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aurelius311
 
PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 5:37 AM 

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most long descriptions are all nonsense anyway, plus the people arent 1/10th the writer they think they are. if i see one more toon with eyes piercing my soul i might throw up.

this isnt worth anyone's time to fret over.

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 6:53 AM 

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aurelius311 wrote:
most long descriptions are all nonsense anyway, plus the people arent 1/10th the writer they think they are. if i see one more toon with eyes piercing my soul i might throw up.

this isnt worth anyone's time to fret over.
_b I was most delightfully amused by this post.

I doubt anyone would have anything further to add.

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 6:53 AM 

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I learned from my mistakes. Two of my PCs have a description that does not require scrolling down, while the other there has to be some measure of scrolling down. :P

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 7:19 AM 

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I demand everyone scroll down and read my entire description just so I don't have another person accuse me of using a longsword, as Torin!

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 10:16 AM 

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TormakSaber wrote:
I demand everyone scroll down and read my entire description just so I don't have another person accuse me of using a longsword, as Torin!


Stand around Cordor Square when I'm there. I'm usually bored enough to read everyone's bios.

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 11:20 AM 

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Azrael wrote:

...if I were the department covering copy writes, anything with D&D stamped on it deserves a second look if not 'void' universal idea, can't copy write it, not even if you change the name slightly.



Jokes aside, todays copyright laws are the root of all evil that kills creativity. There should be nothing wrong in taking inspiration in large amounts from other works, but today you might get sued. I like the norwegian name of the law much better: Åndsverksloven, which basicly means you should be creditet for what you do, not that you necesarily own ideas. Atleast that is what it ment before the evil empires or RIAA and MPAA started lobbying.

"Intelectual property" is just an awfull thought. *shudders*

Viva la cultural revolution!

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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 13 2009, 11:28 AM 

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QPR wrote:
Azrael wrote:

...if I were the department covering copy writes, anything with D&D stamped on it deserves a second look if not 'void' universal idea, can't copy write it, not even if you change the name slightly.



Jokes aside, todays copyright laws are the root of all evil that kills creativity. There should be nothing wrong in taking inspiration in large amounts from other works, but today you might get sued. I like the norwegian name of the law much better: Åndsverksloven, which basicly means you should be creditet for what you do, not that you necesarily own ideas. Atleast that is what it ment before the evil empires or RIAA and MPAA started lobbying.

"Intelectual property" is just an awfull thought. *shudders*

Viva la cultural revolution!


Yup, because I want to spend hundreds of hours working hard to create a story, hoping that it will pay off its cost while some other person copies it, renames a couple of characters and publishes it for his own profit.
Substitute story with whatever.

So long as your work is properly accredited to wherever you are taking ideas from, there is no problem.

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QPR
 
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I was speaking generally. Your example wouldnt be downright illegal from my point of view, but you would be an ass if you did.

To take it to the extreme, the play Peer Gynt is one of the most known in Norway, anbd a year ago or so, a firm took copyright on certain words and pharses from the play, which to me is beyond any reasonable understanding. Copyright on words is juts wrong. Very wrong.

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QPR wrote:
I was speaking generally. Your example wouldnt be downright illegal from my point of view, but you would be an ass if you did.

To take it to the extreme, the play Peer Gynt is one of the most known in Norway, anbd a year ago or so, a firm took copyright on certain words and pharses from the play, which to me is beyond any reasonable understanding. Copyright on words is juts wrong. Very wrong.


So it would be right if I took, out of the thousands of lines of Shakespeare's plays, "To be or not to be, that is the question.
Whether it is nobler in mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing, end them.
To die, to sleep no more."

And published it as my own work, it would be alright? I do not believe Shakespeare is under copyright (although it may be - I don't know), bu I am quite sure that claiming that work as my own would be wrong.

However, if your example is "I wish thee", then I can understand - things need to be unique to be under copyright, and a lot of copyrights are thrown out because they try to work on common phrases.

The same goes with medicine and all that IMO, although I am sure our local Pirate Party will disagree with me.

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I, personally wouldnt sue you for that, as everyone would then just see what an ass you are, if you did something like that.

My point is that I very much dislike the notion that someone 'owns' ideas, and that goes more on a general level than for just literature, especially when it comes to medicines, where copyrights kill thousands of people every year. But thats another discussion.

Plagiarisme is bad. Its not necesarily illegal, but its bad. I think we can agree to that?

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Copyright does not apply to ideas. I can't copyright my idea about a farmboy whose parents are killed and goes on a quest to save the world, but I can copyright the screenplay I wrote about it.

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Lesquille wrote:
Copyright does not apply to ideas. I can't copyright my idea about a farmboy whose parents are killed and goes on a quest to save the world, but I can copyright the screenplay I wrote about it.


Correct. Unless your idea is about a new item, then you can patent it, which I think is stupid. The patent for 'a device that stores media in a digital format' is decades old and the owner of the patent recently (recently = a year or two ago: read it in MX if anyone has access to its records) tried getting Apple to do a payout.

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