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TormakSaber
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 Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 6:57 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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I played a 10 wizard/1 fighter/19 PM.
I wouldn't wish that character's fate on my worst enemy. Please do not do it.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Celina
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 6:58 AM |
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Uberuce wrote: ainjyll wrote: That is an awesome idea! Someone tell Disco, because I know he never looks at this thread.
Ruce... PM me your DR III PM build and I'll do it. *shrug* Would probably be fun. I just made my own levelling module. NPC who gives 435,000 XP and a bucket of gold, and has a shop with typical non-uberloot gear for an epic, and some generic monsters of roughly Abyssal standard. Well I hope every builder has a leveling module, but the edge here would be the server specific gear.. 
Anyhow, just an idea 
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Celina
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 7:01 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I played a 10 wizard/1 fighter/19 PM.
I wouldn't wish that character's fate on my worst enemy. Please do not do it.
Hehe thats what I was thinking..
SR at 19 wiz / 10 PM / 1 X = 1d20 + 19 + 6 = 26 min - 45 max (not completly useless although not great either.
retract 9 from the above for 10 wiz / 19 PM / 1 X and you cant ever get a spell through 
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 7:02 AM |
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Location: Somewhere
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No, you won't. Brogendenstein Barbarians and some Electric castle stuff was SRing my spells. When summons (rightfully) got nerfed, it was the end of the only thing keeping the character afloat. I didn't play him much at that point anyways, I just wish I hadn't spent so many DCs on him.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 8:16 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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http://nwn.bioware.com/guilds_registry/ ... &gid=13568
Check that out Amian builders.
For some reason I found the concept of this build delicious. Found on that site, and the idea of slipping out of shadows to dominate someone then jumping back in just seem's so evil. Course you'd have to knock off the bard 2 and just go 6 SD on Amia.
Puppet Master - Wizard 24 / Bard 2 / ShadowDancer 2
Playable 1-28, (HoTU, Aielund, etc)
Human
Use Neutral alignment so that Protection from Alignment won't affect your spells
Str. 14
Dex. 14
Con. 14
Int. 16 (26) (all stat bumps go here)
Wis. 10
Cha. 8
1 Wizard (1) - Spell Focus: Necromancy, Spell Focus, Enchantment
2 Wizard (2)
3 Wizard (3) - Dodge
4 Wizard (4) - INT 17
5 Wizard (5) - Empower Spell*
6 Wizard (6) - Mobility
7 Wizard (7)
8 Wizard (8) - INT 18
9 Bard (1) - Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy, (Dump points into SD pre-reqs)
10 ShadowDancer (1)
11 Wizard (9)
12 Wizard (10) - Greater Spell Focus, Enchantment, Extend Spell*, INT 19
13 Wizard (11)
14 Wizard (12)
15 Wizard (13) - Spell Penetration
16 Wizard (14) - INT 20
17 ShadowDancer (2)
18 Wizard (15) - Greater Spell Penetration, Combat Casting*
19 Wizard (16)
20 Wizard (17) - INT 21
21 Wizard (18) - Epic Spell Focus: Necromancy
22 Wizard (19)
23 Wizard (20) - Epic Spell Focus: Enchantment*
24 Wizard (21) - Great Intelligence I, INT 23
25 Wizard (22)
26 Wizard (23) - Great Intelligence II*
27 Bard (2) - Great Intelligence III
28 Wizard (24) - INT 26
Naked stats
Spell DC's for level 9 Enchantment or Necromancy: 33 - (10 + spl level 9 + Int 8 + ESF 6)
AB 15 - (BAB 13 + Strength 2)
AC 18 - (Base 10 + Dex 2 + Tumble 6)
HP 172 (max)
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This build is based on one I used for my first run-through of HoTU.
I posted a version that went to 40 on the Epic Builders site, but wanted to post a HoTU version as the leveling order is changed to accommodate the HoTU max levels.
The basic concept is a Wizard that stays in the Shadows and uses his Enchantment spells to force others to do his bidding (Dominate Person, Dominate Monster). The Enchantment line can also be use for Hold Person, Hold Monster, etc.
The Necromancy line is for dispatching those that have a *strong* mind (ie. other spellcasters). Dispel their shields and then a Finger-of-Death.
Use your Bard levels to get the ShadowDancer pre-reg stats and if you have enough points, dump some into Discipline or perhaps UMD for Monk boots. The second ShadowDancer level is mainly for Uncanny Dodge (as you probably want Dex-boosting gear) and Evasion (good for miscast Fireballs ).
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Typical battle: Puppet Master walks into a room of hostiles. Casts Dominate Person on the biggest, dumbest looking Warrior-type, then quickly slips into the shadows. As the others in the room are trying to contend with the chaos of having their tank turn on them, the Puppet Master uses a Finger-of-Death to remove any pesky mages. The dominated tank either slaughters his friends (and is quickly dispatched with a barrage of magic damage) or he is killed. If he is killed, the group suddenly finds another of their group has "turned" on them. *cue evil laugh* - "Mwaahahahahaha*
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 11:55 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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23 Wizard/6 SD/1 Ranger is the Amian version, methinks.
_________________  UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Kjetta
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 12:12 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Location: A Clean, Well-Lighted Place
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Selvec Darkon wrote: (...)and the idea of slipping out of shadows to dominate someone then jumping back in just seem's so evil.(...)
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Human
Use Neutral alignment so that Protection from Alignment won't affect your spells"(...)
Get your story straight and save your dignity! _________________ To err is human; to forgive divine, but VENGEANCE IS MINE!
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 12:41 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Kjetta wrote: Selvec Darkon wrote: (...)and the idea of slipping out of shadows to dominate someone then jumping back in just seem's so evil.(...)
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Human
Use Neutral alignment so that Protection from Alignment won't affect your spells"(...)
Get your story straight and save your dignity! I didn't write up the build. I posted it here from the link in my other post. I'm just not that good at building hahahaha.
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 19:36 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Location: GMT+1
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So.. I wanted to make an Arcane Archer.
10 fighter/1 Wiz/19 AA
Str: 14
Dex 19
Con: 9
Wis 10
int: 12
Cha: 10
Pre epic 9 fighter, weapon focus longbow, weapon Spec longbow, blindfight, Point blank Shot, Rapid Shot and Called Shot will be taken.
1 wizard.
10 AA
Epic: 1 Fighter, for epic weap focus and weap spec
Rest AA again.
So, any suggestions feat wise?
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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Leggomi Eggolas
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 19:44 PM |
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Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Location: Oregon ('OR-ə-gən') [-8 GMT]
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Looks pretty good on paper. I only can say that you will look back wistfully and lament at not going bard instead of wizard, or Epic-Dodge Rogue instead of fighter whenever you look at your AC.
No Tumble, No Sun-Soul Boots... _________________ 
Those trees won't burn themselves down. (by Maryn)
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 19:52 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Lament you will. I do suggest 9 fighter/2 bard/18 AA for skilldump reasons. I'm willing to lose Enchant Arrow X if it means getting both the skill dumps and epic wep spec, personally.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 20:18 PM |
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Location: GMT+1
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TormakSaber wrote: Lament you will. I do suggest 9 fighter/2 bard/18 AA for skilldump reasons. I'm willing to lose Enchant Arrow X if it means getting both the skill dumps and epic wep spec, personally.
10 fighter you mean, its level 30 after all 
And yeah, I guess I can do that. Just gotta invest 1 point into Cha, but I can do that. My points will be even then in the end. _________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 21:09 PM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Or you can be hated by Uce and go negative Cha and start on fighter throwing your first Bard level at 7.
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I play: Gage le Gris
Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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Uberuce
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 21:18 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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*clamps on the Punishment Gauntlet, and lubricates it*
Assume the position, Mosh. This one's going to be a kidney bruiser.
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 21:32 PM |
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Location: GMT+1
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MoshingChris wrote: Or you can be hated by Uce and go negative Cha and start on fighter throwing your first Bard level at 7.
Which would not work since you need 11 Charisma to cast level 1 spells, which you need for AA.
Besides, I like myself unlubed, virginal still, and unviolated by Uce, thank you very much.
Not to forget I like even numbers on the sheet. _________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sat, Jul 18 2009, 21:37 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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NWNWiki wrote: Some documentation states that the ability to cast level 1 spells is required to be an arcane archer, but that is incorrect. Only a single level of any arcane class is needed. For example, bards don't get level 1 spells until their second level, but only one bard level is needed to become an arcane archer. The same applies to wizards with 10 or lower intelligence and to sorcerers with 10 or lower charisma. _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 1:16 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Friend of mine has problems with her build. It was supposed to be level 15 cleric/level 15 bg.. ( i didnt do it)...
As for as I can tell she cann't get epic fiendish servant, which she wanted... Because althoughit meets level requiremtns to get the servant, you can only take it on a BG bonus feat (next one is level 16)
Is this right?
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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ticket
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 1:34 AM |
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Yeap. Needs 16 BG for the fiend.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 1:37 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Poor gal _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 7:08 AM |
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Location: GMT+1
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It makes all BG abilities last exactly one rest though, so it is more neat.
And considering she is a cleric she has the minimum Wis for the extra stuff.
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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-Cloak-and-Dagger-
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 11:12 AM |
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Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
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How does a Charisma based Paladin type get any sort of attack bonus? I can't see where the AB is if I build a character with no STR score, no STR increases and most equipment boosting CHA. Bless and Aid is +2, and, I guess there is Prayer Divine Power that would do OK for short bursts at a high caster level. Is there something im missing or do Paladins just have to live with it if theyre not smiting? 
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ticket
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 12:04 PM |
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25 BAB
2 STR (14 Base STR)
6 STR (STR raised to 26)
1 Weapon focus
2 Epic weapon focus
5 GMW
1 Bless
1 Aid
5 Divine favors & Extended Divine favors
48 AB (49 With prayer) not bad for 14 STR. If you got 10 CoT, Divine Wrath gives 5 more AB. Get a barbie drum and slap in 4 more.
Trick is to get lots of spell slots 1 & 2 for all day divine favors.
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-Cloak-and-Dagger-
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 12:27 PM |
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Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
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Not bad. But whats in my head is too heavily multiclassed and falls a bit short of that. Whats a Barbie Drum? I've read that a few times. Might need one!
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sun, Jul 19 2009, 17:56 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Location: GMT+1
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The barbarian leader battledrum is my guess.
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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Naj
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Posted: Mon, Jul 20 2009, 8:59 AM |
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Joined: 04 Jan 2008
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Alright so here was my idea to make a 20 rogue/10 cleric.
i would start with:
Str: 13
Dex 15
Con: 13
Wis 15
int: 10
Cha: 10
Putting all my aditional skill points into Dex, leaving me with 21 dex ad level 24 so i can take my greater dex epic skills for rogue.
il do like:
10 rogue first
then 9 cleric with Evil and Death domain
then 10 rogue taking my epic move silent/hide and stuff
then last 1 cleric to skill dump in spellcraft
Wich would leave me with cleric spell level V for rogue buffs and a backstabbing bitch rogue now would this build work because this is the first build i ever thought trough
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Yurell
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Posted: Mon, Jul 20 2009, 9:07 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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-Cloak-and-Dagger- wrote: Not bad. But whats in my head is too heavily multiclassed and falls a bit short of that. Whats a Barbie Drum? I've read that a few times. Might need one!
It's the boss loot from the Barbarians in Brogendestein.
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2009's Second Most Overall Contributing Player
يمكنني استخدام مترجم جوجل
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Jul 20 2009, 10:12 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Naj wrote: Alright so here was my idea to make a 20 rogue/10 cleric. i would start with: Str: 13 Dex 15 Con: 13 Wis 15 int: 10 Cha: 10 Putting all my aditional skill points into Dex, leaving me with 21 dex ad level 24 so i can take my greater dex epic skills for rogue. il do like: 10 rogue first then 9 cleric with Evil and Death domain then 10 rogue taking my epic move silent/hide and stuff then last 1 cleric to skill dump in spellcraft Wich would leave me with cleric spell level V for rogue buffs and a backstabbing bitch rogue now would this build work because this is the first build i ever thought trough cant offer to much critiscm... Im very agains low caster levels... and dont take death domain unless you take a crapload of cleric levels..
*blows whistels nobody can hear*
Ah.. look teh build monkeys will be here shortly. _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Mon, Jul 20 2009, 10:17 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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Naj wrote: Wich would leave me with cleric spell level V for rogue buffs and a backstabbing bitch rogue now would this build work because this is the first build i ever thought trough It'll work in the sense that anything with 10d6 Sneak Attack is a handy lass to have your party, but everything a Cleric 10 can cast except Divine Power can be found by scrolls, wands and items, all of which a Rogue can already UMD her way into. The BoT version of Darkfire and Maximised abiltiy buffs are handy too, but not ZOMG win things.
The real problem here is that you're DEX-based without Epic Dodge, and you level order is bad for BAB and for ease of levelling(a lowbie Cleric is like taking a herbal bath compared to the wimp that is a DEX Rogue before Sneaks mount up). Go Rogue1, then 8 Cleric, then 11 Rogue, so you're Rogue12/Cleric8, then you can finish off as you see fit.
If you can rejig stats so you start off with 18DEX and raise that to 25, then Epic Dodge is available. A Great DEX feat is very desirable to even it off. Lemmesee....
DEX18, WIS15 at start on a human leaves 8 points left to split up as you see fit.
21 Armour Skin
24 Great DEX
27 Epic Weapon Focus or Skill
30 Epic Skill
Rogue10 Crippling Strike
13 Improved Evasion
16 Defensive Roll
19 Epic Dodge
To be honest, it doesn't matter in the slightest what the remaining 11 levels are: a Rogue19 with that feat list is a viable character. Cleric 10 and one more Rogue is fine, although I'd probably up WIS to 16 and go 11 Cleric if I had to stick to Rogue/Cleric. Greater Sanctuary is a vile and revolting spell that should one day be destroyed, so plainly it should be used without mercy until sense prevails and that day comes.
Actually, I think I'd go Rogue17/Cleric12/Ftr1; same number of feats, better Divine Favour/GMW and it gets Discipline, which you otherwise lack. THAT IS BAD.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 2:39 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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I am wanting to make a freelance assasin type.
I am going to take SD so if you hate me hate on your own time!
I am needing a lot of help, never made a sneak before.
Wish List:
1. Set epic traps even when eneimes are nearby (is this possible)
2. Epic Dodge
3. SuperDuper sneakie sneakie
4. Large HitDice
5. Be able to use a shield when needed
6. Have slightly less squishy hp then normal
7. *insert what op,ruce,chris recommend*
Ideas for Class Levels
19 rogue/1ranger/10sd- Lots of SneakDie, maximum sd, and free dual wield, access to shield
16 rogue/10 sd/4fighter-most damage i think, more epic feats?
23 bard/6sd/1 rogue- for party helper and easier leveling but no hit die
6sd/7wm/16rogue - idk
*whatever is recommended*
Always played in the enemies face melee, now wanting a sneakie type..
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 3:53 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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You forgot my favourite.
19 Rogue 5 Ranger 6SD
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I play: Gage le Gris
Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:04 AM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Location: Victoria, Australia
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Pfft. Rogue20/CoT10.
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Mostly Retired
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:06 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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*14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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ticket
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:09 AM |
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Ranger 10/ Monk 3/ Rogue 17 !
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:30 AM |
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:39 AM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Location: Victoria, Australia
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TormakSaber wrote: *14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT
SD is for talentless hacks who can't cornersneak effectively.
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Mostly Retired
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:51 AM |
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Location: Somewhere
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WonWon wrote: TormakSaber wrote: *14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT SD is for talentless hacks who can't cornersneak effectively. I see a lot of those!
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 4:58 AM |
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the game doesn't like how I cornersneak. apparently, when the enemy goes transparent and hitting stealth isn't good enough, and even on spawns I know I can waltz through if I stealthed before going in.
why?
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 5:08 AM |
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Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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WonWon wrote: TormakSaber wrote: *14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT SD is for talentless hacks who can't cornersneak effectively. Wasn't your chap one of those Talentless hacks for awhile?
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I play: Gage le Gris
Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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jafman30
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 5:26 AM |
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Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: The Land of Confusion.
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Alright people, heres one for ya. Im making a dev'ing Monk/Sorc/RDD (dont kill me!! i dont even have wings!!) Here goes
(1:Monk: Thug)
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(3:Monk: Weapon focus)
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(6:Monk: Power attack)
(7:Sorc: )
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(9:RDD: Great Cleave)
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(12:RDD: Blind fight)
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(15:Monk: Imp. Crit)
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(18:Monk: Toughness)
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(20:Monk: )
(21:Monk: Overwhelming crit)
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(24:Monk: Devastating crit)
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(26:Monk: )
(27:Monk: Epic Weapon focus)
(28:Monk: )
(29:Monk: )
(30:Monk: Great Strength)
Now then, before you criticize on why i took great str and thug, great str (instead of Epic Prowess) makes me end with 30 str, making it +1 damage AND ab. And thug, well it was for the initiative, and i probably shouldnt take it-- oh wait! The chars level 5 now!
As for skills:
Discipline:Taken when possible and restored after sorc level
Heal:Taken always
Lore:Taken levels 1-5
Tumble: Taken when possible and restored after sorc/RDD levels
Concentration: Skill dump at level 30 for those pesky taunters
Well, I think thats it! Tell me any fixes you think should be done, one feat i am willing to trade is toughness if theres anything that could/should be taken instead.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 5:29 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote: WonWon wrote: TormakSaber wrote: *14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT SD is for talentless hacks who can't cornersneak effectively. Wasn't your chap one of those Talentless hacks for awhile? Was, yes. And then I upgraded ^_^
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 6:08 AM |
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Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Quote: Im making a dev'ing Monk/Sorc/RDD (dont kill me!! i dont even have wings!!) Here goes
You need to visit this thread more. Not going for wings makes you even more reprehensible. Especially since you've gone for +4 str +2 con.
Advice. Take your Poxy Sorc and RDD levels in epic so you get more end AB.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 7:16 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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blackvswhite wrote: the game doesn't like how I cornersneak. apparently, when the enemy goes transparent and hitting stealth isn't good enough, and even on spawns I know I can waltz through if I stealthed before going in.
why? I have a feeling it's a Listen thing. It works rounds corners, so to the NPCs you never went out of perception in the first place.
I often get Sneaks coming out of stealth against things that are attacking me, which supports that theory since you're flagged as invisible when you've been Listened but not Spotted.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 7:36 AM |
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Location: London, UK
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Hry n il;d me a smeak u baasstards
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Celina
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 7:40 AM |
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WonWon wrote: MoshingChris wrote: WonWon wrote: TormakSaber wrote: *14 rogue/6 SD/10 CoT SD is for talentless hacks who can't cornersneak effectively. Wasn't your chap one of those Talentless hacks for awhile? Was, yes. And then I upgraded ^_^ Then remove hips already  its a meta-game feat and as you say only for talentless hacks  heh
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 7:40 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Don't post when you're drunk. I also suggest you log off Amia.
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jafman30
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:03 AM |
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Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: The Land of Confusion.
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Hey Mosh, what do you mean more reprehensible? Wings are overrated. And thanks for the epic tip, i'll see what i can do.
EDIT: Well, i did it, with the first 21 levels in monk, 22 in sorc, 23-29 in RDD, and 30 in Monk again, and i hardly see a difference. first off, the AB is the same. Second, My original plan has 19 fort, 16 reflex, 20 will. The new plan has 18 fort, 18 reflex, and 17 will. And for some odd reason the new plan has 4 less hp lol. I took the exact same feats. but one great thing about postponing the RDD and Sorc levels is that i dont have the multiclassing penalties so its easier to gain levels. Otherwise everything is the same. Did i do something wrong?
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Xanon .: Talonite!
Xiladei .: Amethyst Dragon Disciple.
Ryth .: Returning Elven Archer. Missing for some time.
Last edited by jafman30 on Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:29 AM, edited 1 time in total.
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Celina
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:25 AM |
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Joined: 11 Jul 2009
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TormakSaber wrote: Don't post when you're drunk. I also suggest you log off Amia.
aww just teasing..
Am I logged in or what did you mean?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:36 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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I was talking to Pigeon.
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Celina
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:40 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I was talking to Pigeon.
ahh thought it was a referral to my last topic which I posted drunk.. I wil just... /casts silence on herself
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 8:44 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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jafman30 wrote: Hey Mosh, what do you mean more reprehensible? Wings are overrated. And thanks for the epic tip, i'll see what i can do.
EDIT: Well, i did it, with the first 21 levels in monk, 22 in sorc, 23-29 in RDD, and 30 in Monk again, and i hardly see a difference. first off, the AB is the same. Second, My original plan has 19 fort, 16 reflex, 20 will. The new plan has 18 fort, 18 reflex, and 17 will. And for some odd reason the new plan has 4 less hp lol. I took the exact same feats. but one great thing about postponing the RDD and Sorc levels is that i dont have the multiclassing penalties so its easier to gain levels. Otherwise everything is the same. Did i do something wrong?
Can't possibly be the same AB.
20 Monk = 15 pre-epic BAB
7RDD = 5.25
1 Sorc= .5
12 Monk= 9
Total = 14 since bits and piece don't stack cross class
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