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Theander
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Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2013, 4:39 AM |
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Having said, I personally love to see the inventiveness of players and characters in designing their own curses and swear words, but that's a personal plus for me because the expectation is lower.
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Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2013, 5:15 AM |
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Also take into account what may be offencive and obscene in the setting wont hold the weight to the person so might not get the same effect.
Someone calling you a "Son of a Motherless Goat" might be the most offencive saying in the FR setting but it has limited effect on the person because they dont view it as such because it loses something in translation given this day and age and in terms has no effect on the PC. If you instead called him "fucking bastard of a whore" it might seem more harsh.
Bastard "A child whose birth lacks legal legitimacy—that is, one born to a woman and a man who are not legally married"
Lets say I was trying to offend a dragon kin and called them a "some bastard dragon" chances are they would brush it off as a minor insult but if I said "Your some dragons rape baby." that would piss them off alot even if I am implying more or less the same thing in both statments.
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Theander
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Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2013, 5:28 AM |
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^^^^ That's also a very good point. What we as players perceive and what our characters perceive are very different things.
I like to think thta the thing to remember is that, things mean different things In Character. If you hear someone say 'f*ck' or something else, your character should ask 'what does that mean' or 'why would you say that', or turn around and go 'oi, language!' or 'I'll make you pay for that!', or will barely notice because they don't perceive it as offensive enough to concern themselves with.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2013, 8:39 AM |
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I haven't looked into the matter at all, and I don't study the history of language. However, at the risk of pointing out the obvious: you won't find written references to "fuck" from before the Late Middle Ages because, you know, people didn't write in the vernacular. The volume of Middle English texts from the 14th and even the 15th century is relatively low (and AFAIK, virtually nonexistant before that) so finding a reference to a specific word would be highly unlikely. Especially since what was written was devotional literature: translations of liturgical texts, biblical commentaries, a few hagiographies, instructive letters from spiritual authorities to laymen or nuns/monks (the likeliest source of such a reference). Margery Kempe or Richard Rolle would not use the word in the genre they write even if they knew it. Chaucer, Hoccleve and co. were exceptional and represented a very narrow strip of society. There are probaby hundreds of words they didn't use in their writing. We don't have manuscripts of a 14th century conversation, and the literary culture of the time was completely different from ours.
I do agree when Yossarin says it's not a medieval setting. But the literary culture and, I think, the common tone of life closely resembles our Middle Ages. And frankly, life in Europe to the 17th century was very "medieval." So we should indeed evaluate whether certain phenomena fit our setting from a historical perspective. Not simplistically by comparing dates, but by checking to see if the prerequisite historical processes are there. When it comes to language, though, we don't really have much to go on. English represents Common, so we're all actually translating the world to a modern language. I can think of many individual words that are more out-of-place than a good old fuck.
The Common word for fuck is actually tluin. It's well-documented in Realms literature and seems to parallel the different uses of the English fuck. Use that if you want, but it doen't quite have the same impact to my ears. Hrast means something like damn.
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Theander
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Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2013, 9:11 AM |
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^^^^
Also another fantastic point.
A lot of this comes down (in part) to the question of 'what inspires us' (also what we 'like') and what is 'fact'. The two are not mutually exclusive, the trick is knowing the difference and not treating one as the other.
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Daimondheart
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 3:15 AM |
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IronAngel wrote: I haven't looked into the matter at all, and I don't study the history of language. However, at the risk of pointing out the obvious: you won't find written references to "fuck" from before the Late Middle Ages because, you know, people didn't write in the vernacular. The volume of Middle English texts from the 14th and even the 15th century is relatively low (and AFAIK, virtually nonexistant before that) so finding a reference to a specific word would be highly unlikely. Especially since what was written was devotional literature: translations of liturgical texts, biblical commentaries, a few hagiographies, instructive letters from spiritual authorities to laymen or nuns/monks (the likeliest source of such a reference). Margery Kempe or Richard Rolle would not use the word in the genre they write even if they knew it. Chaucer, Hoccleve and co. were exceptional and represented a very narrow strip of society. There are probaby hundreds of words they didn't use in their writing. We don't have manuscripts of a 14th century conversation, and the literary culture of the time was completely different from ours.
I do agree when Yossarin says it's not a medieval setting. But the literary culture and, I think, the common tone of life closely resembles our Middle Ages. And frankly, life in Europe to the 17th century was very "medieval." So we should indeed evaluate whether certain phenomena fit our setting from a historical perspective. Not simplistically by comparing dates, but by checking to see if the prerequisite historical processes are there. When it comes to language, though, we don't really have much to go on. English represents Common, so we're all actually translating the world to a modern language. I can think of many individual words that are more out-of-place than a good old fuck.
The Common word for fuck is actually tluin. It's well-documented in Realms literature and seems to parallel the different uses of the English fuck. Use that if you want, but it doen't quite have the same impact to my ears. Hrast means something like damn. Tluin? Really? I didn't think there was a "Common" version of the word. Or even the existence of Hrast for that matter. Is there any reference page on the web that has these listed? I'd like to use them.
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 15:27 PM |
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honerstly i think faerun is way more 15-16 century anyway...just never invented gunpowder and they defiantly used fuck in the 16th century
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Yossarin
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 16:32 PM |
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I think you mean "definitely", but the idea of someone "defiantly" using the word fuck makes me laugh.
Cordorian Law Knight: "Put your hands in the air, Dick! We've got you cornered!" Richard: *Smirks disobediently* "Fuck."
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 16:53 PM |
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Can we also dramatically use the word 'fuck'?
*the anguished man drops to his knees as the rain pours down, his arms uplifting with fingers curled like claws to the sky, and he bellows in a mix of despair and a thirst for revenge* Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! *thunder crashes*
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Coil
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 17:05 PM |
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Naivatkal wrote: *the anguished man drops to his knees as the rain pours down, his arms uplifting with fingers curled like claws to the sky, and he bellows in a mix of despair and a thirst for revenge* Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! *thunder crashes* That sounds about as dramatic as watching AVGN. I wouldn't mind being entertained by people attempting to make anything decent of it, though.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 17:19 PM |
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Lesson number seven, kids. Don't be a dick. ಠ_ಠ
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Bini
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 17:26 PM |
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The preceding lesson is number six, child. Don't bring dickery upon yourself. (⌐■_■)
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 17:52 PM |
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Lesson's number one through five are: Don't let Bini try to troll.
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 17:54 PM |
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I love how this turned into the contest of who places the apparition of the word fuck the most accurately in our human timeline... Our world and the FR setting are two totally different worlds with different histories, so I don't see so much how our language history would come into much comparison for races that, for most of them, never did and never will exist. It just doesn't make sense hearing an elf swear in Earth humans 21st century words. I spent a few years on Amia, and only recently enough have I started to see the F word appear...
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Yossarin
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 18:01 PM |
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I still stick by my previous statement. Nothing intrinsically wrong with its use, so long as it fits the scenario and situation. Like any other word, it has a certain power, and used in the wrong context it falls flat and only results in making one think the player, not the character, is infantile. You just have to have a sense of these things.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 18:24 PM |
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My one character that actually uses 'fuck' (technically I have two, though my monk/rogue would used it she hasn't to my recollection, and I don't count the drow word 'vith' so my drow are out) does so sporadically. He's actually more likely to say something like 'hells' or 'gods-be-damned' or somesuch thing, but if something freaks his shit (which takes a lot to do, see GIANT DEATH SHADOW for more information), he's going to use it, oh yes. I actually pause before using swear words anyways, so I think that's a good thing as I consider if it's actually appropriate. I think that's a good thing to do before you go off swearing like your character has Tourette Syndrome (new character concept there).
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Daimondheart
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 20:17 PM |
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In an attempt to bring some focus back to my question, is there a list of proper Realms curses out there?
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Yossarin
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 20:23 PM |
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There are no proper Realms curses, only what a handful of people want you to believe are proper Realms curses. Since the vernacular used is English, the gambit of curses are those we know in English, and everything else is verbal gravy.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 20:39 PM |
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Quoting myself from the EfU forums, but I may have posted it here, too. To clarify: all the comments and explanations after the first paragraph are from the original sources (So Saith Ed collections, mostly) and not mine. I cannot guarantee your eyes will not bleed after reading, but you asked for it. I prefer to use terms that are immediately understandable to the modern player, myself. Quote: There's plenty of this stuff in the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, too. I compiled a post from Ed's Candlekeep replies and some other sources, a few years back. None of it is original material, I just copy-pasted it together. I think I already posted it here, but here it is again:
Lathanderite curses: Realms exclamations appear alphabetically, followed in parentheses (with asterisks to lessen the obscenity impact) by the real-world equivalent: "Beard!" (contraction of "[by the] Beard of Omthas!") [Omthas was an early prophet of Lathander, last heard from over six centuries ago] "Bitterblood!" (contraction of "By the blood of Alathan!") "By the Beard of Omthas!" ("Holy crap!" or: "Jesus!" [profane amazement]) "By the blood of Alathan!" ("Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!" or: "Bloody hell!" or "Jesus fucking Christ!" [profane shock or disgust]) [Alathan was a high priest of a Lathanderite temple who was martyred four centuries back for preaching the faith of Lathander by the local Tethyrian duke -- who hated and feared change, and didn't want any commoners getting uppoty ideas about starting ANYTHING new] "Darkrose!" ("Blast!" or: "Fuck!") "Dawnfire!" ("Shit!") "Dusking!" ("Damnation!") "Redblood!" ("Bloody hell!" or "Damn!" [upset Lathanderites have been heard to say things like "They even stole the redblooding candles!" so "redblooding" is the form that lets this word be used directly in place of the real-world "bloody" or "fucking"] "Star of the Morning!" ("My word!" [usable even when speaking to superiors in the church 'polite oath' that denotes surprise or dismay]) "Starfall!" ("Damn!" or "Blast!" [ancient oath, now considered almost poetic or flowery]) "Zustrin!" ("Bloody marvellous!" or "Fucking wonderful!" [used only when pleased, but so shocked or surprised as to burst out into profanity; considered poor form by clergy of Lathander]
Banite curses:
Here are some naughty words apt to be uttered by worshippers of Bane today. Where the curse seems an invented word and no 'name origin' is given, it derives from an ancient, ill-remembered 'temple tongue' or cant used by the very early cult of Bane, to keep secret the nature of converse between priests. "Aumarrath!" (contraction of "In memory of Aumarrath!" [Aumarrath the Tyrant-King was an early prophet of Bane, and this oath is polite enough to be used to superior clergy, denoting holy awe or satisfaction, somewhat akin to the real world: "Blood of the Virgin!" or "Name of the God!"]) "Blackfire!" ("Blood of the God!" [used in awe, admiration, or profane amazement, but never when angry or disgusted; is much less formal than "Aumarrath!"]) "Clathenar!" ("Holy crap!" or: "Jesus!" [Clathenar was an unintentional martyr of Bane whose long-ago holy service was one long sequence of disastrous screwups, so this oath is always used like a groan of dismay or spat out in despairing anger, when something has gone seriously wrong]; pronounced 'CLATH-en-ar') "Embarranar!" (a gloating thanks to Bane for something that's gone well, or a victory, or unlooked-for aid or good fortune, roughly equivalent to a delighted: "Son of a BITCH!" or "Don't that take all!"; pronounced 'Em-bar-RAN-ar') "Hand of Hate!" ([contraction of the rarely-heard "Feel the Hand of Hate!"] an expression only snarled at foes or victims being slain; rough equivalent of a real-world: "DIE, motherfucker!") "Holy Fist!" ("Jesus Christ!") "Krisk!" ("Shit!") "Lurruk!" ("Bloody hell!" or "Damn!"; pronounced 'LUR-uh-kh') "Sark!" ("Blast!" or: "Fuck!") "Talar!" ("Well, damn!" [a mild expression of surprise or dismay]) "Tondrabbar!" ("To the God!" [a war-cry or exulting expression uttered when an offering is touched aflame or broken, a foe is struck, or an attack is launched (i.e. it would be the first shout of a surprise attack); pronounced 'Tawn-DRAB-bar') "Whiteblood!" ("Bloody hell!" or "Jesus fucking Christ!" [profane shock or disgust]) This is of course the very sort of detail dropped because of the original TSR Code of Ethics AND the desire to simplify speech (doing away with dialects/accents, and so on) to make the game more accessible when it first appeared. If your players don't feel comfortable using any of these expressions, or they seem silly when uttered, don't use them. Bane will understand.
Red Knight /Tempus curses:
Obscenities uttered by faithful of the Red Knight when personally upset include these: "Alavaerthus!" (equivalent of "God-damn-it!" or "Jesus fucking Christ!" [this word, pronounced "Alah-VAER-thus," was the name of a member of the Fellowship who had a large hand in founding the church of Red Knight, but went mad in a battle and sent his forces to their dooms through a series of stupid or reckless commands; "playing Alavaerthus" is an informal Fellowship expression meaning to 'totally screw up') "Blood of the Lady!" (equivalent of "Oh my [insert strongest personal obscenities here] God!" [used as a stronger replacement for "Alavaerthus!") "Checkmate!" (formal, usable-in-polite-company equivalent of "Damn!" or "Shit!" or "Blast!" [invoking the name of the Lady's blade]) "Keltor!" (equivalent of "Damn!" and pronounced as "KEL-tor" [spat out swiftly]) "Teskyre!" (equivalent of "Shit!" and pronounced as "Tess-kEYE-ur") "Witless!" (equivalent of "Fuck!" [the strongest personal oath of a faithful of the Red Knight alludes to stupidity in strategy or tactics])
Now, a few 'polite oaths,' that can be used in front of priests, or by one priest to another, without any rebuke or sin at all: "Blood of the god!" [also uttered as: "Blood of Tempus!"] "Hooves!" [a reference to the mounts Tempus rides or stands on, Deiros and Veiros, and therefore to the god at work] "Steel!" [short for "Thirsty steel!" (this longer form is now very rarely heard), and expresses an eager desire to take part in battle] "Sword and Stars!" [a saying derived from the belief that stars flash to mark the god's approval when a favored attack is made or a champion draws his or her sword for purposes of battle] "Warhorn!" [short for "Warhorn forlorn!" (a line from a temple hymn about aid arriving too late to save the lives of heroes dying heroically in a 'last stand' because they upheld their duty rather than departing and so saving their lives), and expresses regret at a battle defeat or at poor tactics that resulted in losses because allies or sword-comrades came too late, or went in the wrong direction, or chose opponents or terrain poorly] "Zelzing!" [a word from an old, now-lost battle song of Tempus, that poetically described the sound of ringing swords in battle; this is now used triumphantly to mark a blow struck, or battle joined, or a foe struck down] And now, the "hard swearing" indulged in by believers in Tempus who have lost their tempers and let lapse all guard over their tongues. As usual, I've provided modern real-world equivalents in parentheses. Almost all of these words derive from ancient temple cant of the Wargod, now forgotten except for these oaths and a few sacred phrases used in altar prayers. "Arntarmar!" ("Jesus Christ!"; pronounced "Arn-TAR-mar!" [Arntarmar was a long-ago mortal war-hero who worked wondrous victories in the name of Tempus, and died willingly on a battlefield to allow wounded and children to escape while he singlehandedly held off a vastly more numerous foe in a narrow gorge]) "Caztul!" ("Fuck!" [profane shock or disgust] and pronounced "CAZZ-tuhl") "Gelkor!" ("Shit!"; pronounced with a hard 'g': "GEL-kore!") "Harcrimmitor!" (akin to shouting: "DIE, motherfucker!" and pronounced: "Har-CRIM-ih-tor") "Kelstyn!" ("Blast!"; pronounced: "KEL-stinn!") "Malagard!" ("Well, damn!" [mild surprise or dismay]) "Ralimralar!" (a delighted: "Son of a BITCH!" and pronounced: "RAL-im-RAL-ar!") "Sakros!" ("Holy crap!" [astonishment, not necessarily bad] and pronounced "SACK-roe-sss") "Talandor!" ("Bloody hell!"; pronounced: "Tel-an-DOR!")
General: To tide you over on the swearing, here are just a few key words, with various regional variants given (I'll leave the more colourful genitalia descriptors for the full piece): (non-deity-specific) damn! = hrast, hrammar (hur-RAST, hur-RAM-uh) ["hrammar" is southern] shit! = naeth, naed, orbal (NAY-thh, NAYdd, ORR-ball) ["orbal" is southern] fuck! = tluin (tuh-LOOO-in) fuck you/fuck off = sabruin (sah-BROO-in) Misc: Haularake, stlarn
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 20:58 PM |
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So where's the line in the sand on Amia? Are there some words you (meaning The DM Team) simply don't want to see? I can think of a few racial slures that barely, if at all makes sense in the setting, but how about the ever famous C-words, for example?
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Characters: Currently trying my best to stick to Beridoc Brushgale
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Daimondheart
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 21:42 PM |
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Thanks IronAngel. The polite and general curse words should prove rather helpful.
Uh... well, Dakotaen, apparently the word isn't that famous as I have no idea what you're referring to. >.>' And I think I'll keep it that way!
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013, 22:07 PM |
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Dakotaen wrote: So where's the line in the sand on Amia? Are there some words you (meaning The DM Team) simply don't want to see? I can think of a few racial slures that barely, if at all makes sense in the setting, but how about the ever famous C-words, for example? I don't think there is (providing you are not saying them OOC), but a DM might tell you better. Daimondheart wrote: Thanks IronAngel. The polite and general curse words should prove rather helpful.
Uh... well, Dakotaen, apparently the word isn't that famous as I have no idea what you're referring to. >.>' And I think I'll keep it that way! You know it :p It's the word all women hate. Four letters, starts with cu**. Personally I don't use it (IG) but I don't see why there's such a huge deal about it, but I respect some people get up-in-arms about it.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Thu, Feb 21 2013, 2:53 AM |
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The word is cunt, and no, it isn't off-limits, but be warned: if overused, poorly used, or used in an OOC hurtful fashion, it may rain hot water.
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Machiavelli's Dead
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Posted: Thu, Feb 21 2013, 23:38 PM |
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he Nine Parts of Speech and the F-word Quote: by Carrie Bailey
Warning: while in the pursuit of education, we sometimes fall short of good taste as in the case of this post wherein one expletive has been explored in its various manifestations within the context of English language usage.
Indeed, some people weren’t paying attention during grammar school and missed their opportunity to learn the nine parts of speech. Many of them were busy hurling expletives at their instructors or paying attention to what the members of the opposite sex were occupied doing instead. In order to remedy these gaps, these vast chasms in their educational attainment, one of the Peevish Penman editors has put together a lesson plan catering to their diverse interests.
Also, in anticipation of National Punctuation Day, tomorrow September 24, we will pay homage to the nine parts of speech that punctuation clarifies. On a related note, we will also be proving definitively that one word in the English dictionary can in fact be used to fill each and every one of the nine parts of speech and that word is fuck.
NOUNS:
A noun is a word used to name something: a person/animal, a place, a thing, or an idea. For example: What a fucker. The word fucker is the noun. There are many different types of nouns. Nouns can be singular or plural.
for fuck’s sake vs. stupid fucks
In this example, when we ask the question for whose sake the answer is for fuck, which denotes a single individual rather than many as in many stupid fucks. Nouns can be common or proper.
What a fuck vs. He is the Fuck of all fucks
Proper nouns are capitalized as you can observe. Nouns can also be concrete or abstract. A dumb fuck would an example of a concrete noun, because the noun in question is a tangible person with a physical existence whereas the word fuck in the question who the fuck does not relate to any material object of a known size shape or quantity and is therefore abstract as an idea like justice or perspicacity.
Nouns can also be gerunds, which generally end in “ing.” Please note that this applies only when the word fills the role of a noun and not “ing” verbs, which are often preceded by the word am. In this example the word fucking functions clearly as a noun: Fucking is fucking fine. And here it does NOT: He/she is fucking.
PRONOUNS:
Another important part of speech is the pronoun. They are words that replace nouns and eliminate the need for repetition. The most common way to employ the word fuck as a pronoun is by determining which noun is being replaced and adding the word that in front of fuck.
In the sentence John went to the bakery and bought a loaf of bread, we simply have to replace John with a word. He went to the bakery… is the most common choice of pronoun, but as our language shifts to reflect the changing times it is becoming increasingly more common to see the word he passed over in favor of the following example:
That fuck went to the bakery and bought a loaf of bread.
In this situation the pronoun is a personal pronoun that replaces the subject of the sentence. Personal pronouns may be subjects, objects, or possessives. It is also a demonstrative pronoun because it indicates a noun.
Q: Which fuck?
A: That fuck.
Reflexive pronouns name a receiver of an action who is identical to the doer of the action. One example of a sentence without the use of a pronoun would be Jennifer walked her dog all by Jennifer’s self today. This repetition is cumbersome and problematic, but easily solved with a reflexive pronoun. Indeed it's more effectively expressed by substituting Jennifer’s self with a reflexive pronoun such as herself or by saying:
Jennifer walked her dog all by her own fucking self today.
Indefinite Pronouns refer to non-specific persons and things as in: Bruce and Sonali kissed one a-fucking nother.
Interrogative pronouns introduce questions such as: Who the fuck? Which fuck? What fucker? How the fuck? Whose fucking? To whom the fuck?
It can, of course, be argued that these examples of interrogative pronouns do not employ the word fuck in a distinct and necessary manner; however the fact that each statement can and does regularly stand alone as a question proves its independence from other parts of speech. Each forms a complete question requires no other words to make sense and solicit a sensical response. Even more, in today’s language use, it is common to forgo the formal distinctions between these previous examples for an all encompassing:
Fuuuuuuuck?!
Often used when someone wants the answer to the question, but knows they’re not going to get it. In this case it is most appropriate to draw out the “u” sound for emphasis that it is not an interjection, another important but distinct part of speech.
Relative pronouns introduce dependent clauses and refers to a person or thing already mentioned in the sentence (i.e. the antecedent). e.g whoever the fuck, whomever the fuck, which fucking, that fuck.... The concept can be further applied for this sort of pronoun.
ADJECTIVES:
An adjective modifies (describes) a noun or pronoun.
What a fucking fuck.
They can form comparisons, normally preceded by more or be used to form superlatives, commonly expressed with the word most as in:
That was more fucked up than anything I’ve ever seen.
That was the most fucked up thing I have ever seen.
VERBS:
Verbs generally express action or a state of being. There are several classifications for verbs- action verbs,/linking verbs, main verbs/auxiliary verbs, transitive/intransitive and phrasal verbs. Probably the word fuck began as a verb; although, the etymology of the word has been debated and somewhat unclear as writers, editors, and publishers neglected using the word prior to the advent of the internet.
Main verbs stand alone as in: Fuck him/her.
The verb tense in the previous sentence is called imperative and expresses a command. Auxiliary verbs, also called helping verbs, serve as support to the main verb.
My ex-boyfriend just fucking draws all day.
Verbs can be transitive or intransitive. Transitive Verbs require a direct object in order to make sense to the listener or reader: Hassan fucks up. Means nothing without an object such as everything: Hassan fucks up everything.
Intransitive Verbs do not need direct objects to make them meaningful. For example: Sarah fucks. In this case we do not need any clarification as to what Sarah fucks in order to ascertain that she is not chaste.
ADVERBS:
An adverb is a word that modifies an action verb, an adjective or another adverb.
He/she is fucking fucked.
In this case fucked is the noun, which fucking modifies.
Relative adverbs introduce questions and dependent adverbial clauses. They answer the questions fuck when? and fuck where?
Fuck when I had to go get my car fixed…
Again it is important to distinguish between the usage in the previous sentence and when it is used as an interjection. The way we can tell that fuck is not being used as an interjection depends on a combination of the speed at which the person uses the word and punctuation. The same sentence punctuated differently would transform fuck into an interjection: Fuck! When I had to go get my car fixed… This sentence reads differently and is pronounced differently, because the word fuck functions differently.
CONJUNCTIONS:
There are seven coordinating conjunctions: For fucking, And fucking, nor fucking, but fucking, or fucking, yet fucking, so fucking.
Keisha eats ham sandwiches but fucking Mike prefers tuna.
Without the words but fucking, the sentences would be separated as: Keisha eats ham sandwiches. Mike prefers tuna.
In this case fucking could precede Mike as an adjective that describes him, but it does not have to do so. Always consider the writer or speaker’s intent. If fucking Mike is not something the speaker would normally use in their expressions but but fucking is a common feature, the word fuck has most certainly been employed by the person to join two sentences and therefore formed and integral part of a conjunction.
Correlative conjunctions also join ideas, but they work in pairs. They are: Both fucking…and fucking, neither…fucking nor, fucking whether…or, either fucking…or, not fucking only…but fucking also.
PREPOSITIONS:
Prepositions are words that, like conjunctions, connect a noun or pronoun to another word in a sentence. The easiest way to determine whether or not a word is a preposition is with the phrase:
Anywhere a mouse can go…
But more often we compile lists to gain a clearer view of what words function together as prepositions. Some common prepositions: About, Before, Down, Into, Through, Above, Behind, During, Like, To, Across, Below, Except, Of, Toward, After, Beneath, For, Off, Under, Among, Beside, From, On, Up, Around, Between, In, Over, With, At, By, Instead of, Since, Without, and Fuck.
So, where’s the mouse?
Fuck if I know.
ARTICLES:
Articles are the, a, an, and fuck.
As you can see the article the is virtually interchangeable with the word fuck:
The face sees its reflection in the mirror.
Fuck face sees its reflection in the mirror.
INTERJECTIONS:
Interjections are words used to express emotional states. They can usually be found in narrative writing, interviews, and in spoken English. They can stand alone. As we’ve previously alluded that would be:
Fucking awesome!
Here's a poem to help you remember them all: The Nine Parts Fucks of Speech
Three little words fucks you often see, Are articles- a, an, and the.
A noun's the name of anything As school, garden, hoop fuck, or swing.
An Fucking adjectives tell the kind of noun- Great, small, pretty, white, or brown.
Instead of nouns the pronouns stand- Her head, his face, your arm fuck, my hand.
Verbs tell of something to be done, To read To fuck, sing, jump, or run.
How things are done fuck the adverbs tell, As slowly, quickly, ill, fucked up, or well.
Conjunctions join words together, As in men and fucking women, wind or fucking weather.
The prepositions stand before A noun, as at or through the the fucking door.
The interjection shows fucking shows surprise, As ah FUCK! How fucking pretty- Oh FUCK! how wise.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 3:08 AM |
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Damn, did I totally shut this thread down with that word?
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 3:11 AM |
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Fuck no! The cunts just be plotting on how to attack ye!
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Yossarin
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 3:13 AM |
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That's a relief. For a minute there I almost believed that some kind of unseen, metaphysical "line", for lack of a better term, existed, and that I might have crossed over it!
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 3:16 AM |
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Don't toe the water jump on in the water is fine.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Hrothmus
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 3:35 AM |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvPbxZmZxZ8Whew, I had to check all the posts to make sure I was the first one posting this... It's such a useful word! Say it loudly say it proudly!
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 7:31 AM |
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<3
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Machiavelli's Dead
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Posted: Fri, Mar 08 2013, 15:53 PM |
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"Listen to your filthy mouth ya fuckin' whore!" - serial mom.
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Sev
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Posted: Sun, Mar 10 2013, 11:25 AM |
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I like the swears that a part of the voicesets. My favorite is the one from the voiceset I most commonly use, the Maiden voiceset - "Son of She-wolf!" The fact that she says it with the same emphasis as if saying "Sonovabitch" helps too. 
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Xaviera
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Posted: Sun, Mar 10 2013, 15:01 PM |
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Some would argue that the word 'cunt' as a reference to the female genitalia is perfectly acceptable, and more power to them. As a reference to another person, however - and particularly to a woman - it's seen by others as highly misogynistic in a way that's roughly equivalent to the way the n-word is racist. Of course, as with many things in life, not everybody agrees.
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Guardian
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Posted: Sun, Mar 10 2013, 15:08 PM |
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I personally find cunt much more aggressive than fuck.
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