|
|
|
Gunz
|
 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 21:15 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
|
|
Point is, they're far distant relatives though. Kurtulmak isn't given the Dragon domain in any source I've seen. He is given Scalykind though. He's a God of Kobolds, not Dragons, after all.
_________________
My Characters:
Yuilith Kethil Menaiivan Garadeth
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Guardian
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 21:20 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Location: The Sky Above The Rain.
|
|
Being a Helmite fanatic, I have to say that I am satisfied with the new settings for Helm deity.
Maybe, just maybe, I'd change nobility for courage. Given that Helmites are mostly chivalrious types and often seen in battle. Nobility sure strikes their ranks too, but not as often as courage.
But then again - it's just a thought and my opinion on Helm's dogma and His ways. And opinions may, and do, differ.
_________________
Mercadier - *sleeps six feet under the warm sands of Khem*
Alex - Life is adventure or nothing!
Eddie - Sex, drugs and rock'n... more sex.
=========
Obsidian (inactive)
|
|
|
|
|
|
DustSpray101
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 21:22 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Location: Night Vale
|
|
@Gunz
Not arguing that some Dragon should pray to Kurtulmak or that and I agree that Dragon is not one of his supported domains. I'm not looking for Dragon itself to get tossed on his list as that is just as silly as a reptilian domain IMHO.
As Kobolds are not reptiles according to the lore, I was curious what else there might be that could work that makes more sense than writing a Kobold off as a reptile. When looking at the racial subtype, is frankly a bit insulting to the concept of the race entirely.
_________________
Eli Hodgewall <{/,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~X
Sven <=={o===========>
Qeelak \ | / ,
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gunz
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 21:40 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
|
|
I'm not saying that you are, just trying to support why Scalykind was chosen and why I think it fits. And since you brought up dragons, I thought I'd argue against a Dragon domain while I was at it.
His domains in FR are: Earth, Evil, Hatred, Law, Scalykind, War.
That's straight from Faiths and Pantheons. If anything should be change, imo, it should be two of the following three: Craft, Luck and Trickery. And have them changed for Earth and War. But I understand why those three domains were added, since Kobos only have one supported God on Amia and it's nice to have the variety from the domains the DM team gave him. And it's not as if they don't fit, considering he's the head Kobo God, and by extension is vaguely a God that supports all things they partake in. But yeah, if we're going to try to be as lore correct as possible, I'd change two of those three (Craft, Luck and Trickery) for Earth and War. Especially War though. I think War is a very important domain to him.
_________________
My Characters:
Yuilith Kethil Menaiivan Garadeth
|
|
|
|
|
|
PaladinOfSune
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 22:50 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
|
|
I don't see a dragon domain fitting a kobold deity. Kurtulmak has nothing to do with dragons, ultimately.
_________________  "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
|
|
|
|
|
|
-Cloak-and-Dagger-
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 23:00 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
|
DustSpray101 wrote: As Kobolds are not reptiles according to the lore... Wait, wait. What? Quoth the Monster Manual: Small Humanoid (Reptillian). Kobolds are short, reptillian humanoids with cowardly and sadistic tendencies. Quoth the Letumlux thread: Kobolds are short, reptilian humanoids with bony frames and small tails. Quoth the R&L Subraces bit: Kobolds are small reptilian creatures about the size of gnomes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
DustSpray101
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 23:18 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Location: Night Vale
|
@-Cloak-and-Dagger-: Quoth Races of the Dragon (which is most recent): Quote: Humanoid (dragonblood, reptilian): Kobolds are humanoids with the dragonblood and reptilian subtypes. For all effects related to race, a kobold is considered a dragon.
...
Kobolds have close biological ties to dragons. The most important difference between the two, however, is that kobolds are cold-blooded creatures, and dragons are warm- blooded. While kobolds do generate some internal body heat from taking in food and engaging in activity, they are dependent on their environment for warmth. This is one reason why they live underground, especially in their native temperate climate. They are -not- purely reptiles is the point. Furthermore, culturally speaking, they draw far more from the Draconic end than the Reptilian. @Sune: As religions of Faerun tend to reflect culture or vice versa, I am simply at a loss that for Kobolds it looks like it is falling to the minority of the biological influence. *shrug* Not saying that Dragon would fit either though. But if you guys are going by Faiths and Pantheons I suppose it makes sense to some degree.
_________________
Eli Hodgewall <{/,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~X
Sven <=={o===========>
Qeelak \ | / ,
|
|
|
|
|
|
-Cloak-and-Dagger-
|
Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2011, 23:51 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
|
|
.....Does that apply to Amia, though? I don't know how good that sourcebook is. I've read the sister book "Races of Stone", and...I didn't like it. Purile revisionist tripe that I gladly ignore for better, older, info. Gelf Darkheath. Who the fuck is that?! You don't want to know. Anyways. Good info? Has that racial type change been ruled in here? Subrace page still has "racial type changes to reptillian"?
The other question would be how much the dragon idealogy is related to worship of Kurtulmak, how intertwined the two beliefs are in rat kobold culture.
And....after checking him over, i'm suprised he doesn't have Hatred domain? He ain't too fond of the superior gnomish peoples, I gather. And their boss. What, with the symbol, and all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
DustSpray101
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 0:20 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Location: Night Vale
|
|
Can't speak for the DMs, but, it appears to. My reason for thinking this is that if it didn't, I wouldn't have a Dragonwrought Kobold with Dragon Wings as all my source material for it was taken from Races of the Dragon and the Wings feat lists the dragonblood subtype as a pre-req.
As for ideology (which I assume you mean to be cultural influence in the day to day):
~All of Kobold (usually closely intertwined with Kurtulmak's) origin stories point at Tiamat (or a Green known as Caesinsjach, or Io. This gives a basis as to why many Kobolds will pray to much of the Draconic pantheon in addition to Kurtulmak.
~In tribal settings, at the start of every day, the entire tribe of Kobolds partake in what is known as 'Searching for the Dragon' which consists of 15 minutes of community meditation where the Kobolds direct their thoughts inwards and try to align themselves with their draconic heritage before they put to work.
Anyways though, if the list is mostly set to Faiths and Pantheons I can't really complain. Just makes for some interesting philosophical/religious discussions Kobold side I suppose.
_________________
Eli Hodgewall <{/,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~X
Sven <=={o===========>
Qeelak \ | / ,
|
|
|
|
|
|
-Cloak-and-Dagger-
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 0:25 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
|
|
He seems like one of those guys who could really do with 10 domains, rather than 6.
That depth is all new to me. I sat on the other side of the fence a while ago (Gnome Ranger. Guess the 1st favoured enemy I took!) but I was more interested in physiology than psychology. ie, where to stab.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gunz
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 1:06 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
|
|
Races of the Dragon is core, F&P is FR specific. Anything in core that contradicts FR specific stuff is ignored. At least that's usually the standard I find kept here on Amia.
You got Dragonwrought because it doesn't contradict anything FR specific, I imagine. It wouldn't make the whole book it came from lore for Amia though. That's for a DM to call though.
_________________
My Characters:
Yuilith Kethil Menaiivan Garadeth
|
|
|
|
|
|
Selvec Darkon
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 1:20 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
|
|
Amia Website/DM Information
|
FR 3.5
|
Core 3.5
|
Wizards Website/Dragon Magazine 3.5
|
FR 3.0
|
Core 3.0
|
Wizards Website/Dragon Magazine 3.0
|
Supplement 3.5 or 3.0
|
4.0/2.0 or Lower.
(List goes from top to bottom in first contact)
Usually the way it goes, unless the website or DM's state specfic information contradicting those sources. In the case of everything below the top one, Website/DM Information comes first. In the case of a DM contradicting the Website or another DM, thats when you ask for clarification, point out the conflict, and then the DM team probably discusses it. (With striptease dancing contests. Disco usually wins.)
_________________
I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
|
|
|
|
|
|
B3awulF
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 4:52 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 May 2009
|
A Small question about Hoar, why the Good domain? if Hoar is considered according to the Lore posted somehow related to Bane and some sort of neutral oriented to Evil Deity/Demigod... mmm wouldn't be better to keep the War domain instead of good as it was before? after all according to the wiki : "the Doombringer (hoar) has been consumed with plotting the downfall of Anhur, the Mulhorandi deity of war, and to a lesser extent, the pantheon that spawned him. " Then About travel domain according to the Lore posted; there is a fly option?  mmm that's gonna be implemented in the server too? i mean all the clerics with travel domain will be able to fly now? (providing they complete the proper rp for it off course) will they be some sort of flying or levitating clerics without wings? ahh and another question Pls, what happened with Asmodeus domains? Are they not going to be implemented?  Here is the link about hoar and the others i checked just in case: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Hoarhttp://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/clericDomains.htmhttp://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/AsmodeusCheers Wulf.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Naivatkal
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 5:22 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 26 May 2010
|
Big thing about Hoar: FRwiki wrote: Hoar is actually the ancient Untheric deity worshiped in the eastern Inner Sea lands as Assuran. Centuries past he was driven from Unther by Ramman, although his cult remained strong in Chessenta. He eventually slew his rival during the Time of Troubles, but Anhur stole Ramman's unclaimed portfolio before Hoar could act, earning Hoar's ire. Both Tyr and Bane contested for Hoar's tormented soul, as the Dark God sought to turn him into a servant of blind vengeance and bitterness while the Maimed God sought to unlock Hoar's bittersweet humor and shift his portfolio to favor irony and poetic justice. The part following that blurb takes place in 4e. The wiki unfortunately muddles that dirty 4e with the pristine 3.5e stuff, and the people that updated the pages didn't specify when the 4e lore begins :/ Good and Evil are part of his domains because: PaladinOfSune wrote: The law/chaos and good/evil domains being added to each and every god is something present in D&D, so I didn't want to deviate from that. The only exception here, in fact, is Hoar, because it was thought it'd be neat to represent it's wildly differing faith through giving it both Good and Evil domains. I really don't want to drop that theme, as I think each god should have their alignment represented as domains.
_________________
Whomst've'll'd'mn't I play:
Salema Nefahri :: A penny for your thots
Zrae'a'stra'fryn :: That which nightmares are made of
Khasir :: From the East a storm is coming
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 5:36 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
Naivatkal wrote: Big thing about Hoar: FRwiki wrote: Hoar is actually the ancient Untheric deity worshiped in the eastern Inner Sea lands as Assuran. Centuries past he was driven from Unther by Ramman, although his cult remained strong in Chessenta. He eventually slew his rival during the Time of Troubles, but Anhur stole Ramman's unclaimed portfolio before Hoar could act, earning Hoar's ire. Both Tyr and Bane contested for Hoar's tormented soul, as the Dark God sought to turn him into a servant of blind vengeance and bitterness while the Maimed God sought to unlock Hoar's bittersweet humor and shift his portfolio to favor irony and poetic justice. The part following that blurb takes place in 4e. The wiki unfortunately muddles that dirty 4e with the pristine 3.5e stuff, and the people that updated the pages didn't specify when the 4e lore begins :/ Good and Evil are part of his domains because: PaladinOfSune wrote: The law/chaos and good/evil domains being added to each and every god is something present in D&D, so I didn't want to deviate from that. The only exception here, in fact, is Hoar, because it was thought it'd be neat to represent it's wildly differing faith through giving it both Good and Evil domains. I really don't want to drop that theme, as I think each god should have their alignment represented as domains. NO. Hush. Tyr and Bane fight for Hoar's attention. In 4e he becomes an exarch of bane. He has not on Amia.... He killed Ramman but did not get his portfolio because of Anhur. He currently hates Anhur. Bane appeals for his lust of vengance and Tyr for his bitter sweet irony and sense of poetic justice. _________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 6:05 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
|
That is exactly that his post says. Relax, Pige.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
MoshingChris
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 6:14 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
|
|
To much sugar Pige his post. . .Tormak got in before me.
_________________
I play: Gage le Gris
Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
|
|
|
|
|
|
GreatPigeon
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 6:27 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
|
|
Not about sugar. Was multitasking and did not read it as correctly as I though....
Pigeon fails.... Falls from Coop. Dies an inglorious death to the rats without wings on the streets below.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Naivatkal
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 14:18 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 26 May 2010
|
|
Haha it's okay, I forgive you due to reasons of hilarity.
_________________
Whomst've'll'd'mn't I play:
Salema Nefahri :: A penny for your thots
Zrae'a'stra'fryn :: That which nightmares are made of
Khasir :: From the East a storm is coming
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dieu_Le_Fera
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 15:41 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
Location: Philadelphia
|
heres another question... like pnp spells could we use pnp abilities *of domains* if we ask permission of all involved? Im looking at you community domain! I expect this to be a fast and very loud NO! but I will ask and hope... Community Level 2: Status Monitors condition, position of allies. Quote: Status
Divination
Level: Clr 2
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Targets: One living creature touched per three levels
Duration: 1 hour/level
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)
When you need to keep track of comrades who may get separated, status allows you to mentally monitor their relative positions and general condition. You are aware of direction and distance to the creatures and any conditions affecting them: unharmed, wounded, disabled, staggered, unconscious, dying, nauseated, panicked, stunned, poisoned, diseased, confused, or the like. Once the spell has been cast upon the subjects, the distance between them and the caster does not affect the spell as long as they are on the same plane of existence. If a subject leaves the plane, or if it dies, the spell ceases to function for it. _________________  "It is by the holy beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning, it is by Java alone that I set my mind in motion."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Vaul Tarrith
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 15:57 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2009
Location: 9th Circle of Hell...with the steaks and Rum
|
|
It seems to me quite a few PnP spells are excruciatingly meta-gameable (how's THAT for a phrase?). This one encourages players to bombard the caster w/tells about their condition, allowing the caster to use 'instant communication' to stem the tide of battle. I was involved in a similar situation with the spell 'Sending', I believe it was.
In MY mind, one always has to be aware that players are like devils negotiating for an 'innocent' soul: if there IS a loophole, we'll find it.
That being said, it's my understanding that if EVERYONE involved agrees to it's use...game on. For better or worse...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dieu_Le_Fera
|
Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2011, 15:59 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
Location: Philadelphia
|
|
it is yeah... but its no worse then scry/greater scry and that spell is overused in my honest opinion
_________________ "It is by the holy beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning, it is by Java alone that I set my mind in motion."
|
|
|
|
|
|
B3awulF
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 7:45 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 11 May 2009
|
ahaa so Hoar is a naughty one after all, who sometimes goes good but mostly goes evil mmm  ''dark smile'' ok and what about the flying levitating cleric spell from the travel domain? that would be kind of weird to b honest but ... i guess it could lead to some sort of fun rp ''pictures a levitating cleric who is in a deep meditation or a stinky dwarf who's farts are so strong that actually make him fly '' and... no news about poor Asmodeus?
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 7:52 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
|
No flying. Don't bother asking.
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
PaladinOfSune
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 9:56 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
|
|
Don't ask about new gods until this system is in place. We have to give priority here.
_________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Charles1810
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 9:59 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
Location: Hubbard, Ohio
|
|
Is the prayer system being changed also or just a lot new prayers added?
_________________
Lieutenant Belalad Feiwallyan
((Please take note if you PM me and you are ignored resend to me in 1-3days, it is likely due to not realizing I got mail))
|
|
|
|
|
|
PaladinOfSune
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 10:05 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
|
|
New prayers.
_________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oinn
|
Posted: Thu, Jul 21 2011, 20:42 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 17 Aug 2008
Location: Inside the Twacka Minds
|
|
The whole thing is simply awesome. cant wait to see it all in place *dance around in anticipation*
_________________  ~Siggy by TheGoddessofAmazing!~
"...If your aren't getting what you want, suck harder.." (Hookah Tip # 35)~ Twackalope ~
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cratz
|
Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2011, 4:16 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 13 Mar 2009
|
You all have really outdone yourselves! A round of applause from me! And drinks if I were old enough... Small Clarification though: The Deity System page is going to be updated when this is implemented, correct? I don't like to read through pages of responses to read what I want to see. (Sorry if this is an annoyance!  )
_________________
I'm done. Goodbye.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Lord-Hadeis
|
Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2011, 6:52 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
Location: Netherlands, Schoonhoven
|
|
Yes lets anounce this with a new diety page and a new topic. I hate to have to keep track of all this jabbering to know when we're finally in agreement about the system
|
|
|
|
|
|
PaladinOfSune
|
Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2011, 7:23 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
|
|
There's nothing to 'agree' over. Everything is already done, as mentioned.
_________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Lord-Hadeis
|
Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2011, 7:51 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
Location: Netherlands, Schoonhoven
|
|
See this is what I mean. Never got that with all the talk going on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ozelotl
|
Posted: Wed, Aug 24 2011, 5:07 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 06 Apr 2011
Location: Ohio, USA
|
|
Are the bioware domain special abilities being replaced, kept, or ditched? Like plant gets turn vermin, war gets battle mastery, etc etc.
_________________
“The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking.”
-Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
|
|
Selmak
|
Posted: Wed, Aug 24 2011, 5:42 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 17 Dec 2004
|
|
They're pretty much the same. Some of the Bioware domains do get improved turning or other abilities they didn't have before, though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
ShortSlasher
|
Posted: Wed, Aug 24 2011, 6:12 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 May 2007
Location: Western Mass
|
|
Cooooooooooooooooool.
I am so excited for this!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Halecta
|
Posted: Wed, Aug 24 2011, 6:35 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2008
|
|
Balance doesnt seem to fit the elemental lords. All 4 of them seek to destroy the other ones, and be the dominant element. However by all 4 of them being in constant battle it creates balance, but each diety themselves do not want balance
|
|
|
|
|
|
O'Raghailligh
|
Posted: Wed, Aug 24 2011, 7:37 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 04 Jan 2009
Location: NZ
|
Quote: Balance is the center of the Law/Chaos and Good/Evil axis iirc.
Ie Balance can either be NG, TN, NE or LN, TN, CN.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Mon, Sep 19 2011, 21:03 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
Bumped for me!
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Mon, Sep 19 2011, 21:03 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
PaladinOfSune wrote: All right, I don't see the harm. Our deity system page will hold this stuff later on. Amia Deities:Abbathor:
Dwarf, Evil, Hatred, Luck, Trade, Trickery
Aerdrie Faenya:
Air, Animal, Chaos, Elf, Good, Renewal
Akadi:
Air, Animal, Illusion, Portal, Travel, Trickery
Angharradh:
Chaos, Elf, Good, Knowledge, Plant, Renewal
Anhur:
Air, Chaos, Courage, Good, Strength, War
Arvoreen:
Courage, Good, Halfling, Law, Protection, War
Auril:
Air, Cold, Destruction, Evil, Suffering, Water
Azuth:
Illusion, Knowledge, Law, Magic, Rune, Spell
Bahamut:
Air, Cold, Dragon, Good, Law, Protection
Bahgtru:
Chaos, Evil, Hatred, Orc, Strength, War
Bane:
Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Law, Strength, Tyranny
Baravar Cloakshadow:
Darkness, Gnome, Good, Illusion, Protection, Trickery
Berronar Truesilver:
Community, Dwarf, Good, Healing, Law, Protection
Beshaba:
Charm, Chaos, Evil, Fate, Luck, Trickery
Brandobaris:
Charm, Halfling, Illusion, Luck, Travel, Trickery
Callarduran Smoothhands:
Cavern, Craft, Earth, Gnome, Plant, Travel
Chauntea:
Animal, Earth, Good, Plant, Protection, Renewal
Clangeddin Silverbeard:
Courage, Dwarf, Good, Law, Strength, War
Corellon Larethian:
Chaos, Elf, Good, Magic, Protection, War
Cyric:
Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Illusion, Trickery
Cyrrollalee:
Community, Craft, Good, Halfling, Law, Travel
Deep Duerra:
Cavern, Dwarf, Evil, Knowledge, Law, War
Deep Sashelas:
Chaos, Elf, Good, Knowledge, Travel, Water
Dugmaren Brightmantle:
Chaos, Craft, Dwarf, Good, Knowledge, Rune
Dumathoin:
Cavern, Craft, Dwarf, Earth, Knowledge, Protection
Eilistraee:
Chaos, Charm, Drow, Good, Moon, Portal
Eldath:
Balance, Community, Good, Plant, Protection, Water
Erevan Ilesere:
Charm, Chaos, Elf, Illusion, Luck, Trickery
Faluzure:
Death, Dragon, Evil, Darkness, Magic, Undeath
Fenmarel Mestarine:
Animal, Chaos, Darkness, Elf, Plant, Travel
Garagos:
Chaos, Destruction, Hatred, Retribution, Strength, War
Gargauth:
Charm, Evil, Knowledge, Law, Trickery, Tyranny
Garl Glittergold:
Craft, Gnome, Good, Law, Protection, Trickery
Geb:
Cavern, Craft, Earth, Knowledge, Protection, Strength
Ghaunadaur:
Cavern, Chaos, Drow, Evil, Hatred, Slime
Gond:
Craft, Earth, Fire, Knowledge, Trade, Rune
Gorm Gulthym:
Dwarf, Good, Law, Protection, Strength, War
Grazzt:
Chaos, Charm, Evil, Knowledge, Trickery, War
Grumbar:
Balance, Cavern, Earth, Rune, Strength, Time
Gruumsh:
Cavern, Chaos, Evil, Orc, Strength, War
Haela Brightaxe:
Chaos, Community, Dwarf, Good, Luck, War
Hanali Celanil:
Chaos, Charm, Elf, Good, Magic, Protection
Hathor:
Animal, Community, Good, Fate, Moon, Protection
Helm:
Community, Law, Nobility, Protection, Strength, War
Hoar:
Evil, Good, Fate, Law, Retribution, Travel
Horus Re:
Courage, Good, Law, Nobility, Retribution, Sun
Ilmater:
Good, Healing, Law, Renewal, Strength, Suffering
Ilneval:
Courage, Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Orc, War
Isis:
Air, Community, Good, Magic, Plant, Water
Istishia:
Air, Cold, Destruction, Magic, Travel, Water
Jergal:
Death, Fate, Law, Repose, Rune, Suffering
Kelemvor:
Fate, Law, Nobility, Protection, Repose, Travel
Kiaransalee:
Chaos, Drow, Evil, Magic, Retribution, Undeath
Kossuth:
Destruction, Fire, Magic, Portal, Renewal, Suffering
Kurtulmak:
Craft, Evil, Law, Luck, Scalykind, Trickery
Labelas Enoreth:
Chaos, Elf, Good, Knowledge, Rune, Time
Laduguer:
Craft, Dwarf, Evil, Law, Magic, Protection
Lathander:
Good, Nobility, Protection, Renewal, Strength, Sun
Lliira:
Chaos, Charm, Community, Good, Travel
Lolth:
Chaos, Drow, Evil, Darkness, Destruction, Trickery
Loviatar:
Evil, Law, Retribution, Strength, Suffering
Luthic:
Cavern, Earth, Evil, Community, Healing, Orc
Maglubiyet:
Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Trickery, Tyranny, War
Malar:
Animal, Chaos, Evil, Moon, Strength, Suffering
Marthammor Duin:
Community, Dwarf, Good, Protection, Strength, Travel
Mask:
Charm, Darkness, Evil, Luck, Travel, Trickery
Mephistopheles:
Evil, Fire, Knowledge, Law, Rune, Spell
Mielikki:
Animal, Good, Moon, Plant, Sun, Travel
Milil:
Charm, Good, Illusion, Knowledge, Nobility, Trickery
Moradin:
Craft, Dwarf, Earth, Good, Law, Protection
Mystra:
Good, Illusion, Knowledge, Magic, Rune, Spell
Nephthys:
Chaos, Good, Protection, Renewal, Trade, Travel
Nobanion:
Animal, Community, Courage, Good, Law, Nobility
Oberon:
Charm, Chaos, Good, Illusion, Nobility, Trickery
Oghma:
Balance, Charm, Knowledge, Luck, Travel, Trickery
Orcus:
Chaos, Darkness, Death, Destruction, Evil, Undeath
Osiris:
Good, Law, Plant, Repose, Renewal, Retribution
Queen of Air and Darkness:
Air, Chaos, Darkness, Evil, Illusion, Trickery
Red Knight:
Knowledge, Law, Nobility, Protection, Strength, War
Rillifane Rallathil:
Chaos, Elf, Good, Plant, Protection, Renewal
Salandra:
Balance, Community, Healing, Good, Protection, Renewal
Savras:
Dream, Fate, Knowledge, Law, Magic, Spell
Sehanine Moonbow:
Chaos, Dream, Elf, Good, Illusion, Moon
Selune:
Chaos, Dream, Good, Moon, Protection, Travel
Selvetarm:
Chaos, Drow, Evil, Hatred, Strength, War
Set:
Air, Darkness, Evil, Hatred, Law, Scalykind
Shar:
Cavern, Charm, Darkness, Evil, Knowledge, Trickery
Sharess:
Chaos, Charm, Good, Protection, Travel, Trickery
Sharindlar:
Chaos, Charm, Dwarf, Good, Healing, Moon
Shaundakul:
Air, Chaos, Portal, Protection, Trade, Travel
Sheela Peryroyl:
Air, Charm, Earth, Illusion, Halfling, Plant
Shevarash:
Chaos, Elf, Hatred, Retribution, Strength, War
Siamorphe:
Charm, Community, Knowledge, Law, Nobility, Protection
Silvanus:
Animal, Balance, Plant, Protection, Renewal, Water
Solonor Thelandira:
Animal, Chaos, Elf, Good, Plant, War
Sune:
Chaos, Charm, Community, Fire, Good, Protection
Talona:
Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Slime, Suffering
Talos:
Air, Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Retribution
Tempus:
Chaos, Courage, Protection, Retribution, Strength, War
Thoth:
Craft, Knowledge, Moon, Magic, Rune, Spell
Tiamat:
Dragon, Evil, Law, Scalykind, Strength, Tyranny
Titania:
Charm, Chaos, Good, Illusion, Magic, Nobility
Torm:
Courage, Good, Healing, Law, Protection, Strength
Tymora:
Chaos, Good, Luck, Protection, Travel, Trickery
Tyr:
Good, Knowledge, Law, Retribution, Strength, War
Ulutiu:
Animal, Law, Cold, Community, Protection, Strength
Umberlee:
Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Hatred, Retribution, Water
Urdlen:
Chaos, Darkness, Earth, Evil, Gnome, Hatred
Urogalan:
Earth, Halfling, Knowledge, Law, Protection, Repose
Uthgar:
Animal, Chaos, Courage, Retribution, Strength, War
Valkur:
Air, Chaos, Good, Protection, Water, War
Velsharoon:
Death, Evil, Knowledge, Magic, Spell, Undeath
Vergadain:
Craft, Dwarf, Luck, Rune, Trade, Trickery
Vhaeraun:
Charm, Chaos, Drow, Evil, Travel, Trickery
Waukeen:
Balance, Knowledge, Portal, Protection, Trade, Travel
Yondalla:
Community, Good, Halfling, Law, Protection, Renewal
Quoted for me!
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
Galenson
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 9:57 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
|
|
I'm impressed: Baghtru, Gruumsh and Ilneval are actually different from each other. I'll be honest when I say I never saw that coming.
_________________
Plays:
"I'll think of something once Amia:EE drops."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 10:21 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
I find it weird that Deities like Savras and Lathander doesn't have Time in their portfolios.
AND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AMAUNATOR!
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
DerkDerkistan
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 10:47 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Location: Earth
|
|
Isn't Amauntor just another name for Lathander? Or a dead deity that Lathander took over for?
_________________
Remember when I knew a boxer, baby
|
|
|
|
|
|
PaladinOfSune
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 10:48 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
|
|
Yep.
_________________ "Let's unwrite these pages and replace them with our own words."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 10:53 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
Oh.
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
-Cloak-and-Dagger-
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 10:56 AM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
|
|
In Amia's time, Amaunator is considered a dead deity.
The Risen Sun Heresy sect of the Church of Lathander believe Lathander is Amaunator reborn.
In 4E, years into the future, they are proven right. Irrelevant to us unless the DMs run with that plot to whatever end. They could make him a different deity if they want, they could let him rot, could bring him back as Lathander, bring him back as someone else...but for now, irrelevant. He is dead.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TormakSaber
|
Posted: Tue, Sep 20 2011, 18:16 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
|
There is a well known cleric on Amia that believes in the Risen Sun. 
_________________
Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Wed, Sep 21 2011, 13:41 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
I do not understand the difference between spell and magic domain. Why do some gods have both of those domains when they give basically the same spells?
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
|
Selmak
|
Posted: Wed, Sep 21 2011, 14:31 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 17 Dec 2004
|
|
They have Mage Armour and Lesser Spell Mantle in common, that's it.
Just because a deity has both those domains, doesn't mean their clerics are necessarily going to have to choose those together.
There is a limited selection of spells in NWN, as well, so some domains are bound to have spells in common.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dark Immolation
|
Posted: Wed, Sep 21 2011, 17:05 PM |
|
|
Developer
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
|
|
Well it's in the name really, from what I can gather.
All Spells are Magic, but not all Magic comes in the form of a Spell, if that makes any sense. Deities that have the Spell Domain probably focus more on the actual creation, history, and perfecting of Spellcraft(usually Arcane), while ones with Magic domain have a broader scope of magic in general, whether in the form of spells, leylines, wards, innate magical qualities, magic on other planes, etc. Granted, for most deities we associate with magic in general it seems redundant(Azuth, Mystra, and Sarvas all have both of course), but there are plenty of other deities that just have Magic domain and not Spell. That pretty much is there to show while they are interested in some sort of magical endeavor, it's not really their cup of tea to go around and encourage the perfecting of spells, specifically.
Laduguer likely wants his followers interested in magic so they can overcome the horrors of the Underdark and as well to edify their magical crafts. Selune probably wants her worshipers to seek out magic as it is arguably the most powerful tool of change that exists in the realms. Velsharoon more or less wants his followers to gain knowledge and magic is probably some of the most worthwhile knowledge there can be. However, none of these deities likely care for magic to the point where they feel the art of spellcraft is a foremost part of their doctrine. That, or they probably can't get their hands on a portfolio like that without bumping into some of the other gods of their pantheon.
_________________  You think Magic is your ally... but you merely adopted the Art. He was born in it. Molded by it.
Sometimes, an angel is simply a devil with better intentions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mobile_Svensk
|
Posted: Wed, Sep 21 2011, 18:09 PM |
|
|
Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
|
|
And come to think of it, Should't Shevarash have Cavern as his domain considered many of his Shrines are actually IN The underdark, Inside caverns and underneath the ground?
That, or darkness - I have no idea where Strenght came from.
And Talos? Should't he have Fire in his Portfolio?
_________________
Amia Minecraft Server Ip: vps1602.directvps.nl
NWN Damage Calculator: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/dnd/
NWN Build Calculator: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=856
|
|
|
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Login
