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So, I found lurking deeply in my store's stock a FRCS, but it is 3.0 instead of 3.5. I would buy it, but it is too damn expensive even if I use my discount.

Before I decide to buy it, there are some things that I would like to know, if anyone can help me.

1) Was there ever a FRCS 3.5 or was 3.0 the only one and the Player's Guide to Faerûn made some adaptations/corrections to 3.0?

2) If there are both versions, is the difference between them only concerning game mechanics or does it involve changes in lore, too?

3) And, lastly, if there are changes in lore too, what exactly changed?

Thanks in advance!

There's some minor changes in the way spells work and something quite insignificant, if I recall right.

Amia's "officially" 3.0, btw.

Number 1. 3.5 was just a rules update, and its FR manifestation was Player's Guide to Faerûn, to the best of my knowledge. There certainly isn't a 3.5 FRCS.

Changes in lore happened only insofar as time moved on. As Ed has said: even if new versions come out with new info, it does not make the past disappear. It may be that some deity domains or rankings changed somewhere along the way, for example, but all of it applies as history. Demihuman Deities is just as valid and truthful as Faiths & Pantheons, the latter just includes some recent information that did not apply at the time of the former. Actual, crude retconning is actually quite rare, and can probably be glossed over or explained away in our game anyhow. We're mainly in keeping with the FRCS on Amia, barring the natural course of history as presented in the Amia timeline.

Iron's right - Player's Guide to Faerun is just a general rules update for FRCS also superseding rules from a couple of other books. You don't need FRCS to play if you have this, but it does recommend it. Other than that, changes to lore were fairly minor between 3.0 & 3.5.

One thing does come to mind, not as an outright lore change, but as an addition/clarification: when the concept of "regions" was added, the list of languages spoken in specific regions was updated/presented for the first time in such a scale, in the PGtF.

I was in doubt because I saw, for instance, that the PrC Divine Crusader is different in both FR Player's Guide to Faerûn and D&D Core Complete Divine.

In Amia's case, it is probably obvious, but I will ask anyway: it will be valid what is within FRPGtF, right?

As usual, I am mostly nitpicking because I do not want to add in the tales I have been writing anything that would/could be inconsistent with Amia's current time and setting.

I wouldn't call PrC details "lore." If you want to RP a 2e Crusader kit, be my guest. In these matters, anything goes within reason.

Shouldn't be a problem. As far as I can see the PGtF only goes up to the end of 1372 DR, and Amia doesn't differ from canon FR until the start of 1374.

IronAngel wrote:

I wouldn't call PrC details "lore." If you want to RP a 2e Crusader kit, be my guest. In these matters, anything goes within reason.

It is because in Complete Divine it says that in the... 10th level, the Crusader becomes an Outsider, but there is no such mention into PGtF.

AFAIK Complete Divine isn't FR, so whatever an FR books says automatically overrules the non-FR

And moreover: such is not part of the Divine Champion PrC in NWN, so it seems pretty irrelevant. "Becoming outsider" sounds like a silly bit of 3e nonsense anyhow.

Hag Countess doesent rule Malabolge though?

Nope, that's Glasya now (we're using 3.5 for that, or that's the response I got when I asked a DM).

Yes, Glasya rules Malebolge in Amian cosmology.

I think the rule of thumb is that if it happened before 1374 DR, it's in Amia.

For best results, read the Grand History of the Amian Realms, but yeah, 1373 and earlier is going to be canon realms. Anything after the year of Rogue Dragons, refer to our topic. I.e. all Drow deities are still alive, Myth Drannor isn't restored, etc.

Here's a link for those who can't be bothered searching.

Edit: I closed the tag myself, Mr. Forum, I don't need you to do it too.

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