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maglorine
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 11:24 AM |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Question: How many 1st Level Ranger Spells should a 14th level Ranger with a natural 14 wisdom get (with no gear on)????
Mine has 2 but according to the NWNWIKI it should be 3. Unless it's wrong again.
He hasn't gotten any new spell slots in 2 levels so I'm suspicious.
Thankee!
_________________ Tark Hammerfeast - Immovable Object True Greenspan - Bendir's Boy Wonder
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 13:24 PM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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Ranger spell level progression
level 7: level 1 x1
level 10: level1 x1 level2 x1
level 12: level1 x1 level2 x1 level3 x1
level 14: level1 x2 level2 x1 level3 x1
level 15: level1 x2 level2 x1 level3 x1 level4 x1
level 16: level1 x2 level2 x2 level3 x1 level4 x1
level 17: level1 x2 level2 x2 level3 x2 level4 x1
level 18: level1 x3 level2 x2 level3 x2 level4 x1
level 19: level1 x3 level2 x3 level3 x3 level4 x2
level 20: level1 x3 level2 x3 level3 x3 level4 x3
Should be spot on. x3 level 1 is at level 18
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Uberuce
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 13:26 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Near the bar.
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Yar, but 14WIS is good for a bonus spell at 1st and 2nd level.
Wiki lies?
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 13:34 PM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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wiki never lies.. it just doesn't factor in that bonus spell crud for your wisdom >_>
Anyway, my ranger with 14 base wisdom get 4 level 1 spells, 4 level 2 spells, 3 level 3 and 3 level 4 spells at ranger level 20+.
If I buff it up, I can get 4 on all of them, sure.. but 14 wisdom should give you a bonus spell at 1 and 2, unless you've pudged up somewhere and got a wis drain.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 13:44 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Near the bar.
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Gravemaskin wrote: wiki never lies.. it just doesn't factor in that bonus spell crud for your wisdom >_> That's what I took maglorine to mean - Wiki says 2 spells, so the 14WIS should make three. Thus, the error must be that Ranger14 gets 2 base 1st level castings.
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maglorine
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 13:45 PM |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Sounds like my PC has a glitch.
He should have 2 base spells at 14th level plus one bonus spell from wisdom. He doesn't. Can this be DM investigated?
Edit: Interesting note. He does get 2 - 2nd level spells. I assume they are 1 Base Spell and 1 Bonus Spell from Wisdom. So he gets the wisdom bonus spell for his 2nd level spellslot but not his 1st level spellslot? WTF?
What could possibly cause this?
_________________ Tark Hammerfeast - Immovable Object True Greenspan - Bendir's Boy Wonder
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 14:38 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Finland
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Every wiki can be wrong, children. They're regular people that put the information there.
_________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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maglorine
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 15:12 PM |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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I considered that, but the spell progression on a major class? Next you'll be telling me that the BAB and Base Saves tables are wrong too. I'll have to rollup a ranger in the single player and confirm I suppose.
EDIT: My manual says the same as the wiki. Damn.
_________________ Tark Hammerfeast - Immovable Object True Greenspan - Bendir's Boy Wonder
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Ts_
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 19:21 PM |
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Joined: 28 Jul 2008
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So, I tried it out offline.
Ranger, WIS 14, which gives 1 first level and 1 second level bonus spell.
Format: Ranger Level, spells 1st,2nd,3rd,4th level. If the level isn't there, nothing changed.
7: 2,-
8: 2,1
10:2,2
12: 2,2,1
14: 2,2,1 nothing changed, but this is where the Wiki disagrees
15: 3,2,1,1
16: 3,3,1,1
17: 3,3,2,1
18: 4,3,2,1
19: 4,4,3,2
20: 4,4,3,3
Anyway, there seems to be an error at level 14 in the wiki. Now fixed.
Regards,
Ts
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maglorine
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Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2009, 20:22 PM |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Well, I'll be. They probably got it off the manual which also appears to be wrong. There was a combined Ranger/Paladin spell progression table, in my manual at least.
Thanks muchly for the quick followup. Question answered and I suppose this can be locked if needed.
_________________ Tark Hammerfeast - Immovable Object True Greenspan - Bendir's Boy Wonder
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