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corypx wrote:

Dev Disco wrote:

Dwagin wrote:

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Do we.. need to get one bag for each type of gem?

Yeah, but even with a few gems it will bring your filesize down. It's basically a kinda superstacker.

got anything like that for mythals and heal potions, because 100+ mythals and truck load of heal potions, I'm sure that would lower my number alot.

Why do you need to hoard so much of both?

Silvarus wrote:

corypx wrote:

got anything like that for mythals and heal potions, because 100+ mythals and truck load of heal potions, I'm sure that would lower my number alot.

Why do you need to hoard so much of both?

because I hunt alot and they are all Intermediate and Greater about 65 and 40, so they are not vender loot or worthless, but gold is kind of useless to me so selling thems kind of not happening much.

as for the potions alot of them are crafted back when you would go in just befor a reset and make whats remaining of the mats.

Last edited by Cori on Wed, Aug 26 2009, 21:46 PM, edited 1 time in total.

A mythal storage item would be a massive spacesaver, both for item quantity and filesize, I'd imagine.

I know some people complain about needing mythals badly for port wands, but even my low level characters have a minimum of a dozen mythals within reaching level 10, and it only builds up from there.

I detest having to carry 3-8 magic bags of mythals.

And change the spell components to a gold cost already? When/if my mage gets high enough level to cast igms and timestop, of course I'm going to carry a bag of components around, when there's only one place to buy them. If I'm on A, and I want to go hunting on A, it's too much of a risk to log off, go to B, buy the components I might need for the trip, and then pray to the gods that i somehow am able to sneak back into A.

OR, if you still want it to be inconvenient to cast those spells, make it that the components still need bought, but can be added onto a storage widget.

Also, remove the dice widget? Doesn't the rest menu option do everything the dice widget does? Perhaps see about merging some of the other dozen widgets we get on creation? Surely some of them can be merged or added to the rest menu?

As to bags, gods don't remove bags of holding. But perhaps do what a great number of other servers do, and set a cap as to maximum number of bags anyone is allowed to carry around? The only ones who should be affected by a bag cap would be merchants, and frankly, if a merchant has ten bags of holding full of loot, it's time for an auction, I think. Hoarding a crap load of epic loot is pointless and absurd. Sell it to people who want it/can use it, or lose it.

Cori wrote:

Also, remove the dice widget? Doesn't the rest menu option do everything the dice widget does? Perhaps see about merging some of the other dozen widgets we get on creation? Surely some of them can be merged or added to the rest menu?

A merge is likely best, IMO, there's a few No Resting areas. The end of the Yuan-ti for instance.

Oh...and one other thing:

An arrow storage widget would be a good thing too. With my archer pc's, I keep a LOT of arrows available, because the ammo bag only allows 2 uses per day, and 2 stacks of arrows don't last long.

Alternatively, if the ammo bag was changed to unlimited uses, I'd only need to carry maybe 3 or 4 stacks of arrows, and could refill readily when needed, and wouldn't need any sort of storage item either.

The emote and dice widgets sould be trashable. I personally hate the rest menu tools, and never use them, so I obviously want to choose what I use.

iirc, the emote tool does more options than the rest-menu emote thing does.

Could be wrong though.

*supports unlimited ammo bag uses* I can dump the extras off of my pcs and just have one. Even capping it at 10 a use might help.

*supports mythal storage bag as well* Yes please please PLEASE. Have I said please? Could have sworn I said please....maybe not...but yes PLEASE!

Emote wands and pc dice bags are handy to use in RPing but the wand does have more emotes than the rest menu. Merging is supported.

Nekhy wrote:

The emote and dice widgets sould be trashable. I personally hate the rest menu tools, and never use them, so I obviously want to choose what I use.

Need those for dealing with situations where there are hostiled PCs around.

Cori wrote:

A mythal storage item would be a massive spacesaver, both for item quantity and filesize, I'd imagine.

Cori wrote:

Alternatively, if the ammo bag was changed to unlimited uses, I'd only need to carry maybe 3 or 4 stacks of arrows, and could refill readily when needed, and wouldn't need any sort of storage item either.

I think both these idea are good. Perhaps for the latter the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

Nekhy wrote:

It's not fair to cause DMs excess work, when rebuilds go wrong thanks to big file sizes. It's not fair, that DMs have hard time possessing NPCs to run events when the server is full, because it's lagging so much (some DMs get lucky, like Tormak, but he seems an exception or maybe he's just saturated with lag). It's not fair that other players might get extra server lag from all the scripts running through massive inventories, hogging resources.

Nope, none of that is fair, just like losing some items isn't fair.

She's a Communist!

I'd wadger the file size on Carstina is fairly large, I keep a entire set of spell scrolls of every level of spell in 9 bags of holding in alphabetical order, alot of transmutation pages, a bunch of healing supplies, trinkets, rings, gear, placeables etc....

I'm probably up over 3 MBs!

If I am, I can try to slim it down some, I'd like to know.

Unplot the pearl of the desert ring.

ticket wrote:

:? Unplot the pearl of the desert ring.

I thought they did? I thought you could sell it now. Might be wrong (not a rare event).

I know Illithira is waaay over, but I haven't unarchived her yet (she'd be in the top 10 like last time due to her obsession with gadgetry). When I do, I'll just have to spend time ditching stuff that's pretty useless (there's lots of that on most PCs).

I slimmed down stuff on Elithiel. Driarry is next on my slimming to do list.

My newer PCs don't have diddly squat on them.

Xalyth wrote:

I'd wadger the file size on Carstina is fairly large, I keep a entire set of spell scrolls of every level of spell in 9 bags of holding in alphabetical order, alot of transmutation pages, a bunch of healing supplies, trinkets, rings, gear, placeables etc....

I'm probably up over 3 MBs!

If I am, I can try to slim it down some, I'd like to know.

No, the largest is 1.8 megs and it's not you.

TormakSaber wrote:

Xalyth wrote:

I'd wadger the file size on Carstina is fairly large, I keep a entire set of spell scrolls of every level of spell in 9 bags of holding in alphabetical order, alot of transmutation pages, a bunch of healing supplies, trinkets, rings, gear, placeables etc....

I'm probably up over 3 MBs!

If I am, I can try to slim it down some, I'd like to know.

No, the largest is 1.8 megs and it's not you.

I simply must know. Give us a clue - is it an exorbitantly rich PC?

TormakSaber wrote:

No, the largest is 1.8 megs and it's not you.

It's either Prescia or Yoss, isn't it?!?!

I know I was past that at one point >.>

No, it's neither.

And because Mae'jani asked?

You're the second bigges tPC file in the entire server at 1.5 megs.

Yurell wrote:

Cori wrote:

A mythal storage item would be a massive spacesaver, both for item quantity and filesize, I'd imagine.

Cori wrote:

Alternatively, if the ammo bag was changed to unlimited uses, I'd only need to carry maybe 3 or 4 stacks of arrows, and could refill readily when needed, and wouldn't need any sort of storage item either.

I think both these idea are good. Perhaps for the latter the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

I've been thinking more about this ... would it be possible to have the bag just 'absorb' the arrows, and from then on can be used on your bow to give it Unlimited Ammo of that arrow type?

No, I actually cleaned mine out awhile ago, but it appears I'm still an offender. Grumble. I'll get around to it soon.

o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:

It's either Prescia or Yoss, isn't it?!?!

I consistently keep my file under 1MB so I can export it.
And yes, FULL SUPPORT for the MYTHAL BAGS!!!

Yurell wrote:

TormakSaber wrote:

Xalyth wrote:

I'd wadger the file size on Carstina is fairly large, I keep a entire set of spell scrolls of every level of spell in 9 bags of holding in alphabetical order, alot of transmutation pages, a bunch of healing supplies, trinkets, rings, gear, placeables etc....

I'm probably up over 3 MBs!

If I am, I can try to slim it down some, I'd like to know.

No, the largest is 1.8 megs and it's not you.

I simply must know. Give us a clue - is it an exorbitantly rich PC?

That would be me, with Teshar. See page 2.

Could you please check the file size of Keelie? My acct name is the same as my forum name. No need to check any of my other toons as I pretty much only play Keelie now.

As for crashing the server...yea Thistlefoot crashed the server. He was a merchant & stored tons of stuff. It was a real bummer having his stuff lost but Disco & Yoss worked there butts off to help & luckily Disco found a backup. Much thanks to them. *two thumbs up*

I'd like to be Weighted on my character 'red wizard' Simon Walkaround.
He just recently made quite some Empty pages and filled them up with Text. I'd say i made about ...30, All with descriptions long as the laws of cordor.

Could i get a Weight check? Account Very_Svensk.

*poke poke poke*

Can I get a quote on Sergey's weight, please and thank you.

Any characters actively holding onto the "Drow to Common" and "Common to Drow" books should ditch them. They're ridiculously large. Speak to a DM about recieving a trimmed down version.

Price check, aisle 5, TheUltimateSin, please?

Xalyth wrote:

I'd wadger the file size on Carstina is fairly large, I keep a entire set of spell scrolls of every level of spell in 9 bags of holding in alphabetical order, alot of transmutation pages, a bunch of healing supplies, trinkets, rings, gear, placeables etc....

I'm probably up over 3 MBs!

If I am, I can try to slim it down some, I'd like to know.

You can hand Servinsk some of those scrolls if you want - she would surely buy them.
On topic, I'm sure many more than the ones who have spoken on this thread would find the mythal bags helpful. And I know that upgraded arrow bags would be a hit with all the archer-types out there.

Okie dokes, lets see the size for .Illithira .Frostmaiden *hides*....

Yurell wrote:

the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

can we mythal it to produce arrows with a custom name or have the option of using a mythal on it so it so It will give the arrows the property you select (and raise the price, to produce the arrows, to the right amount)?

It was a suggestion for the ammo bag, so I don't see why that couldn't be part of the suggestion. Or mythalling the arrow before one puts it in the bag.

J.G. wrote:

Yurell wrote:

the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

can we mythal it to produce arrows with a custom name or have the option of using a mythal on it so it so It will give the arrows the property you select (and raise the price, to produce the arrows, to the right amount)?

The ammo bag creates stacks of whatever ammo you use the power on, so all you have o do is mythal the arrow itself, then use the bag on it.

TormakSaber wrote:

J.G. wrote:

Yurell wrote:

the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

can we mythal it to produce arrows with a custom name or have the option of using a mythal on it so it so It will give the arrows the property you select (and raise the price, to produce the arrows, to the right amount)?

The ammo bag creates stacks of whatever ammo you use the power on, so all you have o do is mythal the arrow itself, then use the bag on it.

I was assuming he was continuing on from my suggestion for the ammo bag (which is part of hat he quoted) rather than referring to the ammo bag in their current form.

TormakSaber wrote:

J.G. wrote:

Yurell wrote:

the ammo bag stores one type of arrow, and endlessly produces it when you need them (for a price, of course) i.e. like a bow with unlimited arrow (but taking away shinies whenever it does / whenever it uses 99)

can we mythal it to produce arrows with a custom name or have the option of using a mythal on it so it so It will give the arrows the property you select (and raise the price, to produce the arrows, to the right amount)?

The ammo bag creates stacks of whatever ammo you use the power on, so all you have o do is mythal the arrow itself, then use the bag on it.

Thanks! so is the bag in game? >.>

Yes, that's the bag that's currently in existence - use it on an arrow (or a stack thereof) and it will replace it with a full stack of the same arrow for a small fee.
As to whereto buy them, find out IG

Nekhy wrote:

Frey, just below 800KB. I bet you have some books or items with super-long descriptions that add bulk?

He's a MAGE !!11!111

I'm under 800 Woooo Hoooo. That's a big deal if you consider his stuff a year ago :shock:

.

Thanks.

Cori wrote:

And change the spell components to a gold cost already? When/if my mage gets high enough level to cast igms and timestop, of course I'm going to carry a bag of components around, when there's only one place to buy them. If I'm on A, and I want to go hunting on A, it's too much of a risk to log off, go to B, buy the components I might need for the trip, and then pray to the gods that i somehow am able to sneak back into A.

Already tried to do this and the Frey Hating Alliance came in and trashed it to hell and back. How about just allow the spell components to be purchased at other locations, IE Tarkuul on A, another good location on A, and then the underdark on B - it already has the Monolith.

Really, there's no reason to have spell components for Timestop and IGMS, the whole component thing is ridiculously broken and just contributes to the issues with inventory sizes.

I brought that up then too... alas! Perhaps now is the time for....

I told you!

Regards,

FA_Frey_XC wrote:

Cori wrote:

And change the spell components to a gold cost already? When/if my mage gets high enough level to cast igms and timestop, of course I'm going to carry a bag of components around, when there's only one place to buy them. If I'm on A, and I want to go hunting on A, it's too much of a risk to log off, go to B, buy the components I might need for the trip, and then pray to the gods that i somehow am able to sneak back into A.

Already tried to do this and the Frey Hating Alliance came in and trashed it to hell and back. How about just allow the spell components to be purchased at other locations, IE Tarkuul on A, another good location on A, and then the underdark on B - it already has the Monolith.

Really, there's no reason to have spell components for Timestop and IGMS, the whole component thing is ridiculously broken and just contributes to the issues with inventory sizes.

I brought that up then too... alas! Perhaps now is the time for....

I told you!

Regards,

I agreed with you and maintain that agreement.

Can I get a check on my file sizes? I don't think my characters counted as active over the past month, so I thought I'd ask now that they are.

Yurell wrote:

FA_Frey_XC wrote:

Cori wrote:

And change the spell components to a gold cost already? When/if my mage gets high enough level to cast igms and timestop, of course I'm going to carry a bag of components around, when there's only one place to buy them. If I'm on A, and I want to go hunting on A, it's too much of a risk to log off, go to B, buy the components I might need for the trip, and then pray to the gods that i somehow am able to sneak back into A.

Already tried to do this and the Frey Hating Alliance came in and trashed it to hell and back. How about just allow the spell components to be purchased at other locations, IE Tarkuul on A, another good location on A, and then the underdark on B - it already has the Monolith.

Really, there's no reason to have spell components for Timestop and IGMS, the whole component thing is ridiculously broken and just contributes to the issues with inventory sizes.

I brought that up then too... alas! Perhaps now is the time for....

I told you!

Regards,

I agreed with you and maintain that agreement.

I have this little theory that says "the more space you have in your inventory, the more junk you put into it", thus maintaining file size.

I have a theory that fits in with it: "The more stuff you have to buy just to cast your spells, the more of it you have in your inventory", also increasing file size.

... but, the less big books and stuff you can carry around. Add this to the fact that Wizards are notoriously Str challenged, and I predict that on the long run the components keep file sizes down.

Dev Disco wrote:

... but, the less big books and stuff you can carry around. Add this to the fact that Wizards are notoriously Str challenged, and I predict that on the long run the components keep file sizes down.

not as long as bags of holding exist

Dev Disco wrote:

... but, the less big books and stuff you can carry around. Add this to the fact that Wizards are notoriously Str challenged, and I predict that on the long run the components keep file sizes down.

We already got a storage system for mythals, gems, and resources. Make one for books too! Arrows and books container to help out us Obese amians.

Books are by far the worst offenders.

ticket wrote:

Dev Disco wrote:

... but, the less big books and stuff you can carry around. Add this to the fact that Wizards are notoriously Str challenged, and I predict that on the long run the components keep file sizes down.

We already got a storage system for mythals, gems, and resources. Make one for books too! Arrows and books container to help out us Obese amians.

"Portable Library"? Sounds awesome

Guess I'll chuck out all unnecessary (nice to have but not needed) books then...

Dwagin wrote:

Nekhy wrote:

The emote and dice widgets sould be trashable. I personally hate the rest menu tools, and never use them, so I obviously want to choose what I use.

Need those for dealing with situations where there are hostiled PCs around.

QFE, just in case it was missed in the middle of all posts.

Dev Disco wrote:

I have this little theory that says "the more space you have in your inventory, the more junk you put into it", thus maintaining file size.

Unfortunately, Clucking One, this is incorrect. I can guarantee you this:

If you remove the spell components and just take gold instead, you will see MANY PC's file sizes drop.

Some, barely any at all... some, quite a bit. Regardless, we're doing what we can to assist, why can't you just look at what we're saying and take it in that manner?

We did the same for you and Mother Goose!

Regards,

Oh dear, and I was going to make one of my characters a moving Library. Could I get a check for Sylfwe Snowhawk, my current characters? I need to get an idea of how much I need to give up, I'm sure at least one of them needs it.

Weight Watchers of Amia - for people with large file sizes

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