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Jan Busta

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 17:54 PM

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Joined: 30 Oct 2006

Was just browsing the summons page on this website and came across the following notice

"Mind that you need a Wis, Int or Cha of at least 20 to be able to cast Epic Spells! "

I'm puzzled. Been to nwnwiki and can find no reference to stats being requirements to cast epic spells. Here's the dragon knight entry on nwnwiki:
"Prerequisite: 21st level, the ability to cast 9th level spells and 22 ranks in spellcraft. "

To cast lvl 9 spells one needs only a 19 in the approrpiate stat.
CAn someone clarify this for me? Is this a modification specific to Amia, or aa mistake? Or me not understanding something?

thanks

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Zante

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 17:56 PM

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Joined: 06 Jan 2006

Amia specific. They wanted to stop melee palemansters from taking epic spells.

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Leggomi Eggolas

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 18:17 PM

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It's a general spell requirement that you have to have a 10+"n" Primary Casting Ability score to cast level "n" spells.

For Epic Spells, n = 10.

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Gravemaskin

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 20:30 PM

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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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Unless you have 20 of the ability score, your spell will be a normal one.

The EDK will be the unmodified version(which SUUCK) for instance.

Sorcs need 20 cha
Wiz needs 20 int
Druids need 20 wis
clerics need 20 wis
PMs need whatever sorc/wiz is using.

and so on

If you only got nineteen, epic spells will be unmodified versions and thus... so NOT worth it on amia.

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Terra_777

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 20:42 PM

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Actually, it needs 20 in any of the int/wis or cha. If you don't have that nothing more then "You need 20 int, wis or cha to cast this spell" return; happens.

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D-Finitiy

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 21:03 PM

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I had to find this out the hard way with a melee palemaster build. Got up to lvl 28 or something, took the epic spells, and got that message. GAH! Self-rebuild. But I'm not bitter. I would have had to do a self rebuild in any case. And then I did another one after that just for kicks. *shrug*

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TormakSaber

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 21:49 PM

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Terra_777 wrote:

Actually, it needs 20 in any of the int/wis or cha. If you don't have that nothing more then "You need 20 int, wis or cha to cast this spell" return; happens.

Yus!

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Gravemaskin

Posted: Sat, Mar 14 2009, 23:35 PM

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That must have changed then.. I remember Sharina's botched rebuild taht ended up summoning a standard and unmodded red dragon that lasted 20 rounds <.<

I laughed and I laughed...... and I got the evil eye

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