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Yurell
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 24 2009, 8:36 AM 

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Well, I suppose you could argue that Lawful Good is just as good as Good, but good luck arguing that for Evil and Chaotic Evil. The alignments are:

Lawful Good
Good
Unaligned
Evil
Chaotic Evil

How'd spellplague do that?

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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 24 2009, 8:37 AM 

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when people lost magic in the forgotten realsm it made the users in the rest of the world bleepin retarted to understand the rest of the alignment ideas. now u are all alike, and it sucks!

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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 24 2009, 8:55 AM 

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To clear up the Moander thing after 2 minutes of searching from the FR wiki:
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"Finder was able to slay Moander's real body in Tarterus, and claim its godly essence for his own. Moander's portfolio of rot and corruption, however, remained unclaimed by the bard."


Finder stole the godhood and Lolth stole the worshipers.


 
      
IronAngel
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 24 2009, 9:02 AM 

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Well, that's not correct. He transformed the portfolio, whatever that means. I suppose someone could still assume a portfolio of corruption, but it's a bit too close to Finder. It becmae the cycle of life: from rot, rebirth. Decay represents Finder's pride and arrogance, while rebirth reflects his eventual rise to heroism despite his flaws.

Political corruption, or corruption of the spirit, is already claimed by Gargauth. Finder holds decay and rot, but has reforged it into a more positive thing. I don't think there's any "natural corruption" portfolio left to take.

I already adressed this earlier in this topic, citing three different books. I doubt a Wiki is more reliable than the original sources for this information. Original research for the win, as they say.

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The Great Equalizer
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 24 2009, 20:25 PM 

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You make the incorrect assumption that taking a gods godhood and claiming their profile go hand in hand.

Further more Finder is only a demi-god, less then even Moander's lesser power status and your claim is that he broadened his sphere of influence?

And as for the similar portfolio issue there are many examples of gods whos almost if not directly do overlap eg. Moander - Yurtrus and Talona.


Edit: Although it doesn't look like Lolth claimed the domain either but rather "sponsors" the Moander cultists (basically gets their worship in return for helping them).


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The Great Equalizer wrote:
And as for the similar portfolio issue there are many examples of god who almost if not directly do overlap eg. Moander - Yurtrus and Talona.


Yurtrus is an Orc god, so it's a different pantheon. Meaning, it's okay.

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IronAngel
 
PostPosted: Thu, Jun 25 2009, 8:38 AM 

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I don't make that assumption, I simply know that he both absorbed Moander's divine power and his portfolio. They're not exactly the same thing (though you do need to claim a portfolio to become a god) and they don't necessarily go hand in hand, but in this case they do.

Divine rank is not primarily determined by portfolio, but mostly by number of worshipers. Portfolio is a secondary factor.

How do I know this? I did some original research. I mentioned the three books I used as sources in my earlier post on the subject, and it is quite clearly stated in one of them that Finder did assume Moander's portfolio and holds both rot and corruption as part of his portfolio. I find it quite educational to check first-hand, but I can point out the book, page and paragraph if you don't find it.

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