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Arcane9999
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Now I'm in need of a build...
Race: Human Tiefling (+1 ECL)
The classes I'd want to have: Bard, WM and RDD.
The weapon of choice: Scimitar
Could someone develop me the full chart of what to do every level?
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 11:44 AM |
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Dont. Burn yourself now. Tiefling Dragon.. GAH Dont be like everyone else on Amia! But If you insist 20bard, 5wm, 4rdd
Teifling takes away -2 charisma, bards dont have to have dex, and they get enough skill points to counterbalance the inteligence bonus... So by being a tieling bard you seriously hurt yourself.
To use scimitar you must take martial weapon proficiency...
You need Expertise, Weapon Focus, Dodge, Mobilty, Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack, add Martial Weapon Proficenecy to that. Curse Song.
You dont have to have it but Lingering Song is nice, so is extra music, especially if you want to be worthwhile to have around before the end game.
Im assumin with all the Uber-Cheese you will want Dev Crit... well I think its possible, but not practical to say the least.
Since you wont have a level 30, and no bonus epic feats, lasting inspiration can be taken at level 27...
My final thought....
For God Sakes don't do it... No bonus feats, only 3 epic feats... Means crap-tastical... And still a huge amount of pre-reqs for those classes.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 11:44 AM |
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1) Don't do it.
2) There is no 2.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 11:45 AM |
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Uberuce wrote: 1) Don't do it.
2) There is no 2.
*nods*
You can read through my post or just do what Ruce says easily  _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Arcane9999
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 11:58 AM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: My final thought....
For God Sakes don't do it... No bonus feats, only 3 epic feats... Means crap-tastical... And still a huge amount of pre-reqs for those classes.
Then can you counterbalance your critique by pointing me to a better Tiefling build?
And for god's sake, no cornersneak builds!!
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 12:11 PM |
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All you want is teifling... there is about 100 things i could jsut jump out and say. Make a teifer ranger that worships malar. He doesnt love nature, but by his obvious nasty appearance has been shunned and forced to live out there. Get yourself a reskin and get something a bit more nasty as a pet.
Teifers make good dex or intel based anything..
Im against Tiefers though, because of there weakness to some spells.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 12:14 PM |
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Location: Finland
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Bard 30/RDD 0/WM 0 is a great build. Oh, remember to evaporate your demon/devil blood before you make the character.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 12:19 PM |
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: Bard 30/RDD 0/WM 0 is a great build. Oh, remember to evaporate your demon/devil blood before you make the character.
God I love you.... However Im sure he is all set on tiefling for some odd reason _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Arcane9999
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 12:32 PM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: God I love you.... However Im sure he is all set on tiefling for some odd reason
Might it be because this is a _rebuild_?
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 12:34 PM |
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Location: London, UK
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Well it should depend on what you were before, you can change some, but i dont think you should change dramatically.
Im not sure if there is any set in stone rules, but my preference at least keep general theme or at least main class.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Dervish
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 14:18 PM |
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Location: on the couch (-6 GMT)
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Do monks lose their race-based abilities when they hit 20 and become Outsiders? I have a dwarven monk, just wondering if he'll lose his darkvision and +4 AC against giants etc. as a result of no longer being a dwarf.
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xordae
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 14:20 PM |
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Location: Germany
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No, they don't even become Outsiders on the char sheet. He just gains Perfect Self, which is a bunch of extra abilities, and the coolness factor of calling himself an Outsider.
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HellScourge
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 14:31 PM |
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And be weak to anti outsider spells. Well, the monk SR counters most of that anyways.
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ticket
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 14:38 PM |
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Or a Cha based cleric with Good domain and Planar turning.
*Monk goes poof*
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 15:58 PM |
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ticket wrote: Or a Cha based cleric with Good domain and Planar turning. *Monk goes poof* Quote: If the character has twice as many levels as the outsiders have hit dice, the outsiders are instantly destroyed.
You'd need a level 40 cleric.
20 levels of monk is fear immunity.
Monks don't become actual outsiders.
Three strikes!
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Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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Uberuce
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 16:50 PM |
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Two. Turn only shares the VFX with Fear, it's not the same effect.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 18:09 PM |
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Location: London, UK
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*evil cackles* The Power of Monks!
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Deku
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 18:31 PM |
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If the aasimar guy is looking for a power build then Aasimars are good for divine might/shield clerics.
You can level the char as you want, take whatever weapon you want. As long as you have a decent amount of cleric lvls and the divine feats you'll be ok.
Or you could make a paladin with divine feats. Paladins can get those 55+ ab's too.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 18:32 PM |
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Deku wrote: If the aasimar guy is looking for a power build then Aasimars are good for divine might/shield clerics.
You can level the char as you want, take whatever weapon you want. As long as you have a decent amount of cleric lvls and the divine feats you'll be ok.
Or you could make a paladin with divine feats. Paladins can get those 55+ ab's too.
He wants to make a Tiefer _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Deku
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:01 PM |
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In that case i'd recommend a lame SD'er. *shrugs*
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:07 PM |
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Tiefers can pull a Frank Build though you sacrifice a sneak die and feat.
6 Fighter 16 Rogue 7WM.
or
8 Fighter 16 Rogue 5WM if your wielding a 19/20 finesse weapon.
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Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:09 PM |
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Uberuce wrote: Two. Turn only shares the VFX with Fear, it's not the same effect.
I understood that it was still a mind effect and 20 monk is mind immunity.
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Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:13 PM |
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Nope. Undead are generally immune to Mind Effects and they get Turned. "Turned" is a status effect.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:56 PM |
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Wait, so when did monks become susceptible to outsider spells in Amia? I know in lore blah blah, yada yada, they are, but I thought that actually changing their race to Outsider never was implemented in Amia.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:56 PM |
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I was under the impression that you didnt need much Turn Resistance to be considered immune...
Our Tieflings are outsiders and with monk sr at level 20.. Its 30 right. Shouldnt 30 sr be enough?
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 19:57 PM |
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Dark Immolation wrote: Wait, so when did monks become susceptible to outsider spells in Amia? I know in lore blah blah, yada yada, they are, but I thought that actually changing their race to Outsider never was implemented in Amia.
I think we are on topic of a tiefling/aasimar monk...
Im probably wrong...
Or it could be one of those what if things. _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 20:04 PM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: Dark Immolation wrote: Wait, so when did monks become susceptible to outsider spells in Amia? I know in lore blah blah, yada yada, they are, but I thought that actually changing their race to Outsider never was implemented in Amia. I think we are on topic of a tiefling/aasimar monk... Im probably wrong... Or it could be one of those what if things. Ah. Was reading something earlier in the post and misread it with the following ones.
I was about to say make DD's and PM's take Dragon and Undead at 10 respectively then. 
Anyway, figure both aasimar and tiefling could be monkish based upon their heritage. Plenty of horny celestials and demons running around these days... Along with dragons.
Btw, please, have your dragon spayed or neutered. Cordor only has so much room for any more halfies.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 20:39 PM |
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Location: London, UK
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The abnormal.... Our new normal. Teifers, Dragos, PMs... *pukes*
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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HellScourge
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 22:22 PM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: The abnormal.... Our new normal. Teifers, Dragos, PMs... *pukes*
*shoves a tiefling/pm/RDD up your throat* Hahahahahaaaa! _________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...]
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jul 03 2009, 23:11 PM |
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HellScourge wrote: GreatPigeon wrote: The abnormal.... Our new normal. Teifers, Dragos, PMs... *pukes* *shoves a tiefling/pm/RDD up your throat* Hahahahahaaaa! *rehurls it onto Hellscourge* Im LACTOSE INTOLERANT NO CHEESE! _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 1:13 AM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: HellScourge wrote: GreatPigeon wrote: The abnormal.... Our new normal. Teifers, Dragos, PMs... *pukes* *shoves a tiefling/pm/RDD up your throat* Hahahahahaaaa! *rehurls it onto Hellscourge* Im LACTOSE INTOLERANT NO CHEESE! And yet overly fond of Canned Ham!
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Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 2:43 AM |
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Treat or Spam,
Good Sir,
This I ask...
THIS I ASK
Hmmm I know all the build monkeys are twitching, so hopefully someome gets on here and gets a request soon!
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Herr Delta Houdini
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 3:27 AM |
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Location: England
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Wanting to make a Halfling Monk. All I know about Monk builds is that Circle kick sux and I should most probably get Armor skin.
Either un-armed fighting or Kama's are fine, though Kama's prefered.
20 Monk levels at least, possibly Epic Dodger.
Most of all, I want survivability.
Any Monk mad build monkehs about, willing to help?
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Previously known as: Anubis
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 3:55 AM |
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Location: London, UK
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Kama wielding epic dodgey monk.
Monk 25, SD 5 (Best SR but no hips)
Monk 20, SD 6, Fighter 4 (Lil bit more damage per hit and hips)
Monk 20, Rogue 10 (sneak die and extra skills)
Damage will be relatively eh.. cute, but it will be steady stream of 20s or so. Is this ok to get started with?
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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camthrax
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:15 AM |
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Location: In Ur Theatre, Mixing Ur Sounds (+12gmt)
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Hrm... So, I've been having a thought about Cleric/Bard builds, with a melee focus. Obviously the link here for Cleric and Bard is Charisma, but other than that, I have no idea. I'm going for the whole "Preaching by slamming my weapon in your throat while screaming the name of (insert god here), whilst also being able to inspire the lads with a battle hymn or something" thing. CN is a must. Protection, Strength, and War are the domains of this certain god.
Any thoughts anyone? I love the idea of an overzealous priest, but I just can't build to save myself.
Edit: Thinking Protection and War as domains, for the concealment and the damage from Prayer.
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Swallow the Stars
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:31 AM |
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Location: Southeast (USA)
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EDIT: FIx'd some confusing stuff.
Halp. Why am I unable to have a Bard with Dev Crit that doesn't suck.. and will this build be any good? Or would replacing Blackguard with RDD be a better bet? Or perhaps cleric?
Human
Bard 23 / Fighter 4 / Blackguard 3
Abilities:
STR 13 -> 20
DEX 8
CON 12
WIS 8
INT 13
CHA 18
1Bard1 Feat: Knockdown, Feat: Toughness
2Bard2
3Bard3 Feat: Extend Spell
4Bard4 Str +1
5Bard5
6Bard6 Feat: Blindfight
7Fight1 Feat: Weapon Focus Rapier
8Fight2 Feat: Improved Critical, Str +1
9BG1 Feat: Maximize Spell
10BG2
11Bard7
12BG3 Feat: Divine Might, Str +1
13Bard8
14Bard9
15Bard10 Feat: Curse Song
16Bard11 Str +1
17Bard12
18Bard13 Feat: Improved Knockdown
19Bard14
20Fight3 Str +1
21Bard15 Feat: Epic Weapon Focus
22Bard16
23Bard17
24Fight4 Feat: Weapon Specialization, Feat: Epic Weapon Specialization, Str +1
25Bard18
26Bard19
27Bard20 Feat: Lasting Inspiration
28Bard21 Str +1
29Bard22
30Bard23 Feat: Epic Skill Focus Perform, Feat: Epic Skill Focus Discipline
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Mah-red
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:39 AM |
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quick question, is it possible to get epic warding if you take skill focus in spellcraft? or does it only count what you put toward it with actual skill points
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:42 AM |
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It's not possible, period.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:50 AM |
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Champion of Helm wrote: Halp. Why am I unable to have a Bard with Dev Crit that doesn't suck.. and will this build be any good? Or would replacing Blackguard with RDD be a better bet? Or perhaps cleric?
Human
Bard 23 / Fighter 4 / Blackguard 3
Abilities:
STR 13 -> 20
DEX 8
CON 12
WIS 8
INT 13
CHA 18
1Bard1 Feat: Knockdown, Feat: Toughness
2Bard2
3Bard3 Feat: Extend Spell
4Bard4 Str +1
5Bard5
6Bard6 Feat: Blindfight
7Fight1 Feat: Weapon Focus Rapier
8Fight2 Feat: Improved Critical Longsword, Str +1
9BG1 Feat: Maximize Spell
10BG2
11Bard7
12BG3 Feat: Divine Might, Str +1
13Bard8
14Bard9
15Bard10 Feat: Curse Song
16Bard11 Str +1
17Bard12
18Bard13 Feat: Improved Knockdown
19Bard14
20Fight3 Str +1
21Bard15 Feat: Epic Weapon Focus Longsword
22Bard16
23Bard17
24Fight4 Feat: Weapon Specialization Longsword, Feat: Epic Weapon Specialization Rapier/Scimitar, Str +1
25Bard18
26Bard19
27Bard20 Feat: Lasting Inspiration
28Bard21 Str +1
29Bard22
30Bard23 Feat: Epic Skill Focus Perform, Feat: Epic Skill Focus Discipline
Thats all over the shop.
Choose 1 weapon and get feats like great fort in pre-epic. I don't think you can even take half the feats you've listed with the build you've presented due to not meetings the pre-reqs.
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Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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Swallow the Stars
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 5:56 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote:
Thats all over the shop.
Choose 1 weapon and get feats like great fort in pre-epic. I don't think you can even take half the feats you've listed with the build you've presented due to not meetings the pre-reqs.
The backslash was to denote an "either/or" scenario, not both. And the only places I pre-req discrepancies are with the weapon foci and the divine might, which are both taken on levels with a class which would allow such (Fighter gives me martial proficiency, BG 3 gives me Turn Undead and thus the ability to take Divine Might).
I'm just a bit lost. I've never made a Bard, but I really want to try one out. So far, I feel like I'm failing miserably.
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ticket
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 6:02 AM |
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Champion of Helm wrote: Halp. Why am I unable to have a Bard with Dev Crit that doesn't suck..
Good sir, what you need is to use The power of The Horde.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 6:05 AM |
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Champion of Helm wrote: MoshingChris wrote:
Thats all over the shop.
Choose 1 weapon and get feats like great fort in pre-epic. I don't think you can even take half the feats you've listed with the build you've presented due to not meetings the pre-reqs.
The backslash was to denote an "either/or" scenario, not both. And the only places I pre-req discrepancies are with the weapon foci and the divine might, which are both taken on levels with a class which would allow such (Fighter gives me martial proficiency, BG 3 gives me Turn Undead and thus the ability to take Divine Might). I'm just a bit lost. I've never made a Bard, but I really want to try one out. So far, I feel like I'm failing miserably. No power attack or cleave means no BG?
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Swallow the Stars
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 6:06 AM |
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ticket wrote: Champion of Helm wrote: Halp. Why am I unable to have a Bard with Dev Crit that doesn't suck.. Good sir, what you need is to use The power of The Horde. I lawl'd.
Seriously, though.. Tuigan doesn't help much.
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 6:15 AM |
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Ok time to contribute something before I get hell...
MoshingChris wrote: No power attack or cleave means no BG?
That. Drop two from toughness, knockdown, and improved knockdown to make space. Or even maximize spell *Ducks* You can use the Ring of Ram for KD.
For leveling purposes I'd take 1st fighter at level 2, to get you all the proficiencies you'll need. I'd also take improve crit at level 12 and divine might maybe at level 18.
You could start with 16 cha too. More skills.
STR 16 - > 20
INT 14
CHA 16 -> 18
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 6:48 AM |
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ticket wrote: Ok time to contribute something before I get hell... MoshingChris wrote: No power attack or cleave means no BG? That. Drop two from toughness, knockdown, and improved knockdown to make space. Or even maximize spell *Ducks* You can use the Ring of Ram for KD. For leveling purposes I'd take 1st fighter at level 2, to get you all the proficiencies you'll need. I'd also take improve crit at level 12 and divine might maybe at level 18. You could start with 16 cha too. More skills. STR 16 - > 20 INT 14CHA 16 -> 18 Bless you.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 7:22 AM |
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ticket wrote: That. Drop two from toughness, knockdown, and improved knockdown to make space. Or even maximize spell *Ducks* You can use the Ring of Ram for KD.
*hurls a royal boot at you* _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 9:03 AM |
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Ahhh, choices, choices , choices .... My rogue 11/assassin 18 PC needs your advice on choosing his last feat.
Here's the dilemma : Superior initiative VS Epic weapon focus.
His AB is low [+35 with each hand (dual wield) without the EWF]. The EWF might help him hit something once in a while, raising the AB by two for each hand.
Though I understand that having a high initiative is important for an assassin PC and had planned on taking superior initiative at lvl 30.But will it make a difference? (Dex bonus is +13)
Think I should take EWF instead of Superior Init?
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Sokar Rostau
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 10:13 AM |
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Location: Australia
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EWF. Initiative means bugger-all if you can't hit anything.
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Vedran the Mad
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 11:31 AM |
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Take the last lvl fighter and get both of them
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ticket
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Posted: Sat, Jul 04 2009, 11:33 AM |
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Epic prowess and epic weapon focus. No HiPS and 35 AB? You won't be able to hit anything.
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