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soundofastream
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 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 6:10 AM |
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I thought I might add a topic purely on languages in the Realms. It'll be a good place to learn what languages exist, what their characters by default are likely to speak and what information exists already.
I found this page, which, may be of some interest. Bear in mind its 3.5 Ed information though. I've also noticed its probably slightly inaccurate in a few spots but does a good job of giving us a basic overview of languages.
http://www.nwnthevast.com/lore/languages.htm
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Elithiel Issatheerin (Shadow Elf) She who Lurks
Isolia Oussea'lylth (Sun Elf) Apprentice Wizardess
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 6:36 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Generally I believe it's the following, though correct me if I'm wrong.
Human:
Common + Regional Language + 1 language for every 2 INT mod.
All other races:
Common + Race specfic language (Drow, Elven Dwarven etc) + 1 language for every 2 INT Mod.
Spells and feats:
Tongues
ToSaM
Class languages are usually purchased with the +1 to every 2 INT mod. As the class usually requires a decent INT rating anyway.
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mairacle_ninja
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 7:06 AM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Location: Australia
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Note that I believe half-elves get Elven as a bonus language the same as elves. Can't be sure about half orcs, however.
By the way, what are the class languages? And, I'm not sure where this comes from, but I have an inkling bards can learn bonus languages as part of their class?
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 7:20 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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mairacle_ninja wrote: Note that I believe half-elves get Elven as a bonus language the same as elves. Can't be sure about half orcs, however.
By the way, what are the class languages? And, I'm not sure where this comes from, but I have an inkling bards can learn bonus languages as part of their class?
Wizards, Sorcs and Bard usually get the Arcane language free.
Rogues & Assassins usually get Thieves Cant free.
Think there's a few others to.
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 7:28 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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At first level it's 1 per every int mod (1 per 2 int, I don't know if that is what you were saying), but languages can be bought as skills (Speak Language is Cross-Class for everyone but bard).
Edit: Oh, and druids get druidic.
There is no buying languages in PnP with int modifier beyond level one.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 7:58 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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The INT = Languages rule is the most retarded DnD invention I have ever seen. And believe me, there's a lot of competition in that area.
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Galenson
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 8:27 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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It doesn't take a book worm to learn how to speak a language. It just takes a book worm to write it in a book.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 8:52 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Well, you can be as smart as Einstein, but if you don't have contact with native speakers you will never learn a language. At the other end of the spectrum you'll have to have a very low IQ not to be able speaking more languages if you're born into a multi-lingual family or society. It's opportunity that counts, not intelligence.
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 8:59 AM |
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I agree with you, Disco. Intelligence does have an important role (too low and you may not even be able to learn one properly), but once you hit average it is far from the determining factor on languages.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:16 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Very intelligent people can probably make up new languages, but that wouldn't do them much good. 
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:22 AM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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Dev Disco wrote: Very intelligent people can probably make up new languages, but that wouldn't do them much good. Unless they have a small group of people, and want the ability to talk on important matters that end up seeming and sounding like gibberish.
The really cool way to do this, is wrap stuff up in seemingly normal conversation. Like Theeves cant. and instead of RPing [Theves cant] blah blah. You actually go trough with it, and stand there having a conversation about rain or whatever, while you're really discussing how ugly the nearest guard is. Or something to that affect.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:24 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Mind that you don't have to be intelligent for that. The lower the IQ the more likely nobody will understand what you say except people at your own level. For an alternative hypothesis: this is a feat that backward villagers also possess, they call it 'dialect'.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:25 AM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Well, they might get a cult following.
On topic: you might want to check the Dragon Magazine article "Speaking in Tongues." You'll find it in the Annual 4 (1999), at least. It's not canon, as nothing in Dragon ever is, but it's very good and has probably been adopted as canon for a large part, later. Written by Tom Costa, so it's not just some random bloke.
The canon 3.5 language proficiencies can be found in Player's Guide to Faerûn, though.
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Last edited by IronAngel on Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:25 AM, edited 1 time in total.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:25 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Speaking in farts... now that would impress me!
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Galenson
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:29 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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Thats what New Zealanders talk like Disco. You should pay more attention.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 10:51 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Well, then I finally discovered the impressive country at that side of the world.
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hircine
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 11:00 AM |
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Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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HellScourge
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 11:13 AM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Dev Disco wrote: Speaking in farts... now that would impress me!
Morse code? _________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...] 
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 21:38 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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The language of men!
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Yossarin
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 21:40 PM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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How would "I love you" translate into that language?
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2009, 21:41 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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You simply don't fart, thus showing someone how much you care.
Either that or the new fad of warming the oven...
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