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Richard_Edmund
 
PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 8:16 AM 

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Negative Energy Burst seems to have taken a heavy hit in its strength damage/buff duration as it now only lasts 3 minutes for a pure caster. Whereas it used to be permanent.

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 9:07 AM 

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3 Minutes equates to 30 rounds, was it 30 minutes before? That would be 30 turns. Not sure what it is supposed to be.

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 9:10 AM 

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Meant to be permanent, or at least that's what it used to be.

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 13:36 PM 

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Not a bug. The duration was shortened the same time we made the change to allow PCs to be Undead, dragon, etc.

This is so an Undead PC could not gain a permanent +7 STR from the spell. Rounds/level +7 STr is still very good when you consider Aura of Vitality is level 7 for a +4 to 3 stats - and a larger gain in one stat is more valuable.

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 14:19 PM 



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I really don't want to annoy anyone with my constant reminders... :(

Could this please be updated to the "modified spells" to the left?


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 14:50 PM 

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Jesus.. How many undead PCs are there to constitute this level of a change?

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 14:54 PM 

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While I agree that changing it to avoid Undead PCs to have a permanent stat gain we could perhaps revisit the duration of the spell buff to bring it in line with Bull's Strength. Making it hour/level rather than rounds/level?

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 15:11 PM 

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Silkelock wrote:
While I agree that changing it to avoid Undead PCs to have a permanent stat gain we could perhaps revisit the duration of the spell buff to bring it in line with Bull's Strength. Making it hour/level rather than rounds/level?


It would stack with bulls strength still.

Also regardless the changes should be listed here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=56068

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PostPosted: Thu, Mar 31 2016, 15:13 PM 

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robbi320 wrote:
I really don't want to annoy anyone with my constant reminders... :(

Could this please be updated to the "modified spells" to the left?


Agree. I'd also request that these 'shadow' updates, for lack of a better term(I'm not under the impression these are being hidden or anything), stop being a thing- if they are a thing. I know of at least one other semi recent unlisted change concerning shifters, as one example. I assume there's more. If there's not, sorry!

edit: oops the other shifter change was posted, I'm high

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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 01 2016, 15:12 PM 

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Yes you're right, info added on the spells list now. Sorry about missing it.

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