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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 8:17 AM 

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== 2nd Draft == (Tidied up a little of my mess.)

The "Seekers" and the "Society of Antiquaries of Cordor" are considering a collaboration. (For information on seekers, see here. For the S.O.A, see here)

If you're a member of any of these or are hoping to become a member but unsure OOCly what's what and need answers, post here and discuss where you wish to take these ideas.

The hope is to amalgamate academic job influenced RP along with characters documenting lager base of contemporary-historical events.

What some of us have noticed and discussed in game ICly and OOCly is that there will be rewards, in terms of RP and Story, if we consolidate varying groups and individuals that have similar ideals (I know I'm being vague so far on what these "ideals" are. This is on purpose, as we'd like to find out what common goals we can work on and discuss OOCly to increase the chance of in-game RP).

So, what are people's thoughts?
Would individuals like to join any of the current groups?
What are the current groups?
Would you recommend these groups to get along together?
Who is already in these groups or who works alone?
Would you consider making a character for the purpose of this sort of in-game academics?
Would you consider unarchiving an old character if the opportunity to RP more around these subjects if the opportunities are available?

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 8:20 AM 

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 8:26 AM 

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hendrack wrote:
:?:


I know . .. I wrote it and even I am a little unsure what the pike I'm talking about.

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 8:38 AM 

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So, what are people's thoughts?

Too many factions on Amia, consolidation, alliancing, amalgamating is always good.

Would individuals like to join any of the current groups?

Dunno, illithira is an archaeologist, so maybe some loose affiliation. She'd be happy to supply job system artifacts for you all. :D

What are the current groups?

Oghmanytes, Mystrans likely candidates for joining together into a larger force.

Would you recommend these groups to get along together?

Sure, why not?

Who is already in these groups or who works alone?

Dunno, Iron and Koragi are likely the first people to speak to.

Would you consider making a character for the purpose of this sort of in-game academics?

Nope. I have my illiterate ghostwise hin now, I don't need anything else!

Would you consider unarchiving an old character if the opportunity to RP more around these subjects if the opportunities are available?

Nup, I've just ditched a load of PCs, even ones I spent good DCs on. I'm trying to cut back!

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 8:43 AM 

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Archaeology is quite high up on the priorities of my own in game "society". Not only is it the job that will supply all the job-related artifacts, it would also hold much knowledge and experience in the field of a broad range of history. Be it rituals, artwork, beliefs of past settlements/civilizations.

So, Illithira would be definitely someone I'd like to snatch up.

I've also spoken with Iron in game before hand about this, and this whole subject is thanks to our discussion. I'm just too much of a rambler to make much coherent sense. (See Original Post).

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 10:23 AM 

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Haha, this first post is really nonsensical! :D

Seekers, report here!

But yeah, bottom line:

Sephira's Antiquaries have very similar goals to Seekers, the faction a few of us started initiallly around the Orthodox Church of Oghma.

I figured our two groups would work together to form one pseudo-faction, initially with seperate organization or something. Sort of like a "two for the price of one" deal. To make things more complicated, I also run the Orthodox Church of Oghma within this religiously neutral society. We aim to be something like Freemasons, but the mission statement and hierarchy is very vague: we can do what people want to do. Just join in and present your ideas. I also want to be non-exclusive: you can be a member of other factions, you can be as loosely or closely associated as you want, you can work for both the Antiquaries and the Seekers, or just one.

Basically, Amia has a limited number of players, so we wanted these two very similar groups to work together to achieve the critical mass that keeps things going. We also don't want to exclude people in other factions, because Amia really doesn't need more cliques. If anything, I'd like to bridge the gap between factions and make individuals work together.

So: do you want to join our society? What do you want to do? Do you have any ideas?

I'm on a pointless lecture right now, so I can't be bothered to write more and better, now. But yeah: let us know if you want anything to do with us, and those of the Seekers who still intend to be active, do report here.

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Thu, Sep 24 2009, 10:32 AM 

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IronAngel wrote:
Haha, this first post is really nonsensical! :D


Blame sleep deprivation. That's what I'll be doing.

But yes, Iron, you've explained it justly. I have nothing more to add to that just yet. But I will once I've gathered my thoughts and organised them more thoroughly.

Edit: I've just changed some of the original post. Hopefully it's a little more coherent and informative.

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 6:20 AM 

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Illithira is primarily an "Artifact Hunter", she'd probably like to be involved, but she's too much of a lone wolf to join the faction. Does that make sense? She would sort of fit somewhere between the researcher mob (Seekers/Antiquaries) and the Amian traders I guess. A Master Archaeologist, a scout able to get most places, a wilderness frontier lady, off to far flung exotic locales in search of a good ruin to plunde---err...I mean, discover!

She's not really one for stuffy classrooms and academic debates, but definitely the ideal person to get you what -you- need. :D A snow elf "Indiana Jones" I guess!

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 7:41 AM 

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Well, I'm interested.
My main characters Vastando Fernwood, he's the one I'm interesting in joining with you.

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 9:46 AM 

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I'll keep an eye out for Vastando in game. What sort of group would Vastando be geared toward, out of interest? More Seeker-side? Or more Antiquarian?

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 11:33 AM 

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Would you like to create more books for the Job System, btw? The current ones without a description can also use some love. Mind the word 'short', btw.

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 11:44 AM 

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I can write some if you'd like.

One of the one's I was thinking was one for the Linguist job (Even though I don't have anyone that has it). Ettins are very interesting and have a notable dialect.

Created when using the job log on an Ettin and uses a page.

Shall I PM you a title and a paragraph outlining what has been noted?

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 11:44 AM 

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Oh man I had a scare moment. I thought someone had found one of my PC's city info about 'Seekers'. *coughs* Which is kind of akin to Xavi's line of work more so than a librarian/archaeologist angle.

Though yes, consolidating groups with like minds sounds awesome. It really and truly does! Would this also include a few cases of gathering together rural folklore or just mainly be situated around cities and the like?


 
      
AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 11:46 AM 

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colanah wrote:
Would this also include a few cases of gathering together rural folklore or just mainly be situated around cities and the like?


Yes, it would include rural folk lore if a character/player was willing to gather/scribe/publish it.

Of course it's not confined to just literature.

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 13:43 PM 

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On my side of things, the Seekers are very vague. If you think you'd fit in and have some idea about what you want to do, just go ahead.

I guess we have some main beliefs: we like to do good, but we're also rather neutral. Or, to put it better: we're civilized, both in behaviour and education. Extremism may fit in if you're smart and civilized about it, but the current members don't generally condone stuff like necromancy, murder or lack of personal hygiene. ;)

I can imagine some members taking ranger-like roles: escoring people around the island, gathering lore on the road, mapping the wilderness, protecting civilization from the wild (and wild from the civilization, if necessary), while others might go for politics and diplomacy, openly or secretly getting into governments and factions to observe or influence things, and some could focus on charity work, aiding the poor, teaching the children how to read, helping villagers develop better farming technology and such. There's room for mystics and religious philosophers too, using the Seekers as a platform to do missionary work from or to practice the worship of Oghma, Deneir, Milil, Gond, Azuth, Savras, Mystra, Tymora, Shaundakul and whoever. Most of us are artists and/or scholars, though, and thus very much dedicated to the same goals as the Antiquaries. Hence the cooperation and possible future fusion.

We're not all this, but we could be. So if there's anything you want to do, there's probably room for it in the Seekers. My vision is something between Freemasons (with perhaps less secrecy and hierarchy), Harpers (with perhaps less action) and an academic society (except that we're cool adventurers)!

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 14:15 PM 

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I shall take this opportunity to describe the Society of Antiquaries of Cordor (For those that haven't been following the IC notices). Hopefully the similarities and the differences with the Seekers will be evident, as to help people choose where they'd feel more fitting.

First off, the "Antiquarians" or "S.A.C" are a highly structure hub of information. They aim to centralise as much history, genealogy, arts and texts as possible with the goal of freedom of pure reference.

The aims aren't strictly dogmatic in a religious way, however Oghma and Milil are major contributing factors.

Academia is a possible direction to take the "faction" meaning that courses will eventually become available to train (for free) in a vast array of subjects and schools of thought. Though reference and documentation is paramount.

The society structure is, like the seekers, quite influenced by, say, freemasons, though the S.A.C are not a secret organisation (That's not to say that there will be no secret society within the open society, as some subjects will not be necessarily legal in Cordor or have perhaps a freedom of practice).

The main focus is of preservation of things of the past (hence "Antiquarian") and as such history is, in a sense, the currency of the society. History influences the present so what better way to understand today and tomorrow than a complete understanding of the previous day.

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 25 2009, 17:55 PM 

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Vastando's probably more on the Seekers side if I've read all the stuff right. Currently he's not in any factions, and generaly has a stern policy of neutrality so this would be one of the only factions he'd be willing to join.

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Sun, Sep 27 2009, 10:59 AM 

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Here's proposed model of whatever it'd be if it was all joined up.

The Governing Body - made up of representatives of each group and individual. All main important "faction" maintenance will be done via meetings between these people.

The Seekers - Gathers of knowledge in the most raw form. These free roamers are also important in the area of diplomacy and keeping good relations with potential allies as well as the individual groups within the main umbrella of sub divisions.

The Antiquarians - Once lore is gathered, all official distributions of text gets created by these. The Antiquarians are responsible for reproduction of texts as well as the study of historical events and figures of Amia and related islands.

Freelancers - Individuals that contribute a large amount of their time with the other groups.

******** - Shhhhh. I can't tell you about this group yet.

[more to be announced in time]

Notes:

People from each group are encouraged to work closely with or in other groups. It will be possible for a Seeker to also be an Antiquarian, for example.

One other use for the Antiquarians (The curators department within the antiquarians) is that they will accept donated artifacts from the job system. As there's no artifact merchant NPC (that I know of) all unwanted artifacts can be used by us either for the use (job system) of characters within the groups with relevant jobs (Say, a thanatologist after "weird statues", or arcanist looking for "ancient scrolls". It saves them having to take 1 rank of archaeology just to have access to a particular resource), or for the RP study of objects and museum pieces.


What's everyone's opinion on this model? What would any other groups like to add?

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AlphaWaves
 
PostPosted: Thu, Oct 01 2009, 9:39 AM 

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Groundwork for the Antiquarians is definitely making me feel positive about the faction's future.

Structure seems well defined and I think that it keeps things in check and will be the skeleton that keeps it in shape and will prevent it from slipping into a disorganised mess that will ultimately fall apart or dissolve.

What about the other groups that are around?

Seekers, how are things your end?

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PostPosted: Fri, Oct 02 2009, 16:16 PM 

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Doesn't seem like any of us reported here. Oh well.

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Sorry I hadn't posted in here. For what he can offer Warrick will lend a hand to the Antiquarians. ^_^


 
      
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The Seekers part would work...however a seeker would also make further studies on the gathered "raw knowledge".


 
      
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I'll figure out Indiana Jones's build, and then maybe? :op

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