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Oh please, everyone of you have done it before. Atleast Tormak had the nuts to manup and say it.
And yes, there's times I make the post "Somewhere in Tarkuul, a lich laughs" and you know why?
Because it's true. Because it's what happened once Frey's heard of some of the shit people put on paper and say. And because it makes me happy, and I'm not in ANY WAY taking away from the original posters intent, meaning or objective, unlike the rest of you PC policemen. Because it's a way for me to contribute to the thread in some form without detracting from it.
I mean, I NEVER see anyone ripping down notices in RL. Dunno, guess I live in a section of the world thats a bit more tolerant....
I'm with the printing press in the back pocket crowd, FFS people it's not "witty challenge HEHEHE I'll show the world my awesomeness and /PWN this guy in the forums HE HE HE".
Give a little, let the other people enjoy their RP and their Forum posts. Otherwise remove the goddamn auctions and remove the IG story posts too, and be sure to bitch about them but then post your own so you can go "awww I'm so cool" late at night to yourself.
Buncha hypocrites, swear.
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I see the whole postering thing as a way to engage in RP without actually having to be logged in and standing at a particular place.
I agree that some people would tear down certain posters wherever they find them, and given the volume of papyrus that results from some threads, there must be a steady traffic of people through the area. It would be nice if people would actually RP going around putting up and tearing down posters, but it may not be possible RL (eg. people are posting from work) or convenient IG (having to spend 30 min of your 2 hours game time visiting 'all surface cities' which IG would probably take days anyway - Kohlingen isnt 3 seconds away from Cordor by sea!).
First of all, once a poster is put up, it has to be assumed that it's been seen by enough people for the message to get around. So a post like "immediately rips down every single notice" is obviously not possible simply because others must have seen it in the interim (given that it's still posted in the forum!).
It would be nice if people would, as suggested, RP being caught at the notice board and then play out a conversation there. Some may wish to do so, in which case one should say "Hangs around for a bit to see if anyone else comes by and chats with them" rather than forcing conversation RP on another player. Of course, it could take an entire RL day to RP such a chat, and in the mean time nobody else could walk up and post a note without being seen and dragged into said conversation. But some of the rapid-fire exchanges might be well-suited to such a format.
The "lich laughs" or "Mr X thinks to himself" posts are a way to continue RP outside of the game world by adding atmosphere. Nobody will actually hear what someone thinks to themselves, but it potentially contributes something in terms of giving a general sense of how a character acts, or perhaps by representing (like one Cordor guard represents ten) the thoughts of other people or NPCs on a contentious topic (not that we can RP the decisions of NPCs).
Finally, everyone does have a scribe in their pocket. Just like giant kings rise from the dead thrice daily, the amount of gold in Amia is enough to sink it into the sea, four days pass during the course of a conversation and a cheese sandwich costs several hundred gold. One needs to take account of the fact that this, like so many other things in Amia, are not exactly "as is". Some things dont work "the way they should" because of limitations imposed on the game by the mechanics or on the world by the fact that not everybody is actually in Amia 24/7.
One has to have some sensitivity to these issues when responding to a forum post. Basically, realize the limits of the game and the real world and try not to push those limits or it breaks the suspension of disbelief. It's like metagaming the guards to have drow entering Bendir Dale and tearing down notices.
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The only thing I find annoying with our poster culture is when PCs mysteriously describe their strong verbal dialects or speach impairments with their written text. People that stutter don't stutter when they write, and gritty slurry-spoken dwarves don't go to great lenghts to depict their verbal dialect when they make a bid.
I've never minded people reacting by taking any of my stuff down. Go ahead.
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Oh please, everyone of you have done it before. Atleast Tormak had the nuts to manup and say it.
Not me. I've only taken down notices maybe two times with NPC guards, but that's because the notices were against the law because they were advertising crimes. If they were ever put back up, they weren't taken down again by me.
Nor have I ever engaged in a long and meaningless debate in the form of posters. I have in dialogue, or in private letters. But not in public posters that keep getting written in or glued on or tacked or whatever?
I haven't because none of it rings true to me. It makes no sense. Does this make me better than the rest of you who have? Probably. But you shouldn't feel so bad with all of the terrible things I am guilty of!
I've never torn anyone's posters down, either. Admittedly, I don't post much at all in those forums except for plot stuff. Forum RP always stroke me as odd, but maybe that's just me.
Meh. It's all IC, why do peoples panties get in a bunch OOCly about it? If you post something and my character would tear it down, guess what? My character is tearing it down. If you post it back up and my character wants to tear it down, guess what? My character is going to tear it down. I'd expect you would do the same to me. Fact of the matter is this, if you want crazy back and forth dialogue, why are you doing it in a public place with notes where they can fly away, be torn off, vandalized or pooped on by animals?
Don't whine about dialogue being broken because you were dumb enough to post publicly and someone is trashing it. If you want dialogue, do it through private letters to each other or, god forbid, in game.
That being said, can the re-posting and tearing down get out of hand? Yeah, it can. But that's the point. Sooner or later, one person will give up, right? Just like grudge fighting between people in game, eventually someone will give up. I don't think it's stupid to pull down or re-post something your character would tear down or re-post. Why would we limit an IC action because it "bothers" people OOCly? As they say, roll with he punches, right?
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Yurell wrote:
Uberuce wrote:
Seems like the kind of thing that can be solved by a shift in server culture. Make the convention that instances of posters being torn down or defaced need an accompanying screenshot to prove they really did happen IG-ICly.
Require the same thing of them being put up so that we know where they ae to tear them down.
Agreement with Yurell and Uberuce. Start acting the change you want to see. But it's going to be a server-culture change and have to play to both sides of the board.
Xaviera wrote:
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Agree with the whole of Xaviera's post about the value of atmosphere, and that just because somebody made a post before you doesn't neccissarily mean their PC made it to every flier to tear down before you saw one.
@ Numbers: Nice comic. And a good point, when it's a difference of language slang or not being smart enough to spell. But dialect doesn't show in written text still.
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Forum RP immersion does not equal falling into a pattern that repeats itself over and over, across countless different topics and serving no real purpose.
I mean.. I do get the heated letter-arguments and everything. People want to stand their ground. I could see myself doing the same thing if I got that emotionally invested in a topic and someone made false accusations IC or something. It is silly, but it's at least an understandable reaction. *tears down every poster he can find in location X* is an unnecessary PC Notice post that expresses nothing but a very base disagreement that wouldn't change a thing, whether it's been expressed or not.
Taking down the poster is the only thing you can do to respond on the forums. If I had my Osiris chap in Djedet all day he would tear apart any follower of Set who tries to put any notice up, for example. The forum lurker does not see that.
Kjetta once removed notices of the Mulan faithful in Nes'ek as well, because every single being living there would tear it apart. Some things like that are utterly justified. Lyle Torrowfire incinerates Necromancer messages in Bendir as well. Forum posting is a nice way to post messages somewhere you would get your butt kicked ingame.
Also, you can post responses for every backwater character you have barely not touching the archiver and post your IC 2 cents wihtout ever going there, ingame.
I liked Arelith's IC message board quite a lot, if you want to read and post notices, you have to do it entirely ingame.
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Forum based public notices while having problems do allow for a fair deal more creativity in presenting, an in game notice would be fairly limited in some ways. That said, maybe having a clearer idea of where notices are put up in general can help.
I know for a fact I've gotten into a poster debate or three. At this point, while I know for fact it's possibly gonna happen again no matter what I do, at the least I can make efforts to keep it from happening too often on my own end.
In future propaganda or similar if I get into it, I'll keep all the logistical details in mind as best I can, and DMs feel free to bap me on the nose with a rolled up newspaper if I bugger something up.
I maintain that people should just hold public speeches, like they did in Ancient times!
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Public speeches(notices, announcements, etc.) are awesome for RP! Some time ago, like a zillion years ago, some Kellies were in Cordor preaching next to Jack's pillar. My Fey hates the Kellie's with a passion & started throwing rotten tomatoes & apples at them. Was great fun! The Kellies did their best to maintain their dignity & remain calm while they wiped the veggie goo off them & they kept on preaching! It was awesome! Yea yea it was tiny little thing but those little slices of great RP make me happy. So yus! More power to public speaking! It allows people to react IC in-game instead of IC on the forums.
Well, I actually meant on the forums. You're right, though. Doing it in game is even better, but obviously not always possible/viable. If you have to say something on the forums, it seems more dynamic and authentic to do with a speech: nobody can tear down your notices, and people can decide just how much they heard of your speech, if they misunderstood something or if they missed it altogether.
When it becomes a long dialogue, it's generally better taken in game. And this is only viable if you're preaching something legal, so that the authorities wouldn't shut you up (which really is the game with notices, as well - only that they'll get torn down by NPCs).
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The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
Well...there are situations in rl when a poster is actually not legally out and in that case the posters will be removed.
For example:
- If you put election notes out in public places 24 hours before the elections then it would obviously harm the campaign rules since every political campaign should be stopped 24 hours before the elections. So if the policeman spots you while you are making campaign notices, then you would be arrested and your posters would be removed.
- If you are using the billboard of a advertising company without having, then your posters will be removed most definitely since you don't have the right to use that place for advertising your own stuff.
Same things can happen ingame.
Example:
*Happy banite guy puts posters all around in Kohlingen.*
The poster says: "Join the banites to torture, rape, kill, then eat everyone on island, because Bane is the best!"
*A certain Knight spots it and starts to ponder*
This poster should not be here, since Bane is an evil deity, and followers of evil deities are not allowed to enter Kohlingen, not to mention that those posters are against the laws.
*He is presuming that a random messenger boy would not take the risk to make posters like that in Kohlingen, so he thinks that a sneaky banite has made that poster.*
What will happen?
*He removes the posters and obviously, he will stay alert in case if the banite will return to try it again. If he will spot the happy banite person, then he will kick him and the happy little banite will start to fly. Eventually the happy little banite will land on the top of the Skull Crags, where he can start wondering about life.*
I believe that I can write the *posters are removed in Kohlingen* or the *Yaston removes the posters in Kohlingen* emote in that case..... and I don't think that anyone should blame me for that.
Though, with speeches it's good to keep in mind that the freedom of speech might be restricted, depending where you're holding your speech. Advertisement speech for pillage and plunder by joining the Banites isn't kosher in Cordor, for example.
When there's somebody to play the guards, that's fine. Else it's metagaming NPCs.
Though, with speeches it's good to keep in mind that the freedom of speech might be restricted, depending where you're holding your speech. Advertisement speech for pillage and plunder by joining the Banites isn't kosher in Cordor, for example.
When there's somebody to play the guards, that's fine. Else it's metagaming NPCs.
Which is the case with posters, too. I did mention it in my above post, though.
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I think the issue with public speeches is that I always assumed you were able to give them as a DM who controlled the NPCs listening. I dont know if it is fair for a player to assume a crowd listens and then spreads the news. I am supremely confident you would cop it from the DM team or players if you did that.
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Typically, it's easy enough to nudge a DM and ask on that one. Just a brief tap IG saying (in loose terms) what the speech is about, and we'll give you the go-ahead.
Our only issue is that we just like to know beforehand so we know what's going on.
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Well, with a speech it would obviously get replies like "Listens intently just before flipping the bird" by those who were there. Or even "hearing about the speech later, (insert name here) agrees whole heartedly"
Replies from people who were there.
Unless someone chooses to reply *was not there so doesn't here it * which is just about as retarded as *puts posters back up pulls them down up down up down*
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I think if you do your speech in a public high-traffic place (such as Cordor, Kohlingen, or Winya) with a high commoner presence, you're likely to have your speech reach everyone who is willing to listen.
Adventurers is to Commoners, as Celebrities are to Us. Sure, some people couldn't care less - but every little issue gets shared around through the majority like mad.
I'm guilty of putting up a few posters and I seem to remember issuing orders to have a few torn down as well. Yet, I seem to remember those posters being rather borderline heretical and put in Ultrinnan or the surrounding caves.
It makes sense to use posters for IC advertisements that need to reach the whole playerbase, but the thing that I can't understand is this:
Where do people scribble 3 additional pages of comments on a poster?
I assume that the poster has a suitable blank border, but I never seem to see anyone say anything about putting up a separate piece of parchment or whatever to reply with their comments on.
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ainjyll wrote:
It makes sense to use posters for IC advertisements that need to reach the whole playerbase, but the thing that I can't understand is this:
Where do people scribble 3 additional pages of comments on a poster?
I assume that the poster has a suitable blank border, but I never seem to see anyone say anything about putting up a separate piece of parchment or whatever to reply with their comments on.
Posters are exactly as long as the plot demands.
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What it boils down to, as to why players on Amia write responses to IC posters in PC Notices like this:
*Nabolega tears down all the posters she can find, pees on them and burns them.*
... and this:
*Nabolega reads one of the posters and laughs at the message, after which she writes down a message of her own one some of the scattered and posted notices* "Dear Mr Wiggles, you're a complete fool, and everyone knows you're evil and a cyricist."
... or this:
*A dark figure managed to catch a glimse of one of the posters, and frowned at it, saying to himself:*
"Who does this Mr Wiggles thinks he is? Has he already forgotten about the time he murdered those children? Or burnt down Bendir Dale? He's a disgusting ass, and I hope and know he'll meet his end soon." (Mr Wiggles is actually a highly regarded paladin of Torm, and just happens to be a perfect beaming figure of goodness and light.)
... is because you guys are so fucking obsessed with your own characters that you've managed to stick your head up your own asses.
When replies like the above examples are made (and they're made very frequently) they're not offering the very least of contribution to anyone else's RP but yours.
It's stroking your own ego. You vouch an opinion, belief or behaviour of your character which no one gives a fuck about but yourself. Why? Because:
1. They can't respond to it.
2. It rarely relates to or progresses the original posters intended contribution to Amia's RP.
In all honesty, the majority of IC replies in PC Notices disgust me. They're just cheap, foul and low. And they reek of lacking humility and self-distance.
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WonWon wrote:
I think if you do your speech in a public high-traffic place (such as Cordor, Kohlingen, or Winya) with a high commoner presence, you're likely to have your speech reach everyone who is willing to listen.
Adventurers is to Commoners, as Celebrities are to Us. Sure, some people couldn't care less - but every little issue gets shared around through the majority like mad.
I like this idea, but mainly because I want to see some adventurer say the wrong thing in Cordor and get stoned. *nod nod*
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Mr Mago wrote:
<snip> When replies like the above examples are made (and they're made very frequently) they're not offering the very least of contribution to anyone else's RP but yours.
It's stroking your own ego. You vouch an opinion, belief or behaviour of your character which no one gives a (censored) about but yourself. Why? Because:
1. They can't respond to it. 2. It rarely relates to or progresses the original posters intended contribution to Amia's RP.
In all honesty, the majority of IC replies in PC Notices disgust me. They're just cheap, foul and low. And they reek of lacking humility and self-distance.
I never thought I would agree with Mago. And I am unsure if this is good or bad.
Anyway, this is exactly my concern when it comes to these kinds of postings.
Which, again, goes back to my comparison of them to the annoying Thought Bubbles.
Anyone here remembers, too, the thread that Numbers started ages ago, IC, that was locked because it became flame bait?
One about the bartender in Ultrinnan hearing and spreading rumours.
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Mr Mago wrote:
When replies like the above examples are made (and they're made very frequently) they're not offering the very least of contribution to anyone else's RP but yours.
It's stroking your own ego. You vouch an opinion, belief or behaviour of your character which no one gives a (censored) about but yourself. Why? Because:
1. They can't respond to it. 2. It rarely relates to or progresses the original posters intended contribution to Amia's RP.
In all honesty, the majority of IC replies in PC Notices disgust me. They're just cheap, foul and low. And they reek of lacking humility and self-distance.
I disagree - the way your character is portrayed is very important to how others interact with him. Would Amenia run up and huggle Darthion? No. Would she run up and huggle Xavi? Yes.
Why is this? Because Darthion has his reputation, his RP an how everyone perceives him. So too does Xavi.
And how the characters react is IC - the 'being unable to distance' goes both ways: some people can't distance themselves from their characters well just like some people can't see an IC act without seeing it as on OOC one too.
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Yurell wrote:
Mr Mago wrote:
When replies like the above examples are made (and they're made very frequently) they're not offering the very least of contribution to anyone else's RP but yours.
It's stroking your own ego. You vouch an opinion, belief or behaviour of your character which no one gives a (censored) about but yourself. Why? Because:
1. They can't respond to it. 2. It rarely relates to or progresses the original posters intended contribution to Amia's RP.
In all honesty, the majority of IC replies in PC Notices disgust me. They're just cheap, foul and low. And they reek of lacking humility and self-distance.
I disagree - the way your character is portrayed is very important to how others interact with him. Would Amenia run up and huggle Darthion? No. Would she run up and huggle Xavi? Yes. Why is this? Because Darthion has his reputation, his RP an how everyone perceives him. So too does Xavi.
And how the characters react is IC - the 'being unable to distance' goes both ways: some people can't distance themselves from their characters well just like some people can't see an IC act without seeing it as on OOC one too.
I think that you are missing the point.
It does not. Not if I don't know your character and I am not right beside her/him to see/hear what s/he is doing.
So, by reputation we know Darthion is evil.
But do we know he will be laughing his arse off or giggling like a girl when reading posters trying to demean him?
Even if he emotes doing it, what is the point? Why not emote such actions IN GAME and run the risks implied, rather than resort to cheap jabs, be then IC or, in the worst case scenario, OOC veiled?
EDIT: Anyway, I guess I am just bitter. And it is bed time. I might decide to abstain from posting on this thread tomorrow when I see this again.
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BlackDahlya wrote:
But do we know he will be laughing his arse off or giggling like a girl when reading posters trying to demean him?
Even if he emotes doing it, what is the point? Why not emote such action in character and run the risks implied, rather than resort to cheap jabs, be then IC or, in the worst case scenario, OOC veiled?
Or one could just not make OOC jibes?
And are one's emotes not 'in character' on the PC Notice Board? I'm quite sure that they are - I don't think I'd get away with Ame massacring puppies or Jhaelryna giving out sweets to children.
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Yurell wrote:
BlackDahlya wrote:
But do we know he will be laughing his arse off or giggling like a girl when reading posters trying to demean him?
Even if he emotes doing it, what is the point? Why not emote such action in character and run the risks implied, rather than resort to cheap jabs, be then IC or, in the worst case scenario, OOC veiled?
Or one could just not make OOC jibes? And are one's emotes not 'in character' on the PC Notice Board? I'm quite sure that they are - I don't think I'd get away with Ame massacring puppies or Jhaelryna giving out sweets to children.
I obviously meant in character, yes. But IN GAME.
Let me fix that on the post.
And I meant jabs, plainly. Not "jibes".
Again, think of thought bubbles. But, those who were not around when there was the surge of Thought Bubbles and all the problems that came with them would probably not understand what I or even Mago is trying to say.
I guess I just got scarred.
Anyway, bed time.
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Then BD why bring them up?
The point is, besides the few who felt the need to confirm they've =never= done such a horrid thing, the reality is this:
In the examples Mago has given, those particular style of responses certainly could be considered egotistical, just as some posts in this thread could be considered egotistical.
Wow, some people think a lot of themselves. Who'd a thunk it.
There's also a lot of replies that give people a chance to contribute with how their own character would react... so really what determines what is egotistical is your personal viewpoint, yes?
So that means what Mago and Dri may think as being perfectly In Character for their own replies to said posters, another could say was the most egotistical BS they've seen, and start a thread just like this one.
If Frey hired one of Speedy's to post Wanted posters in Kohlingen for the High Cleric of the Triadics, sure they're going to be torn down. Frey'd expect it. If you post stuff, like someone else said, be prepared for it to be shat upon, torn up, feed to Catgrrls, turned into chowder, whatever.
That DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE, YA'LL.
Mission accomplished ... lol
So how about less worrying about everyone else, and just worry about yourself a bit more?
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I disagree - the way your character is portrayed is very important to how others interact with him. Would Amenia run up and huggle Darthion? No. Would she run up and huggle Xavi? Yes.
You shouldn't be huggling anyone. A huggle is nothing. It does not exist. Hug them, yes. Huggle them, no.
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Yossarin wrote:
You shouldn't be huggling anyone. A huggle is nothing. It does not exist. Hug them, yes. Huggle them, no.
Only in your mind, Yoss, only in your mind... and to quote someone else in another thread "I think there's no need to nitpick this particular."
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What was the last consensus regarding thought-bubbles? Just curious. I cant recall if you're allowed to gut the fellow that emotes - *proceeds to ignore the moron because she think hes uttering gibberish and can't tell his hole from his elbow*
Cos Im just curious if the douche-ness over the boards can translate to pvp consent? Like: quite certainly, Yaston tearing down any evil faction poster is quite legitimate cos they arent even on neutral terms.
But say if some random hin emotes over the forum tearing down a Lovitarian's poster and peeing on it? Fair game to hunt the hin down ICly to gut him? Then pike his head next to the poster perhaps? I like the idea of repercussions =D
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Yossarin wrote:
Yurell wrote:
I disagree - the way your character is portrayed is very important to how others interact with him. Would Amenia run up and huggle Darthion? No. Would she run up and huggle Xavi? Yes.
You shouldn't be huggling anyone. A huggle is nothing. It does not exist. Hug them, yes. Huggle them, no.
I was employing established internet slang, as you no-doubt recognised.
Jas wrote:
What was the last consensus regarding thought-bubbles? Just curious. I cant recall if you're allowed to gut the fellow that emotes - *proceeds to ignore the moron because she think hes uttering gibberish and can't tell his hole from his elbow*
Personally, if you someone thought bubble something, I treat it as what I could learn from facial expression or something - after all, why would they emote something that is otherwise purely OOC?
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Personally, if you someone thought bubble something, I treat it as what I could learn from facial expression or something - after all, why would they emote something that is otherwise purely OOC?
Because they may be recovering from years of forum RP, where your text is one big thought bubble with the occassional speech cherries on top.
All it takes is explaining what OOC means and why that's bad here.
The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
I was employing established internet slang, as you no-doubt recognised.
Good, you've isolated the problem. The next step is doing something about it.
And on that note, the same goes for the subject of this thread. Torzeng was on the money when he said the OP's issue really stems from an established mindset in the playerbase, and if people are made to feel ashamed of engaging in the ad nauseum pull down/put up posters game, or engaging in what would best be a verbal debate but instead is littering a telephone pole with post-it notes, there might be a lessening of the undesireable behavior.
Every time I see an interesting propaganda post that makes me want to give some kind of reply to show that I think the OP's effort has not gone unnoticed, I sit down and I think, "If I saw this on a telephone pole on the corner of 42nd and Main, would I take out a pen and write something on it in the hopes the person who made the poster sees it? Would I go to the store and buy posterboard and a black magic marker and etch out a large and thoughtful response to it and then wrap it around the telephone pole just beneath the original notice?"
Even if you replace the telephone pole with a cork-backed public message board or some other invention, it is still just as silly.
Instead, I do what I said in my first post in this thread and try to find a creative way to accomplish my little "wink" to the original poster, to say, "I am posting something to acknowledge your effort!" Which I see some of you do, and even in this thread, suggest or recommend, which is heartening. Even Frey's "somewhere in X, a Y Zs" meme is something, though I still claim the gold trophy for the best use of that Amian meme in response to the Banites.
I'm kinda curious about what Jas asked, too. If Character A tears down Character B's poster or scribbles something horrendous on it, does it transfer over to IG consequences? For example:
Jon puts up a poster offering some rare magical item.
Mark comes along and scribbles down on the poster that Jon is an evil bastard and will use the money to finance the murder of countless kittens and puppies and would kick Jon's butt if he was standing in front of him.
Assuming that an option to escape PvP is given in the confrontation, can Jon go after Mark in game?
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