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Yossarin
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 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2011, 3:12 AM |
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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This post is for people who currently own these widgets.
If you believe that your character is capable of teaching the lore-appropriate use of these widgets to other characters, then please send me a "lesson plan" in my PM Box that briefly but adequately outlines the critical points in effectively teaching these abilities to other people.
I am taking the initiative and doing this because IG training is necessary for people to get these widgets and there seems to be a shortage of such people on at certain times or places. Some of your characters may be willing to teach others freely, so long as they are taught correctly. Some of you may be willing to teach others for a price (in gold or favors or sex...no, scratch that last one, it is against the rules.) Some of you may only want to teach good people and leave the bad dudes out in the cold, or conversely make sure your wicked partners know all the tricks and those goodie-goods stay ignorant.
None of those motivations really matter to me, as this is mostly (for the moment) an OOC testing of the water. We need to know who has the widget and who we think is capable of adequately teaching it to other people and when we have those names we may come up with an IC way to fix a possible problem. To be honest, I don't have a model in place, but I know where to start from, and this is it!
Obviously, don't post your lesson plan in this thread, please. Just send it in a PM.
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Scimiter
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 13:27 PM |
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Joined: 25 Apr 2009
Location: Canada
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Pity I've semi-retired Daniel. He's already taught even  _________________ Guys I play: Finng Meras Joshua Steel Daniel Makie Celub Elubmiire Tristan Len'ionel 
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beciv
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 15:58 PM |
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Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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Is the greater Shadowjump widget required to teach Shadowjump or can it be done with the lesser widget?
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Analog Kid
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 16:00 PM |
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Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: The Great White North Eh!!
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Best I know, you need to be a 'Master' Dancer, or lvl 10 SD. They are the same thing, fwiw 
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Beck: Hard working dwarf paladin.
Naela 'Widow': Wandering priestess.
Celinor Triellian: Paladin of Corellon.
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TheGoddessOfAmazing©
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 16:41 PM |
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Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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I will make my best attempt to find time to write something up this weekend. I don't play my master 'dancer much anymore, but I would if someone needed a teacher.
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Simeron
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 16:42 PM |
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Joined: 30 Aug 2011
Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell
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Krugan will eventually get to 10 SD but he needs a teacher. Once he has learned, he will be willing to teach.
Ways off yet for me.
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An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices till they can't get it wrong.
Dwarves are professionals at what we do.
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Analog Kid
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Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2011, 16:59 PM |
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Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: The Great White North Eh!!
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Simeron wrote: Krugan will eventually get to 10 SD but he needs a teacher. Once he has learned, he will be willing to teach.
Ways off yet for me. Come by the Academy when you're ready. There *cough* might be someone there that can help.
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I Am:
Derrin: 'Nothing to see here'
Beck: Hard working dwarf paladin.
Naela 'Widow': Wandering priestess.
Celinor Triellian: Paladin of Corellon.
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Galenson
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Posted: Mon, Oct 03 2011, 12:49 PM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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Some people for reasons that are their own, cannot approach the usual avenues regarding these techniques (ie subraces, alignments, timezones, deities, OOC grudges, flying pandas etc.) Will these widgets still be able to be obtained through DM observation and tuition opposed to DM observation and player tuition?
Or is the future aim of this plan to really push for player tuition?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Oct 03 2011, 19:02 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Um, weve never done DM tuition to begin with.
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Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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jamnik_pucek
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Posted: Mon, Oct 03 2011, 19:43 PM |
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Joined: 19 Apr 2011
Location: EST Time zone (GMT -5)
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Galenson wrote: Some people for reasons that are their own, cannot approach the usual avenues regarding these techniques (ie subraces, alignments, timezones, deities, OOC grudges, flying pandas etc.) Unless you actively try to kill academy members/faculty or in general act like a 6 year old, the SD school at least does not discriminate to the best of my knowledge, as their goal is to foster SD talents, nothing more or less (morality is left out on purpose). The one teacher that I had dealings with if you catch him can set up lessons for you, although it could prolly use one/more active people, sure. A gap that I intend to try and fill in with one of my chars in the future as an SD actually. Galenson wrote: Will these widgets still be able to be obtained through DM observation and tuition opposed to DM observation and player tuition? Tormak beat me to it, but as he said, on the SD side at least, the SJ widgets are given after player tuition, DM involvement is you requesting the widget after your training is complete and screenies are posted. I've seen or went through two such trainings personally by now. I'd assume that this is the reason for this call out in the first place.
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corypx
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Posted: Mon, Oct 03 2011, 19:53 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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or just learn stuff yourself and screw finding a teaching, at least in the case of 1k faces with shifter
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jamnik_pucek
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Posted: Mon, Oct 03 2011, 19:57 PM |
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Joined: 19 Apr 2011
Location: EST Time zone (GMT -5)
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SJ training requires tuition afaik, on the account that if you do it wrong, you can kill yourself in a variety of colorful, squishy ways. 1000 faces afaik is a bit less deadly if you do it wrong, but I'm not really a shifter person. In theory though, both could be self taught with the proper amount of theoretical preparation, though that's for the DMs to decide.
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Hello, hello? Or did you sell your soul?
Hello, hello? I thought you wanted to be somebody... Then be somebody!
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HellScourge
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Posted: Wed, Oct 05 2011, 5:32 AM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Location: GMT+1
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jamnik_pucek wrote: SJ training requires tuition afaik, on the account that if you do it wrong, you can kill yourself in a variety of colorful, squishy ways. Yes. Very much yes. I think there is a whole topic of the ways you can kill yourself if done wrong or off by a mere half meter. Hint: Appearing with your right side inside of a tree is not healthy. Hence why you should practice in flat empty places. _________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...] 
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Hrothmus
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Posted: Wed, Oct 05 2011, 14:08 PM |
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Joined: 08 Jan 2010
Location: Virginia
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There are several active/semi active SD teachers out there yes. You just have to hunt one down. Post in the academy forums and find which teacher can work in your timezone and get some RP Going.
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Scimiter
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Posted: Wed, Oct 05 2011, 21:04 PM |
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Joined: 25 Apr 2009
Location: Canada
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HellScourge wrote: jamnik_pucek wrote: SJ training requires tuition afaik, on the account that if you do it wrong, you can kill yourself in a variety of colorful, squishy ways. Hint: Appearing with your right side inside of a tree is not healthy. Hence why you should practice in flat empty places. If it's "flat and empty" then there's nothing to cast shadows large enough to jump through. If you take a student to such a place then all you are teaching them is to abuse the tool. There /must/ be a shadow at least half the size of the Dancer's body and a clear LOS to the landing targeted shadow. Teachers please remind yourselves before teaching someone else of the lore of the Dance. A good beginners guide has been long posted on the Academy. For those who have deeper questions about Shadow and Shadowplane lore you should PM a long time SD player such as Mahtan, myself or find a good resource online to read. Just make sure it's canon and not just someone's opinion of how they used it in a PnP session with a DM that didn't care _________________ Guys I play: Finng Meras Joshua Steel Daniel Makie Celub Elubmiire Tristan Len'ionel
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Wed, Oct 05 2011, 21:13 PM |
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
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A flat empty space could easily mean a cityscape setting, there's no need to pick over someone's words like that. Any of the instructors at the Three Steps Academy are great choices to PM, but for the better experience, find us in-game so we can chat about the lore in-character instead!
_________________  "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
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Scimiter
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Posted: Wed, Oct 05 2011, 21:23 PM |
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Joined: 25 Apr 2009
Location: Canada
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I'll concede on all points Sune. My apologies. I mean only to uphold the consistency of Shadow lore
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TheGoddessOfAmazing©
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 1:44 AM |
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Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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I've started to play Zae again, and would not be opposed to getting some training done if someone lets me know they need it.
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wereguy2
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 5:34 AM |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I'd do this, but I'm way too busy.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 19:08 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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QuestionGreater shadowjump can only be taught by one of 10+SD levels that allready have Lesser Shadowjump + Greater shadowjump, Correct?
But what about Lesser Shadowjump? Whom can teach it out?
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Analog Kid
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 19:25 PM |
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Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: The Great White North Eh!!
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beciv wrote: Is the greater Shadowjump widget required to teach Shadowjump or can it be done with the lesser widget? Analog Kid wrote: Best I know, you need to be a 'Master' Dancer, or lvl 10 SD. They are the same thing, fwiw You need to know something before you can teach it. And you need to be a lvl 10 SD to teach FAIK.
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I Am:
Derrin: 'Nothing to see here'
Beck: Hard working dwarf paladin.
Naela 'Widow': Wandering priestess.
Celinor Triellian: Paladin of Corellon.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 21:28 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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10+ SD, must already have Greater Jump. (which you get for free by being 10+ SD if you already have lesser/learned it when you were 10+SD.)
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 21:29 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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TormakSaber wrote: 10+ SD, must already have Greater Jump. (which you get for free by being 10+ SD if you already have lesser/learned it when you were 10+SD.) So level 6 sd's cant teach lesser shadowjump?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 21:30 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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No.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Feonir
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Posted: Thu, Oct 06 2011, 22:54 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Location: Lookin at folks like a son-of-a-bitch.
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Analog Kid wrote: beciv wrote: Is the greater Shadowjump widget required to teach Shadowjump or can it be done with the lesser widget? Analog Kid wrote: Best I know, you need to be a 'Master' Dancer, or lvl 10 SD. They are the same thing, fwiw You need to know something before you can teach it. And you need to be a lvl 10 SD to teach FAIK. Except for the two dancers who originally brought the notion to the island (And one of which who coded it and once of which who bitched about a gift horse lets guess who those were.) I guess. _________________  "I'm going to spend all my money on ale and whores." "Okay roll for whores." "That's 1d4 whores right?"
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Simeron
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Posted: Fri, Oct 07 2011, 15:27 PM |
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Joined: 30 Aug 2011
Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell
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Well, turning the helm back a bit toward the original thread line...
Krugan is approaching 6 SD...(currently 3, about to be 4 tonight I hope, should be 6 by Monday)...
A few questions...I am trying to RP things with the Academy. Time zone is a conflict I think there for an IC PC....so...this being said....the questions...
1) Do I need an instructor for HIPS at 6?
2) Do I need an instructor for LESSER at 6?
3) How exactly do you "teach" the skills once you learn them?
Last question is because Krugan will be going solid SD to 16 now. So by level 30 he will have 16 SD levels. I would very much like to have him be able to "teach" as a mentor and would enjoy investing time in other players doing so. I already have acquired a "student" more or less and had an instructor lined out (Mr. H that has taken a vacation from Amia) so, its one of those things that Krugan should be able to work out...just trying to iron out the details so we can do what is needed ICly is all though IG RP.
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Ya see, long time ago, me father taught me somethin that be right true.
An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices till they can't get it wrong.
Dwarves are professionals at what we do.
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P Three
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Posted: Fri, Oct 07 2011, 17:35 PM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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No instructor for HiPS is needed, but one is needed for Shadowjump. They're taught through RP lessons.
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Jes
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Posted: Thu, Nov 17 2011, 3:03 AM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: Camriiole
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Someone asked me about this in-game today, so I figured I'd ask!
Are you going to do this for the Flight widgets, too?
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Sighphyre
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Posted: Fri, Nov 18 2011, 10:52 AM |
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Joined: 16 Nov 2009
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Also, I see lots of replies from the Shadowjumpers but none from the 1000 Facers. Are there no 1000 Facers out there that are both willing and able to teach?
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Amarice-Elaraliel
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Posted: Fri, Nov 18 2011, 11:50 AM |
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Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Yossarin wrote: Obviously, don't post your lesson plan in this thread, please. Just send it in a PM. Some people might have done just that, hm? _________________  
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Alkor
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Posted: Sun, Nov 20 2011, 12:36 PM |
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Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Location: Somewhere on a tiny speck of a planet, in a tiny speck of a universe.
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What about the flight widget?
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Let's make it, not over.
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