NB: You don't have to pay for the rental housing yet, and you get lots of debug lines. For now I am interested if the system works. When everything is OK I clean up the database and switch on pricing. I won't listen to any "I own this and that house and now you RUINED my RP" nonsense, btw.
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The only bug I've found is that the torture placeables don't work.
*considers never accepting a dinner invitation from any of Gunz' PCs*
So, which of the older systems are still in place?
1) free lockable inn rooms (eg. the Nomad)?
2) non-lockable free houses (eg. in Cordor west & central)?
3) lockable rent-'til-reset houses (eg. in Kohl & Djedet)?
4) all of the above?
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Looks alot like the system SE uses, would it be possible to choose between different lay outs of areas your looking for? For instance factions looking for delux package could have a single large hall instead of two rooms and a hall?
Also, I know lighting can be an iffy topic, but what are the possibilities of having a way to change the lighting of the room. I've already come up with a great way to make use of this system for my pc
Possible Bug: I rented a house in Shadowscape & later I deleted the key from my inventory using the Rentable House Widget. After I deleted the key I left the house & checked the door & it said it was still rented, I opened the door & walked back into my still rented house. I thought I had cancled the Rental Agreement with deleting the key but somehow the house was still registering as mine.
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555444333 wrote:
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
The only bug I've found is that the torture placeables don't work.
I thought the server discouraged cybering?
Tis no more a "cybering tool" than a bed placeable, my friend.
Besides, some people actually use them for actual torture of the none sexual sort! Imagine that! :O
Xaviera wrote:
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
The only bug I've found is that the torture placeables don't work.
*considers never accepting a dinner invitation from any of Gunz' PCs*
Pfft! You love it!
Teufel Eldritch wrote:
Possible Bug: I rented a house in Shadowscape & later I deleted the key from my inventory using the Rentable House Widget. After I deleted the key I left the house & checked the door & it said it was still rented, I opened the door & walked back into my still rented house. I thought I had cancled the Rental Agreement with deleting the key but somehow the house was still registering as mine.
Hmmm... I'm going to test try this one myself and see if I get the same result.
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Right, so the mirror and deluxe bar placeable also don't work. The mirror bugs out when you try to remove the invisible placeble too. It says "Error: No PLC selected".
As for the getting rid of the house thing, I couldn't find an option to do that. The only option that was even close to that was "Remove key from this PC". Sounds like a bug that you can take away the master key, but I dunno. There's an option to extend your stay, but none to cancel and move out. Maybe that should be added?
Looks alot like the system SE uses, would it be possible to choose between different lay outs of areas your looking for? For instance factions looking for delux package could have a single large hall instead of two rooms and a hall?
No, because that would mean I need to make and track different base areas, and that's exactly what I don't want to do.
Craig deathwalker wrote:
Also, I know lighting can be an iffy topic, but what are the possibilities of having a way to change the lighting of the room. I've already come up with a great way to make use of this system for my pc
I guess I could make a simple dimmer or something like that.
Right, so the mirror and deluxe bar placeable also don't work. The mirror bugs out when you try to remove the invisible placeble too. It says "Error: No PLC selected".
I guess the small mirror doesn't show up? What's the invisible PLC?
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
As for the getting rid of the house thing, I couldn't find an option to do that. The only option that was even close to that was "Remove key from this PC". Sounds like a bug that you can take away the master key, but I dunno. There's an option to extend your stay, but none to cancel and move out. Maybe that should be added?
Dunno. You paid, why should you lose that money? I want to make a thing that allows you to transfer ownership, though. Handy for factions.
Possible Bug: I rented a house in Shadowscape & later I deleted the key from my inventory using the Rentable House Widget. After I deleted the key I left the house & checked the door & it said it was still rented, I opened the door & walked back into my still rented house. I thought I had cancled the Rental Agreement with deleting the key but somehow the house was still registering as mine.
Possible Bug: I rented a house in Shadowscape & later I deleted the key from my inventory using the Rentable House Widget. After I deleted the key I left the house & checked the door & it said it was still rented, I opened the door & walked back into my still rented house. I thought I had cancled the Rental Agreement with deleting the key but somehow the house was still registering as mine.
Owners don't need a key.
I did the same thing.
I could still go into the house - as the "owner", despite having no widget...
Is there a cancelling mechanism? Say, if you want to move house to something bigger or smaller, how do we back out?
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Dev Disco wrote:
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Right, so the mirror and deluxe bar placeable also don't work. The mirror bugs out when you try to remove the invisible placeble too. It says "Error: No PLC selected".
I guess the small mirror doesn't show up? What's the invisible PLC?
Aye. The placeable (Mirror) seems to register as some invisible thing because the widget counts it as a placeable even though it doesn't show. When I tried to delete it, it gave me that error.
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Dev Disco wrote:
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Right, so the mirror and deluxe bar placeable also don't work. The mirror bugs out when you try to remove the invisible placeble too. It says "Error: No PLC selected".
I guess the small mirror doesn't show up? What's the invisible PLC?
Aye. The placeable (Mirror) seems to register as some invisible thing because the widget counts it as a placeable even though it doesn't show. When I tried to delete it, it gave me that error.
I see the mirror, both small and big, just fine.
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I rented House 1 in Howness with my PC Marik, and took the week deluxe package, which is supposed to come with 30 placeables. However, when I started setting them, the system gave me feedback that my package only allowed me to have 3 placeables total.
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I found a few bugs today.
1) Normal placeables are included into the home placables when you try to move or remove a house placeable. In other words, another player set down his placable table, another set a carpet and when I was nearest one of them when I clicked the "show me the closest PLC" option, it chose them instead of the nearest placable that's actually connected to the house system.
2) Some placeables in the house system are unbreakable and others aren't. Dunno if that's meant to be that way, but thought I'd tell you.
3) Lastly, and this is more of a double question followed by a comment based on the answer:
A. Have the doors been set so that they can be lock picked already?
If not, I found someone's placeables in my house. They, some how, got in to my house and got all comfy. The nerve! ::shakes fist::
B. I noticed the houses are labeled "House 1", "House 2", etc. Are homes from one city recycled as homes for another city? In other words, is "House 1" in Wharftown using the same map as "House 1" in Cordor?
If so, what happens when I, having "House 1" in Wharftown, and Bobby Mc Gee, having "House 1" in Cordor, are in our home at the same time? Do we become roommates or ...?
1. Not a bug. It really does what it says: target the closest PLC.
2. We simply use standard stuff, not much to be done there.
3A. Forgot to do that. Did you leave your house open? The lock now UNLOCKS the door, standard setting is locked.
3B. There are 9 house areas in the mod and over 30 doors. So yes, they are recycled but you should never be able to share a house with another owner. If all areas are taken you get a message to come back later.
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Gotcha. What probably happened then was that the person who also owns "House 1" somewhere left normal placeables and I saw them when I came in to my "House 1". Are they being recycled only because it's beta form right now or are they going to stay this way?
Gotcha. What probably happened then was that the person who also owns "House 1" somewhere left normal placeables and I saw them when I came in to my "House 1". Are they being recycled only because it's beta form right now or are they going to stay this way?
They should have been removed. I simply didn't think of people leaving that kind of stuff behind.
They will be recycled. Not gonna add 40 empty house areas. If I get a lot of comments about people not being able to use a house because we ran out of empty areas I'll add a few more. At this moment I have a simple rule of the thumb:
* 2/3 of the server isn't in a house at any given time
* that leaves about 21 people
* most houses will be used by more people at a certain time
Can we talk cost? The amounts seem quiet a bit on the high side for the length of time allowed. I know it's accounting for the fact of IG to RL time one month RL equals about eleven months IG but at those prices the whole thing seems to be targeted at the people that consider a million pocket change. Also I don't know if it's just Canada but I don't know anyone that sinks a million into their house everything told in taxes and bills per year. Just food for thought.
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That' part of the idea of the houses: Gold sink. Amians are... wealthy. As such, they should naturally be charged more. Check out the PC Notice Boards. A million isn't a lot of gold, and it's easy to make on Amia. A level 30 should be able to pony up one million every four weeks without too much trouble.
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That' part of the idea of the houses: Gold sink. Amians are... wealthy. As such, they should naturally be charged more. Check out the PC Notice Boards. A million isn't a lot of gold, and it's easy to make on Amia. A level 30 should be able to pony up one million every four weeks without too much trouble.
Or divide the cost between friends.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
You want to pay 1 000 000 gold to live in a cave for a month?
REAL QUESTIONS: -Can I have the coins taken now and keep the house I have?
-Can I have a sign placed at the front door of the place I have now?
-If a house is to be used as a base of operations for a 'business'(I would hesitate at faction) is there any way to pay for longer periods of time in advance? A lease that goes beyond one month that is paid periodically?
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-Can I have the coins taken now and keep the house I have?
-Can I have a sign placed at the front door of the place I have now?
-If a house is to be used as a base of operations for a 'business'(I would hesitate at faction) is there any way to pay for longer periods of time in advance? A lease that goes beyond one month that is paid periodically?
No.
Make your own.
You can't be arsed to log in *once a month* to pay a rent?
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
You can't be arsed to log in *once a month* to pay a rent?
I think the concern is what if we miss rent day and someone swipes the house.
well I think disco said if more houses are needed he will add more, but as I see it not alot will be needed after the fad of it goes down abit.
This may be true, but shifting business premises every month smacks of tax evasion. As to the sign, I have made my own, but It's only there when I log on and place it. I'd be happy to make and place it there IC so long as it could stay there after a reset
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I don't record your name, so it's a bit hard to create a sign with it when you are not around.
You don't need to wait till the last day of a month the expand your renting period, it's just cheaper to do so. You can always transfer your ownership if you think you won't be there for more days.
NB: You don't have to pay for the rental housing yet, and you get lots of debug lines. For now I am interested if the system works. When everything is OK I clean up the database and switch on pricing. I won't listen to any "I own this and that house and now you RUINED my RP" nonsense, btw.
*Raises hand* Bendir Dale could use a few more housings besides the one. Hin need a place to live too! It'll probably need to be incorporated into some sort of an event like an expansion of Bendir Dale, but that could be interesting too.
NB: You don't have to pay for the rental housing yet, and you get lots of debug lines. For now I am interested if the system works. When everything is OK I clean up the database and switch on pricing. I won't listen to any "I own this and that house and now you RUINED my RP" nonsense, btw.
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