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Xaviera
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All right, then, let's talk about what would be permitted.
Cybering in-game is out, naturally, but what about soliciting? "Hey there, sailor. Wanna go over to the inn and have a good time for a few coins?"
Is it any different from a DM point of view if the solicitation is followed by the disappearance of both characters and return an hour later with a transfer of cash, than if they just state "Time passes while they go off to the Nomad and conduct business for an hour" and continue on with regular RP? In the former case, even though the 'event' takes place off Amia, it would certainly look to DMs as if the player has a character whose purpose is to provide sexually-themed RP (not that they could prove it in that case, though).
Can one refer to previous transactions IC? "Oh, I'm so tired, I was on my back working all night". Other things related to the job? "You, skank. You're on my corner scaring away my clients. Get lost."
I'm not saying Phear is going to be doing any of the cyber-stuff, but these are the 'slippery slope' questions that might make 'active' ie. on-going prostitution RP risky. With Xavi, I gave up that specific aspect of her character (sex for money) after that ruling came out as something she promised her wife when they got married that she would no longer do, so at that point it became a back-story. I guess the question is, how iffy is it to have it as an active story but occurring 'off-scene'?
_________________  ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 14:48 PM |
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I think you should answer the question "is it smart to play a prostitute on a no-cyber server" first. If that answer is 'no' you don't have to bother with the small print.
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Xaviera
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 14:50 PM |
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But if you're not looking to cyber, at least that issue becomes irrelevant. That's when you have to look into the details of what's acceptable and what's not because it's an iffy topic.
_________________ ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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Yossarin
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 14:52 PM |
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I haven't got any room to speak on this topic, since I've been pushing the edge of the envelope even from the DM Client by having something prostitution-related occurring in a plot. But that's just what I do.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 14:55 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
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Location: Amsterdam
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That's not an answer to that question. It's not some Lore or RP related question. It's a very simple "what do you think as a sensible human being?" type of thing. Once again:
Situation: You got a server that actively prohibits any cybering, aka detailing the acts that form a prostitute's business .
Question: Do you think that playing a prostitute is a smart thing on such a server?
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Lally
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:08 PM |
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Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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My only question with "hey baby wanna go upstairs" roleplay is what if the dude says yes?
I remember possessing one of the southern tarts quickly for some dude who was icly all up ons and thinking to myself..well shit...how am I going to handle this one? Played it off like I kept looking over my shoulder for my boss, then turned the fella down.
Unless Disco wants to impliment an Amia C (for Cyborz) I'd avoid it current hobaggery and opt for an old busted broad with a bad back and a razor sharp wit that could only come from years of horizontal philosophy, say.
Think..Mae West 20 years after her prime...
For the love of GOD, avoid "Pretty Woman."
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Grymia
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:08 PM |
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There is a difference between Background off-screen, and in your face on screen. Both are important especially in the context you bring up, Yossarin but it's the on-screen stuff that really is a no no here.
In some things as well, I like to believe that a DM is more able to recognize when he can nudge on the border and when he has to stay on task.
As well, there are ways around playing a Prostitute that would still be of interest and could provide compelling RP , a Courtesan that focuses on other more chaste aspects of entertaining men and women for example.
A good example: Look at Firefly/Serenity's Inarra Serra, a Companion (implied to be a Courtesan that does also serve as a high quality prostitute). She still has a lot of business in the show and for the most part, it doesn't include on screen anything that isn't forbidden by server rules. (Some might contend Massage, but if they do they MIGHT wanna check the Job System under M for Masseur) ^^;
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Xaviera
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:12 PM |
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Location: Temple of Love
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Dev Disco wrote: Situation: You got a server that actively prohibits any cybering, aka detailing the acts that form a prostitute's business .
Question: Do you think that playing a prostitute is a smart thing on such a server? But it's not a question of detailing the acts themselves, as that leads to a ban. The question is, can one RP engaging in the business without detailing the acts? And if so, what part of the business can be 'on-screen' as opposed to off? Not disagreeing with you, Disco. Just asking my usual "what if" questions. I'm like this at work too.  Yossarin wrote: I haven't got any room to speak on this topic, since I've been pushing the edge of the envelope even from the DM Client by having something prostitution-related occurring in a plot. But that's just what I do.
And I'm missing it.  _________________ ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:16 PM |
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Why not use the Planescape Torment approach to it?
A brothel with willing ladies, lead by a Succubus? What do they offer?
Services! Special Services for the clients...
Involving intelectual challenges, a good time, someone to talk to, etc.
Why does a prostitue need to sell her body? Why not her mind? Someone to comfort (Not that way mind you!) people.
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Yurell
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:19 PM |
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HellScourge wrote: Someone to comfort (Not that way mind you!) people.
They're called psychiatrists and they're free at the Sally Temple 
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Xaviera
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:22 PM |
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Location: Temple of Love
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Lalelilolu wrote: My only question with "hey baby wanna go upstairs" roleplay is what if the dude says yes?
"Time passes while they go to the inn, then she takes her money and leaves. Thanks for the RP. See ya." _________________ ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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maughter
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 15:25 PM |
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Location: Wales, the UK
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Kara-Turan hostess at the Okappa?
problem solved
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Arcane Crusader
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:09 PM |
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Location: Spokane, Wa.. USA
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I seem to remember a place called the Velvet Quiver in Zanshibon that has pleasure slaves... Seems quite the brothel to me.. Maal actually visits there frequently. They even speak of the... what is it... seventy two
(?I forget now?) forms of pleasure, and say "Looking for a good time?"
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:13 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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I understand what you are suggesting here, but please answer the question above.
I'll make it easy for you fellas... just pick
a) Yes, I think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
b) No, I don't think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
What's it gonna be boy, yes or no?
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Yurell
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:20 PM |
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Dev Disco wrote: I understand what you are suggesting here, but please answer the question above.
I'll make it easy for you fellas... just pick
a) Yes, I think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
b) No, I don't think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
What's it gonna be boy, yes or no?
'Sensible' isn't a fair word.
a) Yes, I think it's possible and there could be an interesting character concept to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
b) No, I don't think it's possible and there could be an interesting character concept to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:24 PM |
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Well, my reason for supporting the rule is this: it has nothing to do with naughtiness or moral standards. It's simply social engineering. I don't want to encourage social RP on Amia, I don't want to provide an environment you can use to set the stage for cyber before you log off. I want us to provide a serious role-playing server full of adventure, danger and fantasy; not a forum for imaginary relationships, intimacy and (to use someone else's pet peeve!) the illusion of control people lack in real life. Not all aspiring prostitute players are like this, of course, but I think the Big Picture is more important. Individual freedom is crushed under the fist of social engineering and server PR, but I can accept that.
And besides, "DMs determine what crosses the line case-by-case," as the rule says. If you have an idea you want to play, just PM us a request to see if it's fine?
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Arcane Crusader
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:38 PM |
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Just for clarification.. My point of view is... cyber = creepy and bad. Very creepy and totally weird imo. Keep it off the server in any form.... I play nwn (D&D in general) for the fantastic adventures that can await me and the awesome stories of gallant heroes or evil villainy, not to pick up some girl over the internet and have creepy cyber..... I'll never understand doing that, but thats just me.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:44 PM |
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Well, I personally don't have anything against it. Amia's stance towards it is not so much an ethical as it is a practical one. It's not the service we want to offer. We don't aim to please everyone and provide a setting for all kinds of playing. We have a wide target audience, certainly. But we still consciously and actively encourage certain trends and discourage or ban others, so as to maintain the kind of playerbase (both quality and quantity) we want to have. I don't see a need to sugarcoat it with moralism: it's just our bussiness strategy.
_________________ On Joon, Kjetta wrote: The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
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Arcane Crusader
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 17:56 PM |
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Nothing ethical about my stance. I'm probably one of the most unethical people you'll ever meet. It's just how I feel. I don't care what another person does, but for myself, if I want a woman I'll go get a real one not words on a screen. Like I said though, thats just me. Everyones different though and thats just fine with me but I still think its creepy.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 18:10 PM |
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Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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Cybering being creepy is one of the contributing factors to the fact that the majority of my characters are asexual.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 18:16 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Yurell wrote: Dev Disco wrote: I understand what you are suggesting here, but please answer the question above.
I'll make it easy for you fellas... just pick
a) Yes, I think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
b) No, I don't think it's sensible to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms.
What's it gonna be boy, yes or no? 'Sensible' isn't a fair word. a) Yes, I think it's possible and there could be an interesting character concept to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms. b) No, I don't think it's possible and there could be an interesting character concept to RP a prostitute on server that bans cybering in all its forms. Why so complicated? I think it's very, very clear what I mean with this question. I'd have gotten an answer if it wasn't, you know.
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Grymia
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 18:23 PM |
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Disco's question hasn't directly been answered thusly I'll offer an answer.
No, in Amia's current environment playing a prostitute probably isn't conducive to remaining free and clear of the risk of being banned and similar.
However, there are alternatives which if explored tastefully and properly would allow for a very similar path to be followed without risking the wrath of the Chicken.
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hendrack
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 18:25 PM |
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Don't quite get whats so hot about RPing a prostiute? If I want sexy RP I go to a real hooker. *whipwhip*
Dev Disco wrote: What's it gonna be boy, yes or no?
Its a trap! Don't answer!
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Uberuce
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 19:01 PM |
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Silvarus wrote: Cybering being creepy is one of the contributing factors to the fact that the majority of my characters are asexual. Silvarus: get out my brain.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 19:11 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
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hendrack wrote: Don't quite get whats so hot about RPing a prostiute? If I want sexy RP I go to a real hooker. *whipwhip* Dev Disco wrote: What's it gonna be boy, yes or no? Its a trap! Don't answer! I want to know right now!
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Grymia
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 19:13 PM |
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I wanna know do y'love me forever!
... Ok, back to topic.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 19:58 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
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Grymia wrote: ... Ok, back to topic.
Let me sleep on it... (this one's for you, Cori!)
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Grymia
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Posted: Sun, Sep 06 2009, 20:00 PM |
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Ah Disco, I sense you're a fan of musicals?
Either way.. I think we've got the message of this thread in general covered.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 6:29 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
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Location: Amsterdam
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It's Meatloaf, you heretic.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 7:49 AM |
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Let's put it this way, cybering is banned, it shouldn't be a factor in any equation. You do it, you get banned. Simple as. The solution to situations that may involve cybering normally is "Fade to Black", just like an M rated movie. Then after about two minutes you resume RP afterwards. That's what I do with all my characters and I've never been in trouble.
Now as for the whoring thing. If it's part of your RP, I don't see a problem. Because if you Cyber on the server, you are banned. Prostitution does not involve cybering. It involves sex for the exchange of money. From what I know, Sex is not banned on Amia. But expressing it in detail by means of cybering on the server is banned. Fading to black is then the alternative, pulling a curtain over the situation and thus creating the illusion somethings is going on.
So your character may pay another character to have sex with them. But that rp is not to be expressed in detail. Nor forced, and should not be used as an excuse to charge massive amounts of gold.
If Sex in the server is an issue. Ban Sex fully. Sex is not to be rped, it does not exist in the world of Amia. Do that.
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Yurell
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 7:54 AM |
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I agree with Selvec to be honest. There is nothing wrong with it if it is part of your RP so long as it fades to black. Unless PG means 'graphic violence, adult themes but not even suggestive behaviour'.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 7:56 AM |
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I would like to pretend our players have better, more exciting things to do on Amia than roleplay a prostitute on a server where you cannot roleplay the namesake act, things like playing darin swashbuckling adventurers and villains of intrigue.
But I guess the playerbase has gone and surprised me again.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:01 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I would like to pretend our players have better, more exciting things to do on Amia than roleplay a prostitute on a server where you cannot roleplay the namesake act, things like playing darin swashbuckling adventurers and villains of intrigue.
But I guess the playerbase has gone and surprised me again.
...Don't lie, your not surprised at all. Nobody can be surprised when they witness the varying degree's of RP that the server has to offer. It's the choice of every player after all to engage in whatever RP they enjoy. Within' the rules of the server of course.
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Yurell
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:01 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I would like to pretend our players have better, more exciting things to do on Amia than roleplay a prostitute on a server where you cannot roleplay the namesake act, things like playing darin swashbuckling adventurers and villains of intrigue.
But I guess the playerbase has gone and surprised me again.
The playerbase has surprised you by being accepting of said people's RP? I don't want to play a prostitute, period, but if somebody else does I'm perfectly willing to accept that if it's their character (although annoyance will ensue if it's just a lead up to 'do u want 2 cyber').
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Estatica
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:08 AM |
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Selvec Darkon wrote: Ban Sex fully. Sex is not to be rped, it does not exist in the world of Amia. Do that.
..This could lead to some major problems regarding the increase of elves and other long-lived species while having a decrease in everyone else - sure that's a good idea?
On a more serious note, I'd say that prostitution roleplay would be alright as long as the actions weren't actually done with a fade-to-black, after which the two would return to roleplaying normally afterwards.
Mind, it's always a good idea to check with the DMs first.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:09 AM |
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The Silent Whisper wrote: Selvec Darkon wrote: Ban Sex fully. Sex is not to be rped, it does not exist in the world of Amia. Do that. ..This could lead to some major problems regarding the increase of elves and other long-lived species while having a decrease in everyone else - sure that's a good idea? On a more serious note, I'd say that prostitution roleplay would be alright as long as the actions weren't actually done with a fade-to-black, after which the two would return to roleplaying normally afterwards. Never said it was a good idea. But given that it is a fantasy world...stalks delivered them?
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Pony
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:17 AM |
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I am not interrested in the sex roleplay of the character, I'd go to another server if that was the sole purpose. I am interrested in playing a south cordorian girl with a family she has to provide for in such a way so she can attempt to make ends meet and the journey out of that pit. A character not like a daring swashbuckling adventurer or villan of intrique.
That is why I am asking for the clarification on the rules and the purpose of them.
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Yurell
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:21 AM |
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Phearnun wrote: I am not interrested in the sex roleplay of the character, I'd go to another server if that was the sole purpose. I am interrested in playing a south cordorian girl with a family she has to provide for in such a way so she can attempt to make ends meet and the journey out of that pit. A character not like a daring swashbuckling adventurer or villan of intrique.
That is why I am asking for the clarification on the rules and the purpose of them.
To me, that sounds like good RP. You're RPing a character that started with nothing and is trying to work her way up in the world, at least better than what she came from, not some sex-crazed harlot which seems to be the fear of some who oppose the idea.
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Estatica
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:23 AM |
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Selvec Darkon wrote: The Silent Whisper wrote: Selvec Darkon wrote: Ban Sex fully. Sex is not to be rped, it does not exist in the world of Amia. Do that. ..This could lead to some major problems regarding the increase of elves and other long-lived species while having a decrease in everyone else - sure that's a good idea? On a more serious note, I'd say that prostitution roleplay would be alright as long as the actions weren't actually done with a fade-to-black, after which the two would return to roleplaying normally afterwards. Never said it was a good idea. But given that it is a fantasy world...stalks delivered them? Of course, the giant children stalks that are found on the island in the middle of the sea of swords. Every year, people go to the island and reap the harvests of some thousand children.
Or, you might be meaning those storks that deposit children in beer, cabbage patches and chimneys.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:25 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Yurell wrote: Phearnun wrote: I am not interrested in the sex roleplay of the character, I'd go to another server if that was the sole purpose. I am interrested in playing a south cordorian girl with a family she has to provide for in such a way so she can attempt to make ends meet and the journey out of that pit. A character not like a daring swashbuckling adventurer or villan of intrique.
That is why I am asking for the clarification on the rules and the purpose of them. To me, that sounds like good RP. You're RPing a character that started with nothing and is trying to work her way up in the world, at least better than what she came from, not some sex-crazed harlot which seems to be the fear of some who oppose the idea. Oi, don't speak about Xaviera that way! 
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corypx
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:28 AM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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sorry have to.....
its the 3,520th year of Netheril, -339 DR
Man: * takes off his fullplate and helm* its ok I got blessing of protection 
4 months later having returned home from farming bosses for epic loot he sees the street walker who seems to have gained some weight from the last time he was in town and she asks him
Woman: did you find and phat loot?
Man:No
Woman: thats ok in afew months I'll drop you some.
Man: but...but how 
Woman:dont look at me I had no spell mantle up. 
man falls to his knees Man: DAMN YOU KARSUS  _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE) 
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Estatica
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 8:44 AM |
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Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Location: Australia, GMT +8
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corypx wrote: sorry have to..... its the 3,520th year of Netheril, -339 DR Man: * takes off his fullplate and helm* its ok I got blessing of protection 4 months later having returned home from farming bosses for epic loot he sees the street walker who seems to have gained some weight from the last time he was in town and she asks him Woman: did you find and phat loot? Man:No Woman: thats ok in afew months I'll drop you some. Man: but...but how Woman:dont look at me I had no spell mantle up. man falls to his knees Man: DAMN YOU KARSUS Bhaal: unexpectedly filling the world with his progeny since the 3,520th year of Netheril, -339 DR.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 9:37 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Phearnun wrote: I am not interrested in the sex roleplay of the character, I'd go to another server if that was the sole purpose. I am interrested in playing a south cordorian girl with a family she has to provide for in such a way so she can attempt to make ends meet and the journey out of that pit. A character not like a daring swashbuckling adventurer or villan of intrique.
That is why I am asking for the clarification on the rules and the purpose of them.
But why not a girl that has to work in the lower branches of the textile industry? It doesn't make much of a difference background wise. Pick up any D ickens book and you'll find enough non-prostitution backgrounds for a child that are still rather humiliating and shocking.
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Yurell
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 9:41 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Dev Disco wrote: Phearnun wrote: I am not interrested in the sex roleplay of the character, I'd go to another server if that was the sole purpose. I am interrested in playing a south cordorian girl with a family she has to provide for in such a way so she can attempt to make ends meet and the journey out of that pit. A character not like a daring swashbuckling adventurer or villan of intrique.
That is why I am asking for the clarification on the rules and the purpose of them. But why not a girl that has to work in the lower branches of the textile industry? It doesn't make much of a difference background wise. Pick up any D ickens book and you'll find enough non-prostitution backgrounds for a child that are still rather humiliating and shocking. True, and they make you feel sorry for a child. I think the background works well as it is - I know I wouldn't have had much sympathy for Fantine in Les Miserables were it not for that.
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drowmaiden
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 13:39 PM |
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Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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I made a druid drow elf who is a member of the grove and she over time gained interest in the temple of Sharess. Darya does dress skimpy, but all
she does is run around to the forest and back to the temple. Thats as far as I go in reguards to any rp of a soon to be member of the church of Sharess.
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Darya
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Xaviera
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 14:57 PM |
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Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Location: Temple of Love
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Selvec Darkon wrote: Let's put it this way, cybering is banned, it shouldn't be a factor in any equation. You do it, you get banned. Simple as. The solution to situations that may involve cybering normally is "Fade to Black", just like an M rated movie. Then after about two minutes you resume RP afterwards. This. That is, you can fade to black and say "They go to the inn and have sex for an hour". Then you resume your normal RP. A reminder that the definition of cybering is as follows (I needed a reminder, maybe you do too  ): Nekhy wrote: By cybering, or cyber-sex, we mean descriptive, detailed emotes or talk of bodily acts performed with the aim of sexual gratification of the character or of the player in mind. Sexual acts that a normal, non-exhibitionist person wouldn't do in front of their mother are cybering. Kissing, hugging and mild expression of affection and sexuality are acceptable. It's not necessarily the explicitness of the emotes that gets you, it's the fact that you are describing the act(s) at all that's problematic. It might even be a good idea to avoid adjectives before the word 'sex' (like, say, 'kinky'  ). Selvec Darkon wrote: So your character may pay another character to have sex with them. But that rp is not to be expressed in detail. Nor forced, and should not be used as an excuse to charge massive amounts of gold.
Now, whether or not there's any transfer of gold would be a question for the twinking guidelines more than anything else. Players may wish to arrange a token transfer of 50-100 gold (an adventurer would pay more than that for lunch at the Nomad). It may also be a good idea for the prostitute player to advise the other that nothing is actually going to happen for that sum, lest there be any misunderstandings.
I'd suggest taking a level of Masseur and giving the client a massage, but then filling the time that it takes with emotes would be tricky given that you cant detail what's happening in the transaction. Perhaps it would be helpful to have a standard series of brief emotes approved in advance with the DMs.
I honestly think that this is a good character concept. We play thieves, murderers, cutpurses, extortionists, spies, assassins and other unsavoury types from the dregs of society. I think that a prostitute is an equally valid character choice - providing you dont run afoul of server rules.
As Xavi is a follower of Sharess, who is the goddess of prostitutes, I have always wished for more opportunity to interact with the prostitute NPCs. Xavi often visits them to give them gold, beauty supplies, disease cures and blessings, and has advocated in front of the Commonwealth Council that they be provided with a place to live and conduct their business in safety (the request was turned down ). Phearnun, if you play this character, you can expect Xavi to involve herself with her.
I believe that any sort of RP can potentially provide a good role-playing experience - the essence is in the interactions of the characters and the emotions generated thereby, not so much what they're actually doing (which is why I personally think cybering can be valid RP, but that's another discussion). Xavi might never have found Sharess if she had not been slapped and insulted by one of her clients. The setting and a few brief emotes combined to change the direction of her character development changed forever. _________________ ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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IronAngel
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 18:11 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Selvec Darkon wrote: It's the choice of every player after all to engage in whatever RP they enjoy. Within' the rules of the server of course.
Well, I guess this is the key point for me: we don't cater to all possible kinds of play people might enjoy. What falls "within the rules" is completely arbitrary and up to the business strategy of whatever DM Team is currently in charge.
We have chosen not to cater to OOC arena-style play. We have chosen not to cater to the non-English speaking NWN community. We have chosen not to cater to those who want to RP Greyhawk, Tolkien, Bleach or Harry Potter. We have chosen not to cater to splatter-style RP. We have chosen not to cater to cyber-sex. Choosing not to cater to socializing aimed at sexual gratification which distracts players from the purpose of our server, that is, fantasy and adventure, is just another choice.
The rule is simply a tool to control the kind of playerbase we get and the general RP atmosphere. And, as I'm saying for the third time now, you can always contact a DM about your character concept. Whatever you're explaining here, Gabe, is pointless; it's something you should deal with the DMs through the proper channels. _________________ On Joon, Kjetta wrote: The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
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Nekhy
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 18:14 PM |
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Jolly, I am no longer the only DM who speaks of Amia as a business concept.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 18:20 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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It's a horrible way to talk about it, but in this case it's best to admit facts to get access to clear concepts and tools for argumentation. It's still cold and heartless!
_________________ On Joon, Kjetta wrote: The guy that probably has sexual fantasies about masturbation. I mean, Iron, you're a bookworm nerd that even in your wildest escapism fantasies flee to the internet to play the role of another bookworm nerd? Come on!
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Pony
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Posted: Mon, Sep 07 2009, 18:23 PM |
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Joined: 07 May 2005
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Its alright, I wanted to get the current rules explained, their reasoning and noticed that it seems not as a good idea to interdouce such kind of roleplay here, so I will just drop this character concept for amia.
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