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Xalyth
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 5:59 AM 

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A quick question - What are they? What abilties do they have? I've only seen the chaotic evil one, the duel weilding sneak, what about the lawful evil one, and the nuetral evil one?

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 8:30 AM 

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Best to find out ICly don'tcha think?

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 12:24 PM 



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I could understand finding out Icly if it was an IC question. Seems the player is asking not the character. Every other summon in the game is listed in the sidebar with all their attributes. Why not the improved Epic BG summons?

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 12:27 PM 

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All three are fiends. The NE one is by far the strongest. He can toss high DC spells and can buff you, too. But consider that these three are not going to be around much longer. They'll eventually get replaced by more balanced summons.


 
      
Galenson
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 14:57 PM 

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Summons, once again, are just meat shields to absorb damage from the summoner.

Things like this should be found out ICly anyway. If you're after specifics... there's a build thread.

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 15:31 PM 



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xordae wrote:
All three are fiends. The NE one is by far the strongest. He can toss high DC spells and can buff you, too. But consider that these three are not going to be around much longer. They'll eventually get replaced by more balanced summons.


Are all summons being adjusted soon or just the blackguard? And by balanced do you mean weaker summons?


 
      
Xalyth
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 16:09 PM 

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I really do fail to see where this should be something to find out ICly.

Sure I could level a blackguard to max level and find out, ask another blackguard ICly, or Metagame it with another character.

But does a wizard ask ICly about what dragon epic dragon knight summons or what each level of summon creature summons? No, they are listed. It's an amia related mechanical question, not an IC thing.

I was just wondering on a whim, I was looking into the alignments per say not on a power level, just an info level. I've pretty much fleashed out the character roughly. I'm fairly set on Lawful Evil, and I'll be summoning something from Baator, I just would like to know what: I'd wadger pitfiend but then again I'm not sure.

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xordae
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 17:13 PM 

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It's by no means official, but the DMs have stated on more than one occasion that the Blackguard summons need rebalancing. And from that I take that they'll do it at some point in the future. As it is now the NE summon in particular is overpowered.

And no, of course they wouldn't become useless. It takes a lot of investment. High BG level, an Epic Feat and the DM-given book. Don't be discouraged picking the Epic Fiend.


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 17 2009, 17:42 PM 

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Are all summons being adjusted soon or just the blackguard?


I think most, if not all the summons were already nerfed into balance, excluding the BG ones. Or so I read somewhere.


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As it is now the NE summon in particular is overpowered.


Yeah, I've seen a few people use this for PvP, and also quite a while ago, just over six months I think, I even saw a person or two using it to farm.

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