I answered your PM and we can continue our discussion there.
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In terms of soloing to 30 in a week, from the new player perspective it doesn't seem possible. Goblins spawn in groups of 5-6, same with kobolds, mostly sewers also seem close to the same. That been said I'm sure veterans know which classes/areas will let them solo to 30 in a very short span of time.
Fair enough, that's a valid point.
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Some people prefer to play higher level characters and have a clearly developed idea of what they want to do when they get there. To me having a lower level character on a server of mostly 30s is not fun.
ON an RP server that starts you off at level 3, I don't think it's too much to ask that you RP on your way to 30 and develop the PC at you go. PCs weren't born at 30, after all, even the "mostly 30's" on the server today.
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Yes, and every time you circumvent your ban, you lessen your chances of ever coming back. Which are alreayd pretty slim considering what you've done and said to all of us. Not removing you from the forums is nothing more than a courtesy. Don't abuse it.
I must admit it's down to a game at this point. Anyone who has info on Halfer's current game accounts, if any, and forwards it to the DMs has our thanks, because he constantly circumvents bans.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
Nobody with any sense would want to level from 3 to 30 in a week. What the hell is the point in missing all the content, missing out on fun interactions with party members and random passers-by, missing out on character development, just to get to the end of teh road and then try and figure out what it was all for?
Evidently the point is so that you can be a miserable loner with no real idea who their character is, never mind anyone else's.
This is true for the first few characters I made. Now, though, I know the spawns and areas well enough that, unless I bump into someone who likes to take the leveling slow, and whom I enjoy leveling with, I'll do my best to blaze right through to 30. Mind, I hate grinding, so often I'll end up RPing instead of leveling at all, since 30 is just the highest level, and thus the level needed to survive, in most cases, when my character pisses someone off.
I'll say this, though, leveling on Amia is not hard. Spawns aren't hard. Unless you're horrible at building, and I'm walking wisdom based pure fighter here, with 8 strength, you should be able to solo your way to 30, even though it won't be easy, either.
(EDIT: And also, I should remember to check the last page before posting, too!)
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Thanks for the PM, it resolved alot of my concerns with regards to RP Events. As for leveling, it would be really great to have some of these easier solo areas posted in new player tips. Partying is always faster due to how the xp system is set up...but finding competent parties in your level range can be difficult - not many use the party finder tool that I can see.
Okay well, from my point of view it just seems like there are a number of players who don't take the time to get to know someone who could be a useful ally and help them get to their goal, but it won't happen if they ignite afterburners and zoom out of level range.
As a result, some players with party-friendly characters are marooned for months on end without a party to be had, because every party they meet is interested in doing very little RP and lots of levelling.
In that situation it's hardly surprising that I spend my time on the solo-friendlier LOTRO. True, I don't run into many roleplayers there, but then there is an abundance of players on Amia who could roleplay but they choose not to.
I don't care what anyone's excuse for quickly getting to 30 is, it's never justifies sidelining the players who would like to help, but can't because someone has made it a mission to set a new personal speed record.
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I don't care what anyone's excuse for quickly getting to 30 is...
I got to level 18 with my old Paladin because he is just so wickedly awsome and Paladin's are awsome and women druel all over them because of their wicked Charisma and ultra dashing figure that's controlling them. How's that?
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I don't care what anyone's excuse for quickly getting to 30 is, it's never justifies sidelining the players who would like to help, but can't because someone has made it a mission to set a new personal speed record.
Well with the introduction of the Job System a person can get to 30 without ever hunting. So what's your take on those that get to 30 fast using the Job System?
So what's your take on those that get to 30 fast using the Job System?
At least if they're selling stuff to the system now and then (I'm assuming here that they don't have time to seek other PCs out and trade with them), useful stock that my PCs need for their jobs would be available. Also, there's nothing to say that they couldn't be getting help in the same way from me, however indirectly.
Another thing with the job system is that PCs of widely varying levels can participate at the same time, and can each be useful in some way. They can even work together with a common goal.
It's too bad that in hunting, working together typically means that you try to figure out what the others in your party are doing, but in the end you're just a bunch of individuals muddling through and most of the time trying to keep up with brainless fighter dude who is trying really hard to be the Fastest Man Alive.
My point is, you can get to 30 without being a complete waste of space. If you don't, then fat chance of getting any help when you actually need it.
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Okay well, from my point of view it just seems like there are a number of players who don't take the time to get to know someone who could be a useful ally and help them get to their goal, but it won't happen if they ignite afterburners and zoom out of level range.
As a result, some players with party-friendly characters are marooned for months on end without a party to be had, because every party they meet is interested in doing very little RP and lots of levelling.
In that situation it's hardly surprising that I spend my time on the solo-friendlier LOTRO. True, I don't run into many roleplayers there, but then there is an abundance of players on Amia who could roleplay but they choose not to.
I don't care what anyone's excuse for quickly getting to 30 is, it's never justifies sidelining the players who would like to help, but can't because someone has made it a mission to set a new personal speed record.
This is SO true happens to all my Characters...but they are always decked out with the best loot drops because they are alone ...but I would still prefer RP hunting with people, instead of occasionally coming across a PB party who I have to party up with because I can't level up often otherwise.
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I got to level 18 with my old Paladin because he is just so wickedly awsome and Paladin's are awsome and women druel all over them because of their wicked Charisma and ultra dashing figure that's controlling them. How's that?
*hates Paladins with a vengeance*
*stabity stab, stab, hellball, EDK, greater Ruin, ....ray of frost, ray of frost, ray of FROST!! * how's that ya darned ego maniacal Paladin!?
Yeah but think about it, levelling up is a two-edged sword. On the one hand you get extra hitpoints, more skillpoints, a stat increase now and then, and if you're lucky some featly goodness.
But everything you fight will now give you less XP than it did a level ago. In other words if you are already struggling with the gear, spells and lunatics at your current level, you'll have even more of a struggle next level unless you have new equipment to use, new spells to blast your enemies to smithereens with, and.... well, two out of three possibilities ain't bad.
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Okay I've been waiting kinda to see where this thread went. First, in regards to those talking about cliches and what not.. spread out a bit, in regards to the RP. There's a lot of places other then Cordor / Wiltun, and all of them have people who would love to RP with the new players.
Tarkuul, for instance, is very open, but as open as we can be provided the framework we =must= operate in, considering the circumstances and environment.
I think there's a couple things I've learned from this thread so far:
1.) If in doubt, ask a DM.
2.) If in doubt, screenshot.
3.) If in doubt, don't do it until you do # 1.
Yea, it can be inconvenient, yes, I know.. but regardless of what / when / why... you *pointing to whomever has been busted for twinking / muling*
made the decision to give a belt, or a ring, or whatever to that faction member / party member / OOC bf or gf. The fact that you didn't think about it shows, bottom line, a lack of awareness on your part. I'm not trying to be rude, or insulting, just calling it straight away as it is.
If people would handle it like a mature adult, deal with the consqequences, and then use it to show the DM's you've learned and assist in spreading that information to others, that would be the best route IMHO. Help others, pass along what you learned, albeit it was a hard lesson, sure... but you learned.
A lot like life, sometimes, you know?
In the almost 5 years I've been here, I've only seen a few players who got busted for breaking those rules leave permantently, and Tormak is absolutely right, that was their own decision.
I'll use myself as an example, because it puts into action what I was saying up there *points to his second paragraph after #3 in this reply*.. not only did I not leave when I encountered my little ... vacation.. but I came back and did what I felt was necessary to try and =show= the DM / Admin team I had genuinely felt bad for the issue, and wanted to make up for it.
Did that work? Hell no, there's some DM's to this day that admit they still consider that an issue for them. Did I "do the time"? Sure did. Do I blame those DM's? Well, sometimes honestly. But the point was made to me that "punishment does not equal forgiveness."
Do I care? Sure do...because I want forgiveness. What can I do about it?
Nothing except continue to do what I am doing, secure in the knowledge I'm doing what I feel is right and trying to make things as right as I can. I don't break any rules, I don't metagame, and I try to do my best to contribute to the server in a positive manner.
Of course sometimes I get a little carried away in the forums, but that's because I'm just a user here, not an admin. I can actually let loose a bit here, as opposed to the numerous other forums and gaming stuff I run. Not an excuse, but a reason.
Just my two pence, take it or leave it.
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I break rules. But I only break them when it is detrimental to the development of RP.
For example... I played a dumb half-orc; he killed anything that he thought was a threat. He came across a human, with a wraith summon, fighting a bunch of Lycanthropes. He charged in, without thinking, to save the person and killed his Wraith as well - for he believed it to be a threat.
This person chucked up a stink about it and contacted DMs... I got pissed off because he cried and whinged like a dumb-arse child and couldn't take the RP for what it was - an oppurtunity for RP. Then I had to justify to this DM my actions and the reasonings for them.
I got a slap on the wrist, sure - doesn't mean I felt any guilt for my actions or recoiled from the effective discernment from the DM team.
Rules are placed to deter from abuse and exploitation, and primarily to keep order and balance. That, however, doesn't stop you from tweaking that order for your own benefit. Ultimately it's up to you, and if you want to face the consequences of doing that, then do it.
On the matter of twinking... Meh - there's ways around that. But what your PC doesn't have, and what your PC doesn't know is available... Your PC shouldn't have: that's simple enough.
I don't necessarily see the point to this thread other than the reiteration of the rules.
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Hey Tormak, you contradicted yourself again. Poeple that can't make up thier minds drive me crazy. In light of that, I hope you have a little more insight as to why I didn't honor it in the first place. Its only fair the other players whom you seek to employ for your manhunt know why I wont play your stupid game. Oh btw, I DMed for you twice now since the first ban. Good hunting.
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I don't know you, but I think you should look for some other server or game to spend your free time with. What point is there in finding ways to avoid your ban to spoil the fun of players or a DM?
Hey Tormak, you contradicted yourself again. Poeple that can't make up thier minds drive me crazy. In light of that, I hope you have a little more insight as to why I didn't honor it in the first place. Its only fair the other players whom you seek to employ for your manhunt know why I wont play your stupid game. Oh btw, I DMed for you twice now since the first ban. Good hunting.
You didn't honor it since the first dayyou got banned, and that had nothing to do with me as a DM, considering it was an entirely different DM that banned you.
You haven't DMed for us, and all you did was threaten to "Hack the game, the forums and everyone on it." Then you crawled back to us some months later begging to be unbanned saying "I don't possibly know enough to hack anythin, I can't believe you took me seriously, it was a jjoke, please unban me." You got more and more desperate, contacting DM after DM each time, and each time we banned you.
Now you're just being beligerent. Go away. You're not getting unbanned, and yes, I do consider it "Good hunting".
My offer stands regarding any info pertianing to Halfer's in game status.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
When I forwarded requests to your staff they either ignored it or neglected to fill me in on the decision. Of course I'd type crap your dms might want to hear just so you'd unban me. An indefinite ban? Players have done much worse then I have and still come back to DM for you. Maybe it's because I wasn't part of your little circle jerks or child pornography? I couldn't care less if you unban me at this point, it's not like I'm going anywhere.
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You're hilarious, dude. Circle jerks? oh lawd, iz dat sum CP?
Please, keep going. You're just making yourself look like an incredible jackass to everyone else here, and only reaffirming that we made the right decision.
I'm glad you don't care, because we're not unbanning you. You have a special place in our hearts, right down there with Zante, in our lowest circle of Hellban.
And I've never spent money on any server, so like the rest of your post, it's just random ass-talking. Cheers!
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
Similar posts have been made on/about another server I play now and then like the above, except rather than on their forums on an advertisement page for the server.
They even came out with a few random things like above, but never quite went as far as the "child pornography" thing.
If I were you, I'd quit while I was ahead, you obviously aren't getting anywhere fast with slandering the server with obvious lies. Best thing to do is just move on and maybe join another server.
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HartOfDarkness..... I'd say to you 'get some help', seriously. There is definately something wrong with your behaviour, and it will bring you down in the end, and not just internet bans and such.
When I forwarded requests to your staff they either ignored it or neglected to fill me in on the decision. Of course I'd type crap your dms might want to hear just so you'd unban me. An indefinite ban? Players have done much worse then I have and still come back to DM for you. Maybe it's because I wasn't part of your little circle jerks or child pornography? I couldn't care less if you unban me at this point, it's not like I'm going anywhere.
This is why I keep checking in. I wanna see how daft he can sound in his next message! Child pornography? Really? I am old enough to be sending Cobbit shots of me in my, albeit tiny but very much existing wrestling outfit, you know.
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I guess it's a good time to tell Hart0fDarkness that we got some serious restrictions on DM access on the server, just figuring out a password and logging in won't do. Of course, there's a slight chance that he has a new personality, new CD key and new IP and all and managed to pass the DM recruitment screening... but if that was the case, there would be no need to try to access the server with the banned alt accounts (and get caught, again) and post these "threats" on the forums, now would there?
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happens to all my Characters...but they are always decked out with the best loot drops because they are alone 
...but I would still prefer RP hunting with people, instead of occasionally coming across a PB party who I have to party up with because I can't level up often otherwise.
Child pornography? Really? I am old enough to be sending Cobbit shots of me in my, albeit tiny but very much existing wrestling outfit, you know.
