All child pcs of the ages of 10 - 14 should be brought to the kelemvorite church. Then we can use them for what they were intended, infantry and cannonfodder!
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I actually thought the only real plot relevant role child PCS can obtain is supplying an opportunity for evil PCs to show their highly immoral standards.
Indeed, and since violence involving children is probably going to be too graphic for Amia, why have them around at all?
Because we're not afraid to showcase how much of an evil bastard Evil can be. Welcome to your gritty fantasy world, enjoy your stay.
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TormakSaber wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
ClockworkRed wrote:
I actually thought the only real plot relevant role child PCS can obtain is supplying an opportunity for evil PCs to show their highly immoral standards.
Indeed, and since violence involving children is probably going to be too graphic for Amia, why have them around at all?
Because we're not afraid to showcase how much of an evil bastard Evil can be. Welcome to your gritty fantasy world, enjoy your stay.
But as soon as you do this, you get chased around by there Uber-parents, there Uber-parents Uber-friends, and the League of Uber-children.
also, why is it that every other female character is pregnant? they're like big flashy signs that says "Evil character bait"!
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Agreed with WonWon about Elf aging. Also, Elven races don't max out at a thousand years of age. They're considered quiet old by 350. An Elven being is considered "Adult" by 110. I would imagine that only is in reference to Elven life span and not necessarily physical or mental maturity. Again, because, as WonWon said, it just doesn't make sense that they would remain infants and children for so damn long. That's just ridiculous and they'd probably be an extinct race.
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Agreed with WonWon about Elf aging. Also, Elven races don't max out at a thousand years of age. They're considered quiet old by 350. An Elven being is considered "Adult" by 110. I would imagine that only is in reference to Elven life span and not necessarily physical or mental maturity. Again, because, as WonWon said, it just doesn't make sense that they would remain infants and children for so damn long. That's just ridiculous and they'd probably be an extinct race.
I am inclined to agree with this point. I view the 110 years of 'adulthood' to be viewed as 'cultural maturity' - that is, after 110 years, the elves recognise that you understand your own heritage, way of life and culture.
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Copy and pasted from Wikipedia, though it seems about correct. Except for a couple of other things which I edited.
In the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, elves are a fictional humanoid race that is one of the primary races available for play as player characters. Elves are renowned for their grace and mastery of magic and weapons such as the sword and bow. Becoming physically mature by the age of 25 and emotionally mature at around 125, they are also famously long-lived, capable of living more than 400 years and remaining physically youthful. They rarely die due to the wear of age.
Becoming physically mature by the age of 25 and emotionally mature at around 125[...]
Imagine that, over 100 years of the hell humans have to suffer for about 10 years. They might not get acne or greasy hair after the first 10-15 years, but they'll be going through all that teenage emotional chaos for longer than the average human lives.
I'd think an elf by the age of 20 would be physically and mentally equal to a human of the same age, so fully matured, but would still be below the wisdom of someone who lived for a few centuries already.
It's just that other elves would not consider them adults until they got at least 100 hundred years of experience. So elves not becoming adults until 70 is more of a social thing than about actual maturity. Or rather, they would be as mature as a human 20 year old, but still imature compared to a 500 year olf elf.
I'd think an elf by the age of 20 would be physically and mentally equal to a human of the same age, so fully matured, but would still be below the wisdom of someone who lived for a few centuries already.
It's just that other elves would not consider them adults until they got at least 100 hundred years of experience. So elves not becoming adults until 70 is more of a social thing than about actual maturity. Or rather, they would be as mature as a human 20 year old, but still imature compared to a 500 year olf elf.
umm..no
elves do not mature mentally for ages...it says so clearly in the elf handbooks through every single edition..humans at the age of 25 are WAY more mature than a 25 year old elf..they act like children..cause they are children..drow mature quicker..i think its around 70 they get around to being adults, but thats because of a extremely harsh lifestyle..and evne then, they dont mature as fast as humans. humans are masters of adaption and grow quickly to adulthood..elves dont.
and as for elves being wiser..no to that too..check the stats modifications..a old human is just as wise as a old elf, because the human learns faster than the elf does...granted the elf might experience more things, but he is not mentally superior to humans...unless they are sun elves who have that genetic marker...drows too..
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TormakSaber wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
ClockworkRed wrote:
I actually thought the only real plot relevant role child PCS can obtain is supplying an opportunity for evil PCs to show their highly immoral standards.
Indeed, and since violence involving children is probably going to be too graphic for Amia, why have them around at all?
Because we're not afraid to showcase how much of an evil bastard Evil can be. Welcome to your gritty fantasy world, enjoy your stay.
Can't say I'm unhappy if you put it that way.
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I actually would welcome child pcs in the kelemvorite faith. For instance orphans raised by the clergy is something I wouldnt mind at all, but it goes without saying that they shouldnt be high levels, run around outside Nes'ek and so on. We have a child npc, our little choir boy and the types like him could add a lot to the atmosphere.
Pages for the knightly factions like the Defenders of Kohlingen or the Triadic Knights is something I wouldnt mind seeing either. Young people that have to clean the armor of their lord, get them their wine with an occasional kick if they are not up to slack.
Then you have squires who are typically age 11 up, also something that I wouldnt be opposed to, but then again those in my mind shouldnt be more than level 10s. Young elves who only stay in Winya at their age could be something fun too, but most child characters are brats, little rebells who argue with their elders which is kind of a mood killer.
I could even imagine a child pc orphan, a level 2 sorcerer who cant control her power at all (not meaning "accidentally" casting on everyone in cordor, but little things like dinner plates shaking if shes angry, etc), and is hence locked up in Mystra's tower for her and the publics safety who is taught to control the powers she cant understand.
In my opinion it soley depends on the quality of the rp. I get an ill stomach feeling from many child pcs just like I get when I see a druid defending a dark necromancer or a paladin being friends with a mass murdering tiefling, or a "respectable" wizard throwing around spells and casting wasteful hastes for fun on bystanders like if they didnt care of the sanctity of the weave. But that may just be me.
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Phearnun wrote:
I actually would welcome child pcs in the kelemvorite faith. For instance orphans raised by the clergy is something I wouldnt mind at all, but it goes without saying that they shouldnt be high levels, run around outside Nes'ek and so on. We have a child npc, our little choir boy and the types like him could add a lot to the atmosphere.
Pages for the knightly factions like the Defenders of Kohlingen or the Triadic Knights is something I wouldnt mind seeing either. Young people that have to clean the armor of their lord, get them their wine with an occasional kick if they are not up to slack.
Then you have squires who are typically age 11 up, also something that I wouldnt be opposed to, but then again those in my mind shouldnt be more than level 10s. Young elves who only stay in Winya at their age could be something fun too, but most child characters are brats, little rebells who argue with their elders which is kind of a mood killer.
I could even imagine a child pc orphan, a level 2 sorcerer who cant control her power at all (not meaning "accidentally" casting on everyone in cordor, but little things like dinner plates shaking if shes angry, etc), and is hence locked up in Mystra's tower for her and the publics safety who is taught to control the powers she cant understand.
All great examples of good back-story, Child prodigies aren’t really prodigies in Amia though since it’s a common thing, Down with children I say. (of course the same argument can go towards Aasimar’s, Tiefling’s, Half dragons and Dragon disciples to name a few, commonness has taken away the special)
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I have experienced some great role play involving child PC's.
An elder wizard expected to look after a young Jalil,(female drow). For example,summoning creatures for her to see for the first time.Reading stories,(created mostly on the spot) of far away battles and journeys through the planes. Dealing with her arrogant and haughty manner when she decides to be difficult (a regular occurrence.)
Each race and culture has generally understood patterns of conduct. this doesn't mean nothing out of character ever happens. I spent most of an hour once allowing the terrible whelp to chase my wizard morfed' into a penguin, evilly thwacking it with a whip... feigning terror before shape changing into a large Gollum and scaring her half to death... and getting soundly dressed down later from a Yath because of it. Just a few examples.
I think child PC's are an opportunity and challenge to Rp.
The trick, is good Rp.
Nuff' said.
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I couldn’t agree with you more there oldppdungeonmaster. Perhaps to play a child PC you should need DM approval so they can insurfe the person can RP such a hard character to RP.
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I think this topic has gone pretty much as far as it can, just like all the other topics on child PC's. Bottom line, they are discouraged and anything over level 2 is LAME!!
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