |
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Location: Denmark (GMT+1)
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TormakSaber wrote: Monk of cyric = does not computer. Cyric is CE. MMonks are LAwful.
Warrior cleric of eilistraee is easy. 28 cleric, done! Ofg course of you want to powerbuild you can add a lot more to that... rogue, dabbles of CoT, bard, whatever.
aha but there is actually monks of cyric about. Mostly converted banites who was lured by power or some such. It is possible just very rare.
Also Mask was indeed trapped within Godsbane for a time though he was freed when Kelemvor escaped the blade and killed Cyric. He lost a portofolio to Cyric though.
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Jehran
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 4:12 AM |
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I was wondering what the theoretical max number of self concealments that is possible on Amia...I've only gotten up to Self conceal 3 but that means no Epic Dodge.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 4:22 AM |
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"Don't bother because Imp Invis is easy to get" is your usual answer.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 5:46 AM |
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Location: London, UK
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Rebuild ideas for the great Rikkudai?
Formerly STR based
25 ranger
4 fighter
1 rogue
has dev crit and... some other stuff.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:02 AM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: Rebuild ideas for the great Rikkudai?
Formerly STR based
25 ranger
4 fighter
1 rogue
has dev crit and... some other stuff.
Weren't you going Grey Guard with him?
Paladin/Rogue, Paladin/Ftr/Rogue. That's all I got to contribute on this one. 
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ticket
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:02 AM |
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:02 AM |
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The rp was never completed and cant be because Kjetta is all gone and I've not seen tranny around forever.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:03 AM |
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ticket wrote: RDD/PM
you're a sick bastard ticket. _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:08 AM |
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ticket wrote: RDD/PM
You shall be cleansed, heretic! >_<
@Pigeon
I'd say go fighter/rogue. Get all the skills/feats etc you can. Become a tactical Jack-of-all-trades. Maybe even cornersneak, just go freakin' commando or the like.
Unless you're attached to that pig of yours haha
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ticket
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:08 AM |
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Ranger / BG or Pal or Cleric / Fighter or Rogue or Bard or monk
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 6:15 AM |
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ticket wrote: Ranger / BG or Pal or Cleric / Fighter or Rogue or Bard or monk
Hey, you left out or Sorc or Wiz or Barbarian lol
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009, 15:11 PM |
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Ranger 25 Fighter 4 Rogue 1
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jafman30
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Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2009, 3:05 AM |
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Alright, i'm making a parry master bard that sneaks as well. Looking at 23bard/7rogue, human. I'm mainly looking for alternative classes I could take that would still leave me with atleast 23 bard and that offers decent feats and/or damage. I want him to be a resourceful type of guy.
EDIT:: Dex based, weapon(s) to be chosen.
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Bobo_Underhill
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 3:21 AM |
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I'd limit it to three rogue, to be honest, mainly for uncanny dodge. Bard/Rogue just doesn't go together as well as you'd think. Too few of rogue and sneak damage will be subpar, too few bard and your spells/song are pathetic..
Maybe consider Bard 23/Fighter 4/Rogue 3? A dex-based bard'll have oodles of AC, but can't get around parry being fairly useless, without epic dodge or something. Give consideration to a handaxe as a weapon. Even though you won't crit as much, you'll do more damage on criticals, you can keen edge it and finesse it. Plus you have fighter levels for extra AC, HP and you can go after weapon spec if you'd like.
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Kjetta
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 3:23 AM |
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But parry screams rapier.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 7:07 AM |
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Only three parry builds that work.
Dev Critting Parry Bard.
Dev Critting Parry Paladin.
Dev Critting Parry Cleric.
Minimum AC requirement is 67 for parry to make you "Immune" to everything. Minimum Parry ranks is 80.
High AC wizards can also benefit because parry offers a further 5 AC bonus if your willing to invest 33 Ranks + Gear set to parry (Although Expertise is probably superior the fact that a natural 20 will still be parried puts parry far above expertise in my view).
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ticket
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 9:28 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote: Minimum AC requirement is 67 for parry to make you "Immune" to everything.
How come? 
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 12:40 PM |
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I've made a PvM Monster build, and i wonder if it' any decent.
First Number is the Class Level, Second Number is the Total Level.
Cleric/Monk/Ranger(Ranger for 1x Free Feat and Dual-Wield powers)
(Start)
STR 13
DEX 8(7)
CON 10
WIS 17(18)
INT 12
CHA 14
(end)
STR 13
DEX 7
CON 10
WIS 20
INT 12
CHA 22
RACE - MULAN
1Cleric 1 – Power attack, Divine Might
2Cleric 2 -
3Cleric 3 – Divine Wrath
4Cleric 4 - CHA+1(16)
5Cleric 5 -
6Cleric 6 – Blind Fight
7Cleric 7 -
8Cleric 8 - CHA+1(17)
9Cleric 9 – Extend Spell
10Cleric 10 -
11Cleric 11 -
12Cleric 12 - CHA+1(18) + Maximize spell
13Cleric 13 -
14Cleric 14 -
1Monk 15 – Wep.Focus.Kama
15Cleric 16 - CHA+1(19)
16Cleric 17 -
17Cleric 18 – Imp.Crit.Kama
18Cleric 19 -
19Cleric 20 - WIS +1(19) + Weapon Specalisation.Unarmed
20Cleric 21 – Great Charisma(20)
21Cleric 22 -
22Cleric 23 -
2Monk 24 - CHA+1(21) + Great Charisma(22)
23Cleric 25 – Great Wisdom(Extra Feat)
24Cleric 26 -
25Cleric 27 – Epic.Spell.Greater.Ruin
3Monk 28 - CHA +1(23)
1Ranger 29 – Epic.Wep.Focus.Kama
26Cleric 30 – Epic.Spell.Hellball + Armor Skin
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 13:03 PM |
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Monk AC is getting capped to level. So at most you'll get 3 AC.
I'd also like to know which Mulan/Untheric or Thayan diety you are using or if your just abusing the Human Subraces for the extra wisdom.
As far as I can see since uBAB doesn't work in plate the monk levels herein are completely superflous and would be better replaced with fighter levels or capped to 1 monk level for the Cleave and Evasion.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 13:41 PM |
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MoshingChris wrote: Monk AC is getting capped to level. So at most you'll get 3 AC.
I'd also like to know which Mulan/Untheric or Thayan diety you are using or if your just abusing the Human Subraces for the extra wisdom.
As far as I can see since uBAB doesn't work in plate the monk levels herein are completely superflous and would be better replaced with fighter levels or capped to 1 monk level for the Cleave and Evasion.
'Abusing' ?
And btw, you expect me to dig though pnp books about mulani dieties all of a sudden? Why should this toon be forced to play by your rules, when he could be anything i want... ::Narrow eyes::
The Mulani subrace favours Cleric, hence i took it since it favours Cleric. Only the cleric part
Cleric.
Cleric, did i say that?
Back on track - Allright, So the Monkac get's capped like "That", i was unsure how it was gonna be capped you see.
But it's quite worthless to pick any fighter levels, hence you got Extended Divine power. The divine power adds the fourth(4) attack per round, even tho you dont see it.
So...The best thing to do would be ...A dev.critting cleric? 20Wisdom and ...'something' dev.crit?
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Jyro X
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 14:26 PM |
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Can anyone hook me up with a sick powerhouse Tiefling barb build? I'll be going back through these pages to find one if I can to base my Tiefling off of.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 15:30 PM |
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Im totaly abandoning the Cleric/Monk powerhouse build btw.
But as i try a Dev.critting Cleric, i just CANNOT Get the stats to fit.
Either i end up with 25STR, and 20 Wisdom, or 26STR; and 19 Wisdom,
Or should i change tactic fully, and use a 20Cleric,8CoT,2monk(Monk to get tumble and Cleave and evasion), ?
Im lost.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 15:43 PM |
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Im intrested in the Blackguard when i come to think of it.
20Cleric, 10 Blackguard. Or 18Cleric/2monk/10BG,
18Cleric to get all the spells,(only need 19Wis)
10Blackguard for the pure awsomness
2Monk for "cleave" around the first levels, and tumbledump later.
I will have enought wisdom to use all the BG spells...But here's the problem.
I dont know how long the BG spells last, or even what they do?
For example - what's different from "darkness" and "Deeper darkness" ?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 16:03 PM |
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Seriously btw(is talking to himself)
Why should i rely on Dev.crit to whack stuff in PvM...
I could just rather make a 18Cleric/10BG/2monk that focuses on Charisma instead, right?
Would that be better prehaps?
Divine power, Maximized Bull's strenght and Wardomain will give ~25Strenght, MINIMUM.
If i have 14Base Strenght, i can get 26 Easily.
And then focus on getting 20 Wisdom, and ...like 24Charisma, right...Powerhouse with Divine might,Wrath,War domain, Extended Divine favour, and ...stuff...
Edit: Somebody slap me in the face. I cannot decide whenether to make a Blackguard Cleric(Charisma based), or a CoT-Cleric, (STR based)
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 16:13 PM |
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Quote: 'Abusing' ?
And btw, you expect me to dig though pnp books about mulani dieties all of a sudden? Why should this toon be forced to play by your rules, when he could be anything i want... ::Narrow eyes::
The Mulani subrace favours Cleric, hence i took it since it favours Cleric. Only the cleric part
Cleric.
Cleric, did i say that?
The hell? How about the part where the rules say "you RP your race". If you take Mulan, you are Mulan, and you need to get out of this topic until you figure out how to R Pwhat a Mulan is, LONG before you start doing a build.
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jafman30
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Posted: Sun, Dec 20 2009, 18:42 PM |
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Bard 23/fighter 4/ rogue 3 sounds good. Got a layout for me? I'm hoping to get (Skill wise) tumble (Obvious), perform (Obvious), Discipline (ObViOuS), Parry (OBVIOUS), Taunt (if possible), and points of 1 in stuff like spellcraft, appraise, craft weapon/armor, persuade (Maybe more for this'n. It's fun in RP), and bluff.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 8:53 AM |
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Well, You "Could" make a 25Bard, 5PurpleDragonknight.
They're both Cha Heavy Builds, and the Purple Dragon knight have 1/Level BaB progression. So... Having 5 Levels Pre-Epic get's you the 4:th attack.
Im not that sure about the PDK Class imo, but it sounds like a fun one.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 8:55 AM |
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Location: London, UK
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Pdk sucks... I have a one!  The only thing they get really worth the time (remember it cost lots of skill points and a feat is to get heroic shield +4 AC for a round at a time..... My bard is a favorite among WM's for this... I can give +20 to any persons effective AC... _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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swe_west_coast
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 8:57 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote: Minimum AC requirement is 67 for parry to make you "Immune" to everything.
Often I wonder how to get those über values of AC in Amia, like the 67 mentioned here. I have a level 29 pure ranger myself and I have serious problem surviving solo. With the best gear availible, I can't even come close. This is how he looks like:
Nude with dex 16 = AC 13
10p dexterity, 5p AC = AC 18 (due to the padded armor giving maximum +8 dexterity bonus)
+4 padded armor, 5p armor AC=AC 23
+4 cloak of fortification, 4p deflection AC = AC 27
+4 amulet of natural armor, 4p natural ac = AC 31
+4 shield of revealed darkness (tower shield), 7p shield AC = AC 38
Boots of the hunter, +4 dodge AC = 42
Tumble 7 = no extra AC from tumble (cross class skill, but with the dex of 26 = tumble 15, he won't be hit by attacks of opportunity)
No dodge feat = no extra ac
So, as long as he isn't flatfooted, he'll have AC 42, flatfooted he'll loose the ac from boots and dexterity, i.e. 12p down = AC 30 and I believe this happens as soon he get's swamped by enemies and they start to flank him and hit him from behind. It's a huge step to AC 67 which MoshingChris mentioned (67-42= 25 points?!)
There are no ordinary +5 items around, so I think I have gotten the most possible out of the build. Still, even the Brog dodos slaughter him due to low ac. The barbarians in Brog kill him so fast so I usually just manage to do a handful attacks before he's dead. The spire is doable solo, but takes a long time and cost a fortune in heal potions due to his far too low AC, same thing with the Brog wilderness. The question is how I should do to raise the AC without diluting the character with other classes. I want him to be pure. If the answer is "there is no way to do that", then it's the same as saying that Amia is a server for powerbuilders if you want to go to epic levels. The only reason that I have gotten this high level is the spire (solo or in parties I found there) and hunting beholders (very profitable even at level 29, aberration is a good choice of favoured enemy for epic rangers as long as I make the saves against death). All other epic areas, besides Yuan-Ti and Brog orcs if those are to be called epical, are impossible to solo with this pure ranger
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Maias227
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 9:15 AM |
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Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Location: Denmark (GMT+1)
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From that list a few things spring to mind, why not use cloth armour instead? No max dex bonus and you can easily find some very neato cloth armours. Then you can always put some more points in dex and more ac that way.
Otherwise amour skin, the epic feat, gives you +2 ac.
Whats your last level? You can alternative go rogue and go for the classic tumble dump.
Admittedly I have never had a ranger.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 9:18 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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Standard dexer AC:
10 + 14/15 (from dex mod) +4 (armor) +4 (deflect) +4 (natural) +5 (dodge) +2 (armor skin) +6 (tunmble) +1 (dodge Feat) = 51 AC/52 AC. +4 haste = 56, +1 mage armor = 57, Divine Shield can take that to 67 if you're charisma based, or bard song will get you there too and if you start finding +5 gear you'll break 70 AC. And that's not even including using a shield which is anywhere from +4 to +8 more AC depending.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 9:32 AM |
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Okay! Another idéa in the series of silly ones that i come up with, But this time i really desire to make a toon like this.
25Bard, 5Purple Dragon Knight. I will most probably RP the whole Purple Knight aspect to the max, Starting with a plain Human Race.(probably putting Cormyrian as Subrace)
...Um...All i can think of is ...to make him ...Dunno, A devcritter. Purple Dragon knight's aparently focus on Strenght and Charisma.
Any thoughts on the matter, or should i just throw myself into the water before checking for rocks?
Edit: I have one Extra Feat at level 24 Bard, should i pick Epic skill focus Preform prehaps?
Edit 2: Nvm, It added up. Took Lasting inspiration instead
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