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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:24 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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No longer a PvP zone?
I wont jump to conclusions did I miss an annocment or something?
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hendrack
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:27 AM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Vienna
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You saw all those mean looking guards in South recently?
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:32 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Quote: You saw all those mean looking guards in South recently?
So armed gaurds makes you unable to attack?
Just cause theres guards doesn't mean someone cant stab you. Sure if they metagame the guards thats a different story. But really come on its the rough part of town regardless if security has been beefed up or not.
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Xiru
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:36 AM |
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Joined: 10 May 2008 Location: Hungary
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You don't need actual PvP to roleplay a stabbing.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:39 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Quote: You don't need actual PvP to roleplay a stabbing
Oh bloody hell might as well have a nopvp server.
No seriously you must've had a reason for turning it from pvp to nopvp. Im not asking for cordor east to be turned back to a pvp area. Im just well I suppose complaining about the fact that cordor south has been turned into a no pvp area.
As I said I dont want to jump to conclusion so if you dont know whats going on then (Not to sound rude) Your just talking for the sake of talking.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:47 AM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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I'm with Nex on this.
Well, I did not agree with Cordor east nopvp either ;P
Whatever the personal opinion, "you do not need the game engine to do things the engine is made for" is never an explanation.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:56 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Quote: Well, I did not agree with Cordor east nopvp either ;P
Okay I would like to see it returned back to pvp but then I remember those days its a toss up whether or not lots of pvp is better then randomly standing in one place for hours.
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ticket
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:57 AM |
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Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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Nex_addo wrote: So armed guards makes you unable to attack?
Just cause theres guards doesn't mean someone cant stab you. Sure if they metagame the guards thats a different story. But really come on its the rough part of town regardless if security has been beefed up or not.
The commonwealth has spoken. They want no more violence in Cordor South, so the guards moved in and patrols the area with the same zeal as the EO nuts.
It'd help if you look at it as simply the most headache free implementation for the DMs of this change.
If you want it changed I suggest start by corrupting the guards, councilors, etc. Then move in lots of gangs in the South and start causing troubles against the guards... make it not worth the effort and too expensive to have guards patrol the area. ^^
Last edited by ticket on Tue, Jul 21 2009, 11:00 AM, edited 2 times in total.
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Xiru
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:57 AM |
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Joined: 10 May 2008 Location: Hungary
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I just don't see the problem. I think this is only a measure to prevent metagaming the guards. It's not like there's an OOC ban on all roleplayed PvP interactions.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 10:59 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Quote: You saw all those mean looking guards in South recently?
And for the record their no longer around by the looks of things.
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hendrack
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 11:05 AM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Vienna
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Possible, since I avoid Cordor with almost all chars like the devil avoids holy water.
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Lesquille
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 11:06 AM |
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Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne
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Make Cordor party PVP, and remove all NPC guards.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 11:09 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Quote: It'd help if you look at it as simply the most headache free implementation for the DMs of this change. Dont see how the change has made it any easier or harder on the dms. Quote: If you want it changed I suggest start by corrupting the guards, councilors, etc. Then move in lots of gangs in the South and start causing troubles against the guards... make it not worth the effort and too expensive to have guards patrol the area. ^^
For peet sake. It was a PVP area up to recently. So why the change? Well obviously you dont know so dont try speaking for the people i'm asking.
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Teufel Eldritch
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 11:25 AM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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I asked this a couple days ago & was told....
TormakSaber wrote: It was temporary as the result of a plotline in Cordor. To my knolwedge it should be rienstated as party PvP.
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Yurell
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 13:31 PM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Nex_addo wrote: Quote: It'd help if you look at it as simply the most headache free implementation for the DMs of this change. Dont see how the change has made it any easier or harder on the dms. Instead of having to posess one of the numerous guards and smash the troublemaker, the engine doesn't allow the trouble to occur. Easier. Nex_addo wrote: Quote: If you want it changed I suggest start by corrupting the guards, councilors, etc. Then move in lots of gangs in the South and start causing troubles against the guards... make it not worth the effort and too expensive to have guards patrol the area. ^^
For peet sake. It was a PVP area up to recently. So why the change? Well obviously you dont know so dont try speaking for the people i'm asking.
There was a DM event involving Cordor South, and as far as I know this is temporary.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 14:09 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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A forum search would confirm that it's simply an error, as the area hadn't been returned to Party PvP after the Cordor South Lockdown was revoked.
And, bloody hells guys, ditch the attitudes would you? You know who you are.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 14:11 PM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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The request to have it returned to PvP was placed quite a while ago, it just hasn't been done yet.
Great job on jumping to conclusions while swearing you wouldn't jump to conclusions.
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TheUltimateSin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 15:48 PM |
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Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Location: Georgie
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I wonder if a script could be made where if you killed someone in Cordor you automatically get tossed in the clink, your portal wand gets confiscated and your home location is set to inside Cordor jail until a trial or prison break, both of which requiring DM supervision to change your home location back and regive the wand.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 15:52 PM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Not so great an idea, because in South Cordor, it is possible to kill someone and get away with it.
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TheUltimateSin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 16:38 PM |
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Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Location: Georgie
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script could be made area wide in East and maybe Central and West. In the south make it center on guards with a large area for sight and a small area for listen around corners. Would only trigger in the south, outdoors, within sight of a guard; making it more likely to get away with at night and in blind areas.
edit: such a script would allow for Cordor east to be made partypvp again and allow for people to actually get into 'to the pain' fights. And people would no longer get to exploit the noPvP system currently in place.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 16:53 PM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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Yossarin wrote: jumping to conclusions I call it extrapolating on a hypothesis.
Anyways, this seems clear enough.
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Grymia
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 16:55 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Location: Kohlingen, and a Basement in Canada
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There'll be a rather unhappy Civic employee if folks start turning South Cordor into a bloodbath zone again. (techinically with the Serial killer running down there, it might well be considerable as such)
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 18:35 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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Ron askled me to return it to the normal settings a week ago but I forgot about it. I did not do a lot of updates lately anyway, see here.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 18:44 PM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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Thanks for clearing that up for us
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 20:27 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Yossarin wrote: Not so great an idea, because in South Cordor, it is possible to kill someone and get away with it.
It's possible to do it in EAST Cordor, shit.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 22:39 PM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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xordae
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 22:50 PM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Location: Germany
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No-PvP zones must die! (If I don't say this in every thread about PvP zones, an Inevitable will come and taunt me until I go outside the gates with it)
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 3:19 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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xordae wrote: No-PvP zones must die! (If I don't say this in every thread about PvP zones, an Inevitable will come and taunt me until I go outside the gates with it)
So long as metagaming NPCs dies with it.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 3:59 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Yes, I can understand the guard needing OOC help with things like arresting some people, or certain other things. But the sudden securing of South Cordor with literally no Player Guard physical enforcement being demonstrated to Criminals is pretty lame.
Just because they are NPC's doesn't mean they should be excempt from doing certain things. Make South Cordor PvP again.
Reasons: Because I finally got to PvP a Brother of Blood yesterday with supported rp and couldn't! You took my chance to shine! 
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 4:07 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Did you... even read the topic?
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 4:24 AM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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You expect players to actually read or fact-check before complaining, Tormak?
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FA_Frey_XC
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 4:27 AM |
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Joined: 18 May 2005 Location: XC HQ Alpha, Sol System, Sirius Sector.
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WonWon wrote: And, bloody hells guys, ditch the attitudes would you? You know who you are.
This should be quoted for EVERYONE.. DM's and players alike.
Regards,
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 4:38 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Let's just all calm down -
It was changed to no PvP for an event, the event is over and now it's changing back.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 5:52 AM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Selvec Darkon wrote: Just because they are NPC's doesn't mean they should be excempt from doing certain things. Make South Cordor PvP again.
*Explodes into hundreds of thousands of bloody fragments*
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 5:55 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Did you guys read the "Reasons:" bit or did you skip over it? I was having a tease.
Maybe I made that to obscure.
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Nex_addo
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 5:59 AM |
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Location: New Zealand
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The rage is strong in you all.
Quote: Reasons: Because I finally got to PvP a Brother of Blood yesterday with supported rp and couldn't! You took my chance to shine!
Trust me you'll get plenty of chances to shine against the brothers.
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xordae
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 6:20 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Location: Germany
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Yurell wrote: So long as metagaming NPCs dies with it.
This, and fun, are the two main objectives. 
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