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san
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I have made Phearnun KING of the forum lol, he can organise the threads etc.. 
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Yossarin
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 18:41 PM |
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That's amusing. You have a forum and the faction collapses. After months of inactivity, the forum is removed. Now you claim the removal of the forum is what killed you, but you were already dead.
There's no problem with you having your own forum out there in the boondocks. Just consider this a friendly note that you might be ignoring some other significant factors I see.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 18:50 PM |
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Yossarin wrote: That's amusing. You have a forum and the faction collapses. After months of inactivity, the forum is removed. Now you claim the removal of the forum is what killed you, but you were already dead.
There's no problem with you having your own forum out there in the boondocks. Just consider this a friendly note that you might be ignoring some other significant factors I see. I have no idea where this came from. You might want to re-read what was said and by whom. I strongly disapprove of your attitude towards us organizing our own efforts again. We are addressing the issue of sharing all the lore and info we have accumulated and archived with the new players. Let us work.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:07 PM |
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What I disapprove of is where you choose to lay the blame. I think that in doing so, you do yourself no favors.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:12 PM |
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Yossarin wrote: What I disapprove of is where you choose to lay the blame. I think that in doing so, you do yourself no favors. Where have we implied anything about anyone's blame? If you re-read the thread you will find no accusations directed at you. I really do not see where this is coming from. You removed our forum access because we became inactive as per your rules for subforums. We were dissatisfied with losing our archives so we saved them and made plans to find a new place to store them at from the start, as you can check from some backups of our old forums. As far as I see the most blaming comment in this thread is me blaming my addiction of EVE Online. If you absolutely need to get offended by something, try to do it somewhere else. I really dislike this kind of sneaky accusations.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:17 PM |
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I am looking right at it on the first page. You should not take such offense when someone is pointing out that you are making an incorrect assumption regarding cause and effect. There is nothing personal here and I am not even offended.
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san
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:40 PM |
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Oh my lordy, not having been in the EO when it 'collapsed' i simply thought i was doing a good thing trying to get it 'up' again... Have i done something wrong?
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Yossarin
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:47 PM |
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Not really. Just come to an incorrect and disingenuous conclusion.
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san
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 21:02 PM |
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... what conclusion that's incorrect have i come to.. i'm at a loss here.. i created the forum because it was suggested we needed one.. surely im not getting thought of any less for trying to help am I? I really truthfully cant understand. If we can have a forum.. just say? personally i find it a bit silly we have to have an external one, but like i said, im new to this faction and have NO IDEA what has gone before. Dissapointed... 
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 21:02 PM |
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I only said that Amia's a dull place, which I've said many times during the last 3-4 years.
Anyway, improvement in sight. Cool.
Oh and Yoss, I don't think we ever claimed losing the forum was an offence towards us or anything, I did clearly mention that I was rather amazed you didn't shut it down months earlier.
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Yossarin
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 22:18 PM |
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What you "really need" is precisely what you had. Ergo, by your logic we killed you when we took away, again, the one thing you really need. My point is that dropping that on us rather than considering more accurate explanations is just going to lead you to the same ruts when I would rather see you flourish.
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Halecta
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 22:42 PM |
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Alot of times with factions you need to look at what thier purpose is, how can they achieve the purpose, and what caused the faction to fail in the first place. Also it is important to rememeber not only to make it fun for yourself, but to make it fun for other people to interact with you as well.
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san
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 23:17 PM |
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Right im staying out of this as i know mothing about what is being discussed.. so i'll wait for it all to die down.. jeesh, try to help....
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 23:21 PM |
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Which is bizarre, since you are the one who said it.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 1:02 AM |
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I don't think anyone really cares about our forum being taken away. The faction was dead at the time, so it did not have much impact. Now they are trying to rebuild, it makes it easier to have information were we can post in private. I'm pretty sure that is the meaning behind the whole story.
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san
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 1:37 AM |
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Yossarin wrote: Which is bizarre, since you are the one who said it. I'm sorry but i've just read all my posts and the only thing i seem to have said, is constructive things to get things going.. how can you possibly criticize me for being positive? Whatever went on before regarding forums i had no part of and knew nothing of. This has really left a sour taste in my mouth. How about a 'yeh great, good to see someone trying to get it moving again, if you need any help, just drop me a line, well done that man'. Now 'that' is people management and FUNgineering... right now im not feeling the FUN bit. Yours... Confused
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 1:55 AM |
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san wrote: What we really need is a forum to post kelly stuff in, im assuming there isnt a faction forum like the non operational dawnguard? Can we have theirs?  The meeting last night went well for most i think. There was much talk about changes, which is good for the future of the faction. The other good point was most seem to share a portion of a timezone, albeit Eurozone which emans most really coolish stuff might happen too late into the early hours for us, but hey ho. For example, it would be a good idea to make a post regarding a roster and contact details (forum accts for pms and such like), not only for players in game now and future new players or those interested in the faith. In addition, do we actually know every kelemvorite on the server, if we had a place where anyone could post that they visit the cathederal, it would let us know who we have. I am willing to administer the forum if required. The forum shoud include each memebrs responsibility, training responibilites etc etc.. We really do need a forum if we're going to get this ball rolling again. I assume that the request for a forum has been raised with DM Management already? what was the outcome? Apologies for spamming ideas, i just dont wanto lose the momentum we seem to have gained lately. My guess is Yossi is referring to this, as it's the only spot I could find where you mention the forums and the lack of them being tied to whether you'll get the ball rolling again or not. Hope that helps you understand! Or I could just be wrong. >.> Tryin' to help. _________________ Login: The Copper Queen
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 3:20 AM |
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Correct. The first sentence implies not only that a forum will solve all of your problems, but also implies that we killed the faction by removing it in the first place. Since, as you say, it is the only thing you really need.
I disagree with both of those sentiments and want to encourage you to build the faction on better and healthier conclusions. There is no need for passive aggressive wound licking against imaginary bullying. Just take my advice as a sign that I care.
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san
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 6:56 AM |
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Location: UK
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Right,
1. We do actually need a forum, it helps.
2. If i thought that i implied a forum would solve all of our problems you don't really see where i'm coming from, and have got the 'wrong end of the stick'. You mentioned i said it's the 'only' thing we need, what i said was, 'what we really need', which come on.. is true. Along with RP input of course, which i have been working my damnedest to do. If you saw another message in there, you imagined it or it was not intended. When i mention that i assumed that a forum request had been made, i said this simply because i wasn't aware there used to be one. (see below - wrongful assumptions)
3. You have made several assumptions here which are wrong on your part which may have led to your post; That i even knew there used to be a forum (which i did not), That i had a Kellemvorite PC and was involved with them in whatever downfall/argument/whatever that took place (which i did not).
I take note that you've only posted here because you care, which i appreciate from yourself and any DM, i've always found you fair Yoss, which is why its a bit upsetting when I am taken out of context when all I'm trying to do is help. Seriously,, would we be even having this discussion and the meeting IG Sunday if i hadn't stirred the pot?
If i have appeared to winge about things that happened in the past that i had no knowledge about, i'm sorry, you've read between the lines and come up short..
And there's the truth - I hate this when you can't talk face to face with folks, communicating by text is so impersonal and things can flare up quickly.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 9:14 AM |
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Though I think here it is faking ignorance a tad, Yoss. It is rather clear that a faction forum helps a lot to keep things organized, push forward in game events and promote roleplay. There is a reason every faction requests one, once they meet the requirements. That the EO no longer has one is mainly it's own doing, but the removal of the forum did not help the faction to flourish, it made it worse. I say mainly as the faction is the one who lacked the activity for it, and the DMs removed it because of it. I do not think anyone with forum access back then can say it was an unfair decision of the staff, but it was not the step that would help any possible recovery of activity. The threat of removal was, the actual removal was not.
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san
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 10:52 AM |
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Actually phearnun I wasn't feigning it I really didn't know there was once a forum. My Kelly pc is quite recent.
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Pony
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 10:56 AM |
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Oh, I meant Yossarin, not you. I am well aware you did not have a kelly character back when we had a forum, and hence did not see the stuff on it concerning it's removal. Not that this really has anything to do with getting the faction back on track, as this little discussion really has no bearing on it. If the group gets active again, we can see if we want to request it once more. Not sure that is smart though, as with this external forum it is much nicer to organize everything. 
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 12:36 PM |
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Maybe it's not exactly my place to be writing up a response to all this, as I think it should be progressing beyond this little exchange in the conversation. As one of the leaders of the Dawnguard/a person in charge of running forums, I would still advise caution. I've said this before to a few people that struggled to get faction forums: A Faction's success doesn't depend on the forums. And I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Now, before emotions, rise, I'm going to toss a suggestion as well! I believe from my own experience that a faction forum can actually become a negative tool to a group- Fledgling or developed, if improperly used. Something that Vitross and I found far more effective were PM's. Many times, we'd write a topic asking for responses and we would receive very little input from members. A forum topic doesn't tend to have the flare that a PM does, or the personal touch that usually invites player response. At the very least, people respond with "//Sorry, can't make it to this" when prompted with a personal PM. With a PM, you're having more of a personal discussion with that individual, and they're far more likely to respond than simply passively watch the topic go on. Yes, this method -does- hinge around a strong, active leader who can send all these PM's out to the members and organize all the responses- But hey, if you're starting the faction again, why not assume that position through letters so that the people gathered each consider you a leader of sorts? That can't be a bad thing. I understand that sometimes a faction forum is convenient. Just don't underestimate the power of a mass-PM, and don't fall into a trap believing that the forums are key to success. Initiative, leadership, and the ability to adapt to actively lead a diverse group of people are what makes a faction a success. (Well, that and fun, of course. ) Coupled with the already existing Khem forums and well-composed PM's- Hell, I'm excited to see what could become of the Eternal Order. AND with the increasing roleplay going on Djedet? Hooah.
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Pony
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 12:39 PM |
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San just pointed out he thinks we need a forum to get the ball rolling again, and as a new guy to the group did not know the history of what happened to the old one. He is right that a forum would help, so he took the initiative to create one. I hardly think there is anything too heated about this discussion, but then again I really do not see the point of this chibber chabber. There is an external forum now, and voila, we will continue from there.
My take: Yoss took one statement of a new guy and assumed it was the stance of the old guys whining about forum removal, and ignoring their own lack of activity when we had a forum. San was confused as he could not understand what Yoss meant, as he had no idea as a new guy of what he could have meant. Silv did not understand where the comment came from, as San did not say what Yoss thought he said. And voila, we got two pages filled with this sillyness. >.>
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 12:47 PM |
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The EO is a faction that heavily relies upon written records, archives, rules and reports. Therefore we need and have a forum. End of story.
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Mr. Hackums
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 12:50 PM |
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Ah, good good, then. I'll look forward to seeing ya'll active again.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 13:02 PM |
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Halecta wrote: Alot of times with factions you need to look at what thier purpose is, how can they achieve the purpose, and what caused the faction to fail in the first place. Also it is important to rememeber not only to make it fun for yourself, but to make it fun for other people to interact with you as well. I like carebears. Do you like carebears? So I read something about a meeting. Did you folks meet up in EO circles and got all grim together again? Is there any sense in installing my NWN and try to come there as well? _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 13:03 PM |
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Herra Tutteri wrote: Halecta wrote: Alot of times with factions you need to look at what thier purpose is, how can they achieve the purpose, and what caused the faction to fail in the first place. Also it is important to rememeber not only to make it fun for yourself, but to make it fun for other people to interact with you as well. I like carebears. Do you like carebears? So I read something about a meeting. Did you folks meet up in EO circles and got all grim together again? Is there any sense in installing my NWN and try to come there as well? Yes, was a meeting and the info about it is on the new forum. Yep, we got together and there was a patrol, and we killed someone defiling a grave in Benwick. Yes, reason for you to install nwn and come back. Naturally best reason is that I am in the faction again.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 14:12 PM |
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Also we killed a necromancer and won in PvP, which was awesome.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 14:13 PM |
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Wouldn't ever refer to the person you killed as being a Necromancer.
_________________ Khaldun Menetnashte KhalfaniVictor WilkinsonSilent2001 wrote: Jimbono1 is my favourite. ^totally not a lie or anything.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 14:15 PM |
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We still attacked people and kicked some serious ass, which is all what RP and EO together is about.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 14:31 PM |
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: We still attacked people and kicked some serious ass, which is all what RP and EO together is about. *Like* Edit - Seriously. Can't we get a like button on this forum?
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 16:29 PM |
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: We still attacked people and kicked some serious ass, which is all what RP and EO together is about. Personally id like to think that we are about a little more than that.. 
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 16:36 PM |
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The Eternal Order is the military sect of the Church of Kelemvor. So, if you don't want conflict RP, then the EO isn't for you. Try just making a standard Doomguide/Priest of Kelemvor.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 17:17 PM |
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Yep. They are not devoted to pvp, but they are the military part of the faith. So if there is a conflict that involves the kelemvorites, its them that need to do their part, while the priests can molest the choir boys. But no, the conflict rp is not the only thing that they are for.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 20:03 PM |
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san wrote: Uncle-Opustus wrote: We still attacked people and kicked some serious ass, which is all what RP and EO together is about. Personally id like to think that we are about a little more than that.. You can think whatever you want, my boy, but that won't change the facts. _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 22:30 PM |
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I have no problem with pvp,,, as long as it's appropriate. What I meant is that I thought the order was a little more than just rp AND pvp. Which I'm sure it isn't. If it is then perhaps I do need to rethink my pc and her development.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 22:49 PM |
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Yes! Powerbuild and wreck havoc - for we only play for PVP, sodomising children and only that!
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 22:52 PM |
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The EO is and always has been heavily reliant on conflict RP. We do other stuff too, but our main purpose is to capture/kill heretics. Other than the Church RP there isn't a whole lot else to it, although that is what it has been, not what it will be in the future. The faction is also very strict, and if you start doing things that your post does not permit, you will be punished.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 8:00 AM |
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Sure we could just deploy our clerics to hold all these various masses and whatnot, but those haven't really been so popular. It's dull to preach all by yourself, you know.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 9:23 AM |
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Herra Tutteri wrote: Sure we could just deploy our clerics to hold all these various masses and whatnot, but those haven't really been so popular. It's dull to preach all by yourself, you know. Unless your a schizophrenic 
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 13:39 PM |
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san wrote: Herra Tutteri wrote: Sure we could just deploy our clerics to hold all these various masses and whatnot, but those haven't really been so popular. It's dull to preach all by yourself, you know. Unless your a schizophrenic If you're a schizo, everything's exciting! _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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Posted: Fri, Dec 02 2011, 15:06 PM |
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jimbono1 wrote: The EO is and always has been heavily reliant on conflict RP. We do other stuff too, but our main purpose is to capture/kill heretics. Other than the Church RP there isn't a whole lot else to it, although that is what it has been, not what it will be in the future. The faction is also very strict, and if you start doing things that your post does not permit, you will be punished. Phearnun and Jim are correct here, san. I've known you are relatively new to the faction...not really new, per se, but the faction just hasn't done much of anything since you were sworn in...but the EO has a history of engaging in direct PvP encounters on the server. This is not a bad thing, and under most circumstances I think they did everything they could to provide as much RP surrounding the actual PvP as they could without hamstringing themselves when it came to being effective at what they do. The EO, along with the Banite faction of yore and what might have been drow once upon a time are the elements of the setting that infuriated Amia's own "tea party" community. No, I do not mean our ultraconservative players, but the players who preferred to sit around and have tea parties and who turned into pools of impotent rage and passive aggressive whining at the slightest sign of conflict. I've talked about the EO quite a few times and why I like them. Mostly because they are not formally canon to my knowledge and have grown into a state of originality. This causes me to think about them in unique and creative ways, and how they interact with the entire Kelemvorite faith in general. I suspect that the Kelemvorite faith monitors its followers, and those who display a great deal of personal aggression are sent in the direction of the Eternal Order. Oh, of course, when the EO hears about this they don't receive a note from the church saying, "This guy goes around really pissed off all the time - you take him!" No, they get something proclaiming the fellow's pure (self-)righteousness and a litany of accolades. The main church, in my mind, has a huge investment in "good PR" at the moment, considering the entire faith is only 20-something years old and they have a ton of work to do in order to get the global population as familiar with the reality of death as Kelemvor wants. Ergo, the church dumps their anger management cases into the Eternal Order, the ones they can't pacify on the proselytizing front, because they know they'll learn discipline in the EO (and have a place to put their natural desire for conflict to use). Therefore, not only does the Eternal Order have a highly disciplined set of strictures and oaths and duties and an overall martial mindset that puts them into a constant state of war with their enemies, it also has its share of people who are naturally inclined towards pursuing the church's ills with aggravating tenacity. So, yeah. They have every IC reason for engaging in PvP. Our rules just ask them to make their IC reasons for PvP painfully clear to all parties involved every time they get into a PvP situation. This is not hard to do, imo, and I think your faction would be served well by thinking ahead of time about a nice, failsafe way to do that for the many times you will be asskicking necromancers and demoniacs.
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Kudark
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Posted: Fri, Dec 02 2011, 15:47 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2009
Location: The Dark Side of the Moon
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The EO is no better than the War Knights, in Crow's opinion, and they are one of the biggest jokes on the island...again, in Crow's opinion.
If you want to join a faction with little to no conflict, join the Grove. It's kind of hard to get in fights, when your arms are wrapped around a tree.
*ducks, because he knows someone will throw something*
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P Three
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Posted: Fri, Dec 02 2011, 15:53 PM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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Um. The Grove is one of the most PVP heavy factions I've seen in quite some time, Kudark.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Fri, Dec 02 2011, 17:03 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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P Three wrote: Um. The Grove is one of the most PVP heavy factions I've seen in quite some time, Kudark. That's true. They've been engaging in combat with members of almost every faction lately. They're the new EO! _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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jimbono1
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Posted: Fri, Dec 02 2011, 22:27 PM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007
Location: England
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I want to start a flame war right now, but i won't. I'm pretty sure anyone who knows me can guess what i'll say anyway.
_________________ Khaldun Menetnashte KhalfaniVictor WilkinsonSilent2001 wrote: Jimbono1 is my favourite. ^totally not a lie or anything.
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Gunz
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Posted: Sat, Dec 03 2011, 2:46 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Actually, the EO is canon, Yoss! But Gabe and crew made it something all their own, which is what made it cool. Unfortunately, I decided to try and partake in the fun when things were starting to die down (toward the end of Sharina's time as leader/life) so I only experienced a tad of the fun, even with an outsider, non-EO, but still Kellie, PC.
What the EO needs is someone who will inspire the faction back to life. I've been saying this for forever now. New inspired leadership is the only thing that will revive the faction. Sorry to say guys, because I don't dislike you as people, but the old players are hardly going to be the ones to do this. You need new blood. The old players have proven that they'll only come around if you do the heavy lifting for them. You need people that will do it -with- you.
As for the Grove, the Grove has always been fairly PvP heavy because of the location they protect. It comes with the territory. Never join a guarding faction if you can't handle PvP.
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jimbono1
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Posted: Sat, Dec 03 2011, 3:51 AM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007
Location: England
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What the EO needs is more Necromancers on the server to kill.
_________________ Khaldun Menetnashte KhalfaniVictor WilkinsonSilent2001 wrote: Jimbono1 is my favourite. ^totally not a lie or anything.
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Gunz
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Posted: Sat, Dec 03 2011, 4:29 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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There are plenty. You're just out of touch with Amia because you rarely play.
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