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GreatPigeon
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 Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 21:43 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
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Hey to all you folks out there that are Druids or Rangers. Im gonna be making one here, never done this before, and curious as to what companions there are. I can see from list and all, but like,
What is their AC, AB, and Damage? Im not neccessarily gonna pick the highest jsut to be tough. I was thinking a Boar because it fits in with my character or the Panther.
Do they have any abilities like picking locks and such, like familars have?
I have heard much talk about how bad-explective the animal compantion on, does it die easy?
Help *makes small meep noise*
EDIT: Later on down the road I will request a reskin for the pet, any idea what matches a chult well? And what skin to use to represent it?
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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hendrack
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 21:45 PM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Location: Vienna
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A buffed boar sometimes is better than another melee party member. Amia summons and druid/ranger pets are beefed up and stronger than stock NWN. I'd take the bear or boar over a panther. As far as I know only the wiz/sorc fey familiars can open locks.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 21:51 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Im gonna be playing chultan Ranger so Boar or Panther, dont find many Bears in the jungle. Boars or Javelina, are quite common however.
I know ranger has greater magic fang to help out its cute little ferocious furry friend, but other then pots waht else can you do to help the pet.
I was thinking:
Bull Strength
Cats Grace
Misty Potion
Stoneskin
Is their AC real good or is it constand use heal pack on the piggy? My character will have decent AB (47 max at level 30) and decent AC (55 no epic items). So i can share soem of the aggro with him. I also wont use it like how some do send the pet in to die and feel nothing, I will rp the piggy running away or something like that but feel guilty when he is hurt.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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hendrack
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 21:59 PM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Location: Vienna
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Piggy cannot tank, but its a damage cannon. You'll need WIS because later on critters will cast banishment and such. Spell resistance casted on the piggy is your friend.
There are also some items for ranger/druid pets in the module waiting for you to find them. 
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:07 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Items for pets? Hey thats pretty darn cool. Ranger wont have SR and my current idea for build only has 14 wis. For most part though I am not gonna powerlevel so once i hit 20-25 Im gonna just worry about makigns money,
I know i know its wrong but i love da shiny stuff, Id still RP him constantly, But being the guy who can run the abyss by himself or what not is not my cup-o-tea.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:09 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Come to think of it, I guess there is a faction called the Grove or the one called the Glade. I will be playing a lawful nuetral one, wish i knew more about those factions OOC before I jumped in IC to them. Is there a post about them or something.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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hendrack
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:10 PM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Location: Vienna
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My mistake, you'll need WIS on the pet to bump its wisdom. Owl's potion or scroll do the trick.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:11 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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WooHoo!
I will also have 30 UMD at level 27, 0 until then however, I think this should open up use of a lot of items and make me happy camper.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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QPR
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:45 PM |
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Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Location: Norway
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If you go Druid, you have the most soloable character in the module. Awesome summon + companion beast + buffs = damage galore. For a ranger your companion will be slightly less powerfull given your lack of buffing spells, but on the other hand, you will actually do some damage too. The Direwolf with its high dex can get into the 40's AC wise, while the boar and the bear might touch allmost 40 when hasted, if you take alot of ranger levels.
The Boar, when fully ranger buffed, is on par/slightly below a WM AB and damage wise. It will have more AB than you though. When druid buffed... its a beast.
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Garret Smith - Archer and peddler of deity-statuettes
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Jun 04 2009, 22:51 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Jeez, I'm going to have pet WM? All i need now is a pet sorceror. Here castercastercastercaster.
Im not a big fan of druids, cant get into mind frame to use them. But who knows down the road I might make another. I enjoy doing melee though.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Gunz
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 0:02 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Animal Companions aren't like Familiars. They're normal animals and therefor would not be able to lock pick or do anything an intelligent familiar can.
Mind that the items for your pet that are being talked about are not items you can have your pet wear, they're items made specifically to beef up your companion.
I would say a panther, boar, reskin a panther or direwolf to a tiger, reskin a hawk to a parrot, reskin a rat to a snake, theres a lot of neat options for you. But, you also have to consider that you no longer live in a jungle and if your character would really put an animal, who is not versatile in it's ability to live in very different temperament, in a normal forest and even cold forests. So a snake would be a pretty poor choice I would say. Tigers, Boars and Panthers would be your best options. A parrot would probably do okay too, but not so good in frigged areas.
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Yurell
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 0:12 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Druid animal companions are awesome. I made my first druid a couple of weeks ago and was amazed at how easy it was to use them to solo.
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Gunz
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 0:14 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 3:45 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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*Flags down Balance Bovine for Druidic Pet notation*
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HellScourge
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 6:19 AM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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About the AC. The familiar of my sorcerer has 40 ac at level 24 or so.
Which is a lot... at least for my sorc <.<
and since you get
Armor Class +1 / 2 CL
Would that net some good ac, combined with the natural ac progression if I remember it correctly.
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QPR
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 6:47 AM |
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Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Location: Norway
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Not really, no. I have a level 20 ranger, and with the cats grace + haste item it puts the boar to max 33 AC. So sucky AC, but good DR and awesome damage.
Mind you that the extra AC is added as natural AC, and wont stack with barkskin.
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"Edwin do this, Edwin do that. Somebody get this jerk a banana!" - Edwin, BG II
Valygar 'Stonesnake' Stark -Human Ranger
Garret Smith - Archer and peddler of deity-statuettes
Dáin Saltbeard - Dwarven sailor and fencer. No, I'm not joking.
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Ts_
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 7:35 AM |
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Joined: 28 Jul 2008
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I think someone said that it's "neutral" AC, so it stacks with everything. Can be tested easily, I guess, or search the forums.
Regards, Ts
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Yurell
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 7:36 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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I am quite certain it's natural
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Uberuce
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 7:57 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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The Boar and Dire Wolf only have one creature weapon, which makes them the best to slap Flameweapon, Darkfire, Clang or Bless Weapon.
When those spells are absent or useless, the Bear hits hardest except for the Panther, if the stupid feline is flanking, which it is infuriatingly unwilling to do.
The Dire Wolf (and maybe the Panther, I dunno) will Bard or Cleric buff to having workable AC, while the other two are HP/DR sinks.
The rest of the animals suck.
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Kjetta
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 8:12 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2006
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I really should fall any Paladin that casts Deafening Clang on an allied Animal Companion. If sonic-booming teeth isn't animal cruelty, then what is? >.>
_________________ To err is human; to forgive divine, but VENGEANCE IS MINE!
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Uberuce
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 8:23 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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But look at the wonderful shiny enamel it gives.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 8:49 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Mind if Weapon Finesse were added to the little wolf it'd be comparable to the "Big Three".
*Noddles*
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HellScourge
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 8:53 AM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Barkskin adds natural AC too I think, so it does not stack in fact.
Also tested it, it doesn't stack.
If it should though.. hmm..
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 9:07 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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Quote: Familiars and Animal Companions
The summoned creature gains the following benefits:
• Armor Class +1 / 2 CL
• Claw Enhancement +1 / 5 CL
• Regeneration +1 / 5 CL
• Attack Bonus +2 / 5 CL
• Universal Saving Throw Bonus +1 / 5 CL
• Resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage
• 1st – 10thCL: 5/-
• 11th – 20th CL: 10/-
• 21st – 30th CL: 15/-
That bonus there is Natural AC. It sure could stack, but I honestly don't think that the animal companions need any enhancing. _________________  UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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QPR
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 9:09 AM |
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Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Location: Norway
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Actually, the boar hits harder than the bear, as the bear at 25-30 levels have 2d8/2d8/2d12, while the boar has 2d12 on all attacks.
The difference isnt big ofcourse, and partially offset by the bear having higher str, as well as dex and con. Which of the two is better is more or less wether you want slightly more damage or slightly more HP
And that the AC is said to be Neutral in the battle log must be a spelling error. It is Natural, and doesent stack with barkskin.
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"Edwin do this, Edwin do that. Somebody get this jerk a banana!" - Edwin, BG II
Valygar 'Stonesnake' Stark -Human Ranger
Garret Smith - Archer and peddler of deity-statuettes
Dáin Saltbeard - Dwarven sailor and fencer. No, I'm not joking.
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Ts_
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 10:24 AM |
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QPR wrote: And that the AC is said to be Neutral in the battle log must be a spelling error. It is Natural, and doesent stack with barkskin.
Ah, that explains where I got that idea from.
Thanks, Ts
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 11:34 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Once again Thanks!
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Kjetta
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 11:51 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2006
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Chultan? Reskin it to a dinosaur! The Bulette's already been used for this. Next one out's gotta be:
Enlarge the cockatrice model for something like this:
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Bravo21
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 16:54 PM |
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Uberuce wrote: When those spells are absent or useless, the Bear hits hardest except for the Panther, if the stupid feline is flanking, which it is infuriatingly unwilling to do.
By having the panther hold back a half round it will flank around another party member or another summon. In addition, at over 20th level the panther usually gets two sneaks on the spawns before they react and the spawns will attack another summon or party member rather thatn the panther providing for more flank attacks. Plus there is no better protector animal companion, when you get attacked select 'Guard me' and your opponent gets sneaked. The panther rocks at low level when you need serious protection, and I was pleasantly surprised that it stays rather powerful at high levels as well. Provided of course you don't just summon and forget about it, using commands with companions is a must, they can't compensate for their own weaknesses, that's your job.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 16:56 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Right enough, I only ever used it for one level before giving up in disgust, so I didn't give it a chance.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Fri, Jun 05 2009, 17:29 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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Ya Kjetta, a friggin dinosaur would rock! Just need 9 more DCs XD
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Galenson
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Posted: Sat, Jun 06 2009, 6:33 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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The companions are just flavour to the mix. Some are better then others yes but even with their awesome Amia buffs, for a ranger 90% of the time in epic spawns it'll be dismissed/banished.
Choose which one you think matches the character, don't revolve your character around how awesome their summon is. As I keep telling people: The summons are there to take some damage off the character, not the other way around.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sat, Jun 06 2009, 7:15 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
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DINOSAUR *rawr* I am thinking boar or panther dressed up as a dinosaur. Man the pictures I saw of the chultan so caleld dino were my favortite as a kid, the one with hat big o' claw on his foot
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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Yurell
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Posted: Sat, Jun 06 2009, 7:26 AM |
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GreatPigeon wrote: DINOSAUR *rawr* I am thinking boar or panther dressed up as a dinosaur. Man the pictures I saw of the chultan so caleld dino were my favortite as a kid, the one with hat big o' claw on his foot
I think a boar would be great for that reskin
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sat, Jun 06 2009, 7:29 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
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Ya! Any way I can see the reskin, Id like to see the enlarge cockatrice.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sat, Jun 06 2009, 21:46 PM |
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Would I get frowns if i took a reskinned boar as a dino to Forstakkr?
Also does anyone have NWN2 the storm of zehir? I heard they have dino companions and I cant seem to find what it looks like on there, no pics.
_________________ The Peacock wrote: [GreatPigeon] is better than me. Uncle-Opustus wrote: Just before I fall asleep, I like to pretend it's just a public feat so Pigeon can succeed in politics and save the world from poverty... with his unicorn and shining armour and Excalibur.
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