I think it is really funny, there is something amusing about people taking OOC shots via IC really isnt there? I would love to take it to its extreme, and constantly say things during the DM story like "this is starting to seem like the sort of plot a brainless writer might come up with" or "the gods must be brain dead to allow a situation like this to occur".
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I think it is really funny, there is something amusing about people taking OOC shots via IC really isnt there? I would love to take it to its extreme, and constantly say things during the DM story like "this is starting to seem like the sort of plot a brainless writer might come up with" or "the gods must be brain dead to allow a situation like this to occur".
There's nothing amusing about it to the people who actually want to take part in the plot, or the DMs. If I ever saw that happen, the player in question would be outta my event faster than they could say "...". I, and many others, do this for our own entertainment as well, and we do not need to put up with just anything.
I actually find the idea amusing on the level of an idea, as well, but I have enough respect for others' enjoyment not to think about doing it. So, this isn't just as you, Wyjyn, but anyone who thinks about doing that.
Me and some pals are guilty of taking snipes like that at lesbian characters with presumably male players. The worst part is that I don't feel bad for it.
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xordae wrote:
Me and some pals are guilty of taking snipes like that at lesbian characters with presumably male players. The worst part is that I don't feel bad for it.
There are bad snipes and then there are those that are just deserved. ;P
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Making snipes in-character is pretty rude, regardless of how much you dislike a character or their player. Haven't you got actual roleplaying to do?
roleplay doesn't get far when you have a group of lvl 30s just begging to PVP you to prove that you suck. it doesn't matter how good your RP, if you are along, you're going to suck, and you're going to fail. it takes some OOC influence to get people into a better RPing situation. it takes an OOC influence to get players into a reasonable RPing condiiton.
Moral of the story is - Don't get a bunch of level 30s riled up with inappropriate preaching about Bane. *nods*
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Aiken Drum wrote:
Moral of the story is - Don't get a bunch of level 30s riled up with inappropriate preaching about Bane. *nods*
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
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Bane might want you to bring Fear, but he also doesn't want you being an idiot and fighting an unneeded fight.
....nor to bring His name into disrepute by losing a fight, or even worse, provoking a fight and then running/hiding.....
Seen it all happen, as I am sure most of us heve.....
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It's kind of amusing that, in trying to defend "RP", some posters are actually doing very well in proving my point for me - whether they realise it or not we appear to be on the same page, albeit different paragraphs.
A few days ago I re-read the thread with the intention of answering a few issues, but ended up with another epic post so saved it to Word for another time. In re-reading the OP in conjunction with some of the replies, however, I realised that during the editing process I inadvertently cut something out, that linked the lowered XP with the quests and an overall improvement of RP, and never put it back in. Since some of the posts in the last few days seem to have addressed this point I will cover it now.
Someone said words to the effect that they think monster-bashing is boring so they rush through it as fast as they can so that they can get into the "real" RP in Epic levels... only to find that there's largely nothing for them to do but spend the majority of their time engaging in soap-opera RP... so that's what they do.
A few other people discussed the issues with Evil on Amia. The single biggest issue with playing Evil is that if you try and do something you will be confronted, and smacked down, by a bunch of Epic Good Guys of Goodness. To have even the slightest chance you need to be an Epic Bad Guy of Evilness.... and even then you need to have a bunch of equally Epic friends with you or you're still going to get smacked down. There is absolutely no opportunity, short of a pre-scripted event, of a Good vs Evil confrontation, of any kind, that doesn't end with Epic Spells. Even when the opportunity does arise players frequently back down, or turn a blind eye, until they are powerful enough to respond/defend themselves.
Drow raids were mentioned as being a right of passage in Drow culture, and yet they simply don't happen because the Good Guys will always win. I'm willing to bet that the Good Guys always win because the Good Guys are a bunch of Epics. A right of passage is something you do at low levels, not something you do when you're Epic... but in order to have even a slight chance of success the Drow have to be Epic to counter the fact that there's likely to be a dozen Epic Elves/Druids/Paladins having high tea in the area to be raided. For that Drow RP to have even a shred of integrity the raiding party has to consist of low levels proving themselves, and yet necessity demands they be Epic because they will fail otherwise.
Perhaps the most potent comment made was "you've never walked into a tavern in P&P and tried to rob the barkeep only to find out he's a retired Epic Fighter, have you?"
Do you see the pattern here?
The surprise would not be that the barkeep is an Epic Fighter, the surprise on Amia would be that he's not an Epic. Everyone is Epic. That merchant in the Market Hall? Epic. That slutty little tiefling in the tavern? Epic. That child running around trying to catch butterflies near Bendir? Epic. That sniveling little whiner complaining about how hard their life as a Kobold/Goblin/Drow is? Epic Wizard that could flatten Cordor and solve all their problems in a nanosecond. And almost without exception all of those Epics engaging in "character development" have rushed to level 30 ASAP, ignoring the leveling up phase as an OOC barrier to the "character development" they so desire.
Amia is flat. It's a self-perpetuating cycle of "The people that I want to RP with are Epic so I have to be Epic to RP with them".
For every one person that is going to chime in and say "Nuh-uh it's taken me three years to get to level 25 because I hate hunting and only level up through DCs" there are 10 more out there that have gotten themselves to ECL 30 in a couple of weeks so they can stand around with you chatting about the latest Tiefling/Elf sex scandal. People that take long periods of time to level up their characters are the exception on Amia, not the rule.
If it had ever crossed your mind that you might be interested in playing a thief character you will have soon come across the undeniable fact that you're not going to be picking too many pockets in Cordor until you have all the Epic items and Epic Skill Focii to counter the average PC's Spot/Listen Skills. You're going to be spending most of your time getting knocked on your back with your helmet removed.
Play an Assassin or Spy? Forget it. That Barbarian you intend to kill, or spy on, can spot an SD from two maps away and has more HP than a dragon.
The same could be said for a vast number of character concepts and RP ideas. It simply can't be done until your character is ECL 30 by virtue of the fact that everyone else is ECL 30.
About a year ago I went with my level 8 character and a level 7 to rob people in the Orc Caves. The two of us confronted a full party and do you know what the response was? They assumed we were Epics and refused to go along with the RP. Even when we insisted that we were nowhere near Epic they didn't believe us (well, one did and was more than willing to go along) because only a pair of Epics would try to rob a full party. The sad thing is that their response was justified.
Similarly, someone related a story in /party the other night about how someone had asked them to go to some place and help with something. It sounded like a trap but they went anyway. When they arrived there they found the expected bandits... getting beaten up by a bunch of Epics.
Another person I partied with recently was confronted by an Epic, member of a well known faction, at a low level and was leveling up as fast as he could so that he could get some payback.
Everywhere you turn Epics either are involved or soon will be, furthering the notion that you have to be Epic to participate. We may as well, as has already been sarcastically suggested, have a Level 30 Lever in the server entrance.
You shouldn't be able to spy on a Drow Matron or assassinate the high-priest of Take-Your-Pick unless you're ECL 30, but by the same token you shouldn't need to be ECL 30 to kill the Piss Boy or eject that random Blackguard from Amia Forest.
The removal of this flatness, evident at almost every turn on Amia, is what I hope would be achieved by lowering the XP and adding random quests.
Lowering XP isn't just about keeping characters within range so that they can party together more than once or twice in their careers, it's also about enabling genuine RP between characters that don't party together. It's about a party of level 10s knowing that the party confronting them, for whatever reason, are all of a comparable level. It's about characters engaging in initiation rites when they are level 10, instead of having to wait until they are Epic. It's about having a rivalry with another character and knowing that the next time you run into each other you aren't going to get an Epic smackdown (and this doesn't just refer to PvP, it could be a Spot check or a Persuade roll) because you were silly enough not to play for a day or two. It's about factions that have many low level members with few Epics at the top, rather than an army of ECL 30s led by an ECL 30. It's also about the randomness of meeting characters outside of your OOC clique and forming IC relationships with them without having to wait until they/you are Epic. In short, it's about shifting the average level from ECL 30 to ~15.
I am not advocating a server-wipe or anything of the kind, nor am I suggesting a move to the glacial XP rates seen on some servers where it takes you years to level up, but Epic characters really should be the exception, not the rule. As things stand players are given Epic levels on a platter without having to work for it. If you want an Epic character you should have to work for it.
BTW, Sounds, you're over-thinking things. The difference between a dog and a fox is three beers. Bad things happen because you go home with Angelina Jolie but wake up with Rosie O'Donnell.
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About a year ago I went with my level 8 character and a level 7 to rob people in the Orc Caves. The two of us confronted a full party and do you know what the response was? They assumed we were Epics and refused to go along with the RP. Even when we insisted that we were nowhere near Epic they didn't believe us (well, one did and was more than willing to go along) because only a pair of Epics would try to rob a full party. The sad thing is that their response was justified.
That's a very funny story.
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It's about factions that have many low level members with few Epics at the top, rather than an army of ECL 30s led by an ECL 30.
P.S.
The Knights of the Triad have about 14 more-or-less-active members, of which three are level 30. Including inactive members would make the percentage of sub-30 characters a lot higher.
Both Sokar and Tormak have a point here. Yes everyone has super high modifiers that stop you from doing anything and yes the problem can be found directly between the eyes of Amias players.
I'd fix this with the classic, 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Just because you can stop someone, doesn't mean you have to.
Like when I sneaked into Shadowflame Manor, past the Shadowflames, only to be told that there was no way in hell I could get past the guards... the guards for crying out loud! I was a Level 27 SD and ordinary guards were ALWAYS going to spot me.
Both Sokar and Tormak have a point here. Yes everyone has super high modifiers that stop you from doing anything and yes the problem can be found directly between the eyes of Amias players.
I'd fix this with the classic, 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Just because you can stop someone, doesn't mean you have to.
I agree that Bored Epics don't need to come flocking out of Cordor's giggling rain to every single lowbie drama, but I don't think you can criticise an epic for doing their IC job if they're on sentry duty out by their faction area.
Both Sokar and Tormak have a point here. Yes everyone has super high modifiers that stop you from doing anything and yes the problem can be found directly between the eyes of Amias players.
I'd fix this with the classic, 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Just because you can stop someone, doesn't mean you have to.
Like when I sneaked into Shadowflame Manor, past the Shadowflames, only to be told that there was no way in hell I could get past the guards... the guards for crying out loud! I was a Level 27 SD and ordinary guards were ALWAYS going to spot me.
Shadowflame is a stupid exception. No offense, SF dudes.
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The whole problem with the epic thing is unavoidable. Lower the xp a hunderd fold and there still will be people who have way to much free time that will get a lot higher level a lot sooner and be comparable "epic" Limit the game at lv5 and everyone will just be emo playing on the square a lot sooner.
It's a fundamental flaw in whole of D&D and such. A while ago I made a D&D campaine based on a story that I've been writing, keeping as close to a true medieval sociaty as possible. Wen making player characters we soon reached the conclusion that anyone can by use of the right player books make a character able to destroy a small army of regular well trained humans at lv3. There is nothing balanced about it, it's just a fun little game gotten completely out of hand and should actually be completely rebuild from the ground up, but there's no capatalist gain in that.
The only way to effectively solve the problem is to introduce perma death. When you die, don't care how or why say goodbye to your character! That will level everything out and drive every single player away frm the server. Not mainly because we'd all have to restart at lv1 or else some lv30 death gridters are going kill off everyone anyway.
I don't see why our particular guards are impossible to sneak by, really. I don't see why any guards would be.
It's because you got your guards years ago, back when there was less control on factional balance (there was no factions, as we know them now). They're beefier than many city guards. Nothing like that could get approved anymore, because it's completely unbalanced and breaks the game.
It's the Grandfather Clause that has let you keep them.
Only having read the two large posts by Sokar (the Original one and the one on this page), what I can say is that I agree whole-heartedly. I have seen/been involved in several of the situations he's described, and experienced much the same things. I've played on a few servers in my time since I bought NWN, and while Amia has been the overall best for me, one of the things I did like about its "sister server" Arelith is that it takes a while to get to higher levels. (At least for me, and in my time there all the ones I ran with stayed around my range, which was rather awesome). They've apparently implemented a method like Sokar's, making the XP rate lower, spawn count lower, or something like that.
For whatever it counts (which is probably not a great deal, I'm aware), I'm throwing my hat in with him.
hadeismetirion wrote:
Lower the xp a hunderd fold and there still will be people who have way to much free time that will get a lot higher level a lot sooner and be comparable "epic"
A few people, yes. But as the majority slowly adjusts into having a more at-ease leveling pace, the pressure to level itself will lift, and the number of these people will decrease and decrease until it's just the odd case cropping up ever month or so. I believe that's the intent, anyway.
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Face it we're stuck with what we got. I've played plenty another server or game and Amia is as good as it's going to get, there are a few comparable places but you'll have the same discussion there. I suppose a huge influx of DM's might improve things. A DM for every area, but then people are whining about the few DM's we have now, let alone if we had 50 of them.
Basicly it comes down to this. Accept things or play WoW.
I don't see why our particular guards are impossible to sneak by, really. I don't see why any guards would be.
It's because you got your guards years ago, back when there was less control on factional balance (there was no factions, as we know them now). They're beefier than many city guards. Nothing like that could get approved anymore, because it's completely unbalanced and breaks the game.
It's the Grandfather Clause that has let you keep them.
I thought they were supposed to get nerfed long ago.
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Here is a belated and preemptive "(censored) you" to any player who shows up at a DM Event with a PC only to type the following things:
"....." *yawns* "...so boring."
Or any variation of the above. Sure, you may be "roleplaying your PC as he/she should be played", but still.
those guys suck so much c0ck, its just like showing up just to be an ass to the dm or whoever is running the thing
It is a side effect of a funny phenomenon: Appearing everywhere with DM attention even if you have absolutely nothing to do there.
I use it .... when something surprises me to the speechless sense. It is like what in hell?? I can type what in hell too, but both usually means the same thing.
Now, I dont mind the Shadowflames having the best guards. I think that by being one of the oldest organizations in Amia their guards would have learned how to deal with the pest known as SD.
I am soooo tired of people complained about epic players and their PvP. This type of complaint is what kills Amia evil RP. You get sooo much mess oocly about your build being too much, about you killing my char, about you being chaotic and such, that evil got stuck without nothing to do. Worse, they are becoming good folks. They are turning into War Knights and other organizations that accept those who repent. I think honestly something should be done to help the evil side. We gotta have someone to fight and something to fight for. I am so glad when I see an evil drow wanting to kill me from time to time. Gods, I almost kneel and say thank you.
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Delarwyn wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Moridan_X wrote:
Yossarin wrote:
Oh, this is a venting thread? If so...
Here is a belated and preemptive "(censored) you" to any player who shows up at a DM Event with a PC only to type the following things:
"....." *yawns* "...so boring."
Or any variation of the above. Sure, you may be "roleplaying your PC as he/she should be played", but still. :x
those guys suck so much c0ck, its just like showing up just to be an ass to the dm or whoever is running the thing
It is a side effect of a funny phenomenon: Appearing everywhere with DM attention even if you have absolutely nothing to do there.
I use it .... when something surprises me to the speechless sense. It is like what in hell?? I can type what in hell too, but both usually means the same thing.
I think it is fair to use ellipses when they're followed by an emote ... they represent your surprised/shocked/bemused expression.
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I use it .... when something surprises me to the speechless sense. It is like what in hell?? I can type what in hell too, but both usually means the same thing.
You use:
*yawns*
"...so boring."
as "What in hell?". That's... unique.
// Yes I know you were referring to just the "..."s. The blanket quote just got me tempted though.
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Well lets try this for a change.
You know what mine new number one problem is with Amia RP? It's not the epic thing, it's not the "ha I'm going to pvp you because I'm in a bad ooc mood", it's not the constand emo play on codor square, it's not people trying to push the no cyber rule as far as it can go, it's not people with a shallow understanding of the cultural subtleties of their races, it's most certainly not the dm's, it's not everyone knowing how to run Amia better Disco and all slaving away for us trying to entertain our every whim. It's this forum! Yes that's right! the endless whining about everything on here. That's what annoys me! And I'm going to take a page of my own book: "If you don't like it stay out of it" So I'm not going to read these things again, I'm not going to bother I'm just going to log on and play and have a good time, and if that means hunting all day to gain five more epic levels, or hanging out at the square or blisfully going on after gettting killed, so be it. If it's a problem I'm sure the DM's will ban me.
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If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to prevent it and damn the consequences.
I believe that applies to your situation, hade :)
Although personally I don't see anything wrong, apart from the occasional idiot (and there's always one of those no matter where yo go, just running around with familiars in a city etc).
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Yeah, but not entirely. Hypothetically speaking, if you took away the people's ability to discuss IC matters in OOC terms.. there'd be some positive effects such as less metagaming, less whining and more rolling with the punches. But the problems in game are there. Many, if not most of them are being discussed. To some, there are even good solutions being found. Taking away a forum does not magically make the game better, it'll just give the people no chance to complain. What you don't perceive doesn't exist?
I suppose you were just hinting at yet another problem in a line of problems, namely the forum... since you as well mentioned numerous other problems and called them not really problems, but phantoms (I'd disagree with that). Your initiative to go in game and enjoy yourself should be picked up by those notorious complainers, though. Kind of the reason for why we're all here in the first place, isn't it? And if it's not... if the people have come so far that they can't log in and enjoy the game, spending your time on the forum, and in a bad mood, doesn't help as much as it could, either.
and I never read the small writing just so you know... If I cannot read without effort I will read something else.
Gotcha.
Also, it's a sad downside of forums that makes it a vent for general moaning about anything that doesn't suit you, but if you look at the positives, they're a great deal more. Actual problems can get discussed and solved, RP events can be organised, new players can get familiar with the server quicker...
You just sometimes grit your teeth through the necessary evils.
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The whole problem with the epic thing is unavoidable. Lower the xp a hunderd fold and there still will be people who have way to much free time that will get a lot higher level a lot sooner and be comparable "epic" Limit the game at lv5 and everyone will just be emo playing on the square a lot sooner.
It's a fundamental flaw in whole of D&D and such.
The only way to effectively solve the problem is to introduce perma death.
Basically, this. Without permadeath, the number of epics will only increase. Of course, few people want permadeath in a 'RP-lite' PW.
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The 'flaw' isn't in the system, or the machine, by that extension the module or the way it plays out. It is in people's minds. The real flaw is hubris in this that 'it is someone else is to blame' if you're not having fun. I assume that the server was fun for you at one point, but it has ceased to be now. Amia's core concept has not changed. It caters to the many, allows many freedoms of expression and is intolerant of those who would flame.
Amia's a big server, there's plenty of space for all 1001+ flavors of Ice-cream. And by ice-cream I mean RP styles. If you don't like Rocky Road, (Cordor Square RP) don't eat it, find a flavor you like, or invent your own, as long as you and others have fun with it and it's within the rules, why give a banana-split what everyone else does or is doing? That's the staff's job, not ours.
I use to be an enemy of my own fun, I stopped doing that. I suggest concerning yourself with your own RP and own characters, how you play them, and have fun doing so, how you involve others in this fun. This is a far more productive use of time, in my opinion.
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It all comes down to the previous post where i said alot of people want people to RP a certain way and they wont have fun unless other people RP exactly the same way they do.
There is a fine line between RPing with someone, and wanting to enforce your RP on another person just so you can have fun doing RP with them
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Nekhy wrote:
Dakotaen wrote:
I don't see why our particular guards are impossible to sneak by, really. I don't see why any guards would be.
It's because you got your guards years ago, back when there was less control on factional balance (there was no factions, as we know them now). They're beefier than many city guards. Nothing like that could get approved anymore, because it's completely unbalanced and breaks the game.
It's the Grandfather Clause that has let you keep them.
...
Change it anyway? If it's "completely unbalanced and breaks the game" Who cares if it's grandfather clause? It's for the server health they be fixed, and balanced to match the rest of the server.
Amia's a big server, there's plenty of space for all 1001+ flavors of Ice-cream. And by ice-cream I mean RP styles. If you don't like Rocky Road, (Cordor Square RP) don't eat it, find a flavor you like, or invent your own, as long as you and others have fun with it and it's within the rules, why give a banana-split what everyone else does or is doing? That's the staff's job, not ours.
'Who cares if we can make 101 varieties of ice cream if we can't get Vanilla right?' - some guy from some film I forget who.
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The 'flaw' isn't in the system, or the machine, by that extension the module or the way it plays out. It is in people's minds.
Yes and no. The mechanics impose certain conditions on the game world - in Amia, level advancement plus lack of level caps plus cheap raises equals a preponderance of epics. People who complain about these facts are raging against the machine, which is pointless. You can try to make up 'reasons' why things are the way they are, but that still requires accepting it.
Halecta wrote:
There is a fine line between RPing with someone, and wanting to enforce your RP on another person just so you can have fun doing RP with them
If you cant wrap your head around certain 'realities' of the game world, then dont go to the places where those things stare you in the face. If epic beggars and bartenders irk you, stay out of Cordor, but dont slag others who do live in that part of the game world and enjoy it there.
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Guys, know where all these problems are coming from?
It's because you're all so serious..
meh, childish RP is like my enemy as well as freaks. ya know, the standard dragon/elf/demon/drows
standard stuff, even the NPCs make a great note about the situation, as well as a boat man who states something along the lines of cordor being the land of the freaks.
i liek the boat man.
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I liek Jean Ortega as a character because it shows that everyone can be different. I also don't think we should incorporate mean behavior in video games.
The 'flaw' isn't in the system, or the machine, by that extension the module or the way it plays out. It is in people's minds. The real flaw is hubris in this that 'it is someone else is to blame' if you're not having fun. I assume that the server was fun for you at one point, but it has ceased to be now. Amia's core concept has not changed. It caters to the many, allows many freedoms of expression and is intolerant of those who would flame.
Amia's a big server, there's plenty of space for all 1001+ flavors of Ice-cream. And by ice-cream I mean RP styles. If you don't like Rocky Road, (Cordor Square RP) don't eat it, find a flavor you like, or invent your own, as long as you and others have fun with it and it's within the rules, why give a banana-split what everyone else does or is doing? That's the staff's job, not ours.
I use to be an enemy of my own fun, I stopped doing that. I suggest concerning yourself with your own RP and own characters, how you play them, and have fun doing so, how you involve others in this fun. This is a far more productive use of time, in my opinion.
Yeah, i agree with this.
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