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Ork behavior is dominated by the WAAAGH!, a gestalt psychic field they generate that affects the Ork psyche, which allows Orks to instinctively recognize who is "bigga", and therefore who is in charge, since might makes right in Ork society. All Orks generate this field, and it grows stronger as the Orks enjoy themselves, generally while fighting, and as more of them congregate together in one geographical area. The WAAAGH! helps give momentum to the Orks' planetary assault campaigns, which are also known as WAAAGHs! (the Orks like to call a lot of things WAAAGH!s). Such a WAAAGH! is a cross between a holy crusade and a pub crawl, with a bit of genocide thrown in for good measure.

Yurtrus's worshippers are the reaping wind, using plagues and diseases to cull the weak and harden the strong in their own ranks. They also have the added benefit of using these diseases against their enemies too... sometimes.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the elves and orcs born from when Corellon and Gruumsh fought from when each of their blood hit the earth?

but he's not supported in the deity system here is he?

Galenson wrote:

I'd really love to do some really creepy stuff as a cleric of Yurtrus (even Gruumsh won't bother the guy if he's taking too long in the toilet), but he's not supported in the deity system here is he?

No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. Only Drow players are crazy enough to do that because they have the chance to backstab them later.

If there is a cleric of a deity not yet featured, you can just use some placeholder deity and request an idol to be added.

No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males.

I am interested in this but I have a few questions which I had posted in another thread with a similar goblin/orcish theme.

First will this clan eventually be filled with dragon winged gobos who speak perfect yet sardonically inflected common, who spend their days sneering down (up...) at folk at Bendir Dale?

Second will the roles and status of races like Ogrillions and Hobgoblins be in keeping with the lore that such creatures have in regards to gobos?

I have an mechanically based ogrillion character that is ICly more Ogre than Orc and played as such, that I would love to see in the company of some excellent gobos but not if its going to turn into anything like the first question and/or nothing like the second question

No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. Only Drow players are crazy enough to do that because they have the chance to backstab them later.

This clan vs the other tribe, brawls in Kampo's I say!

Are 1/2 orcs considered Underdark races? Should I look to start on a certain server?

Author:	inprison666 [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 17:52 PM ]
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If anyone is interested in starting a clan with my new Ogrillon Aazog, shoot me a pm, holla at me here or in game. Must hate humans and we elect new leaders only through combat and assassination. True carnage is planned (sorta).

Author:	maglorine [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 17:54 PM ]
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75062 Like minds should get together!

Author:	inprison666 [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 18:30 PM ]
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Just read and this is cool but primarily looks for gobos only/mostly. We should do a orc/gobo merger and really cause pain.

Author:	MisterLich [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 18:47 PM ]
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I fully support this notion! Yes!

Author:	555444333 [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 23:06 PM ]
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WAAAAAGH! 'Ere we go! 'Ere we go! 'Ere we go!

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Author:	Lutra [ Mon, Jan 20 2014, 23:14 PM ]
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I think you should restart Galenson's Dark Horde!!!!! The motto is: "Wanna kill elves because elves are lame!!"

Author:	555444333 [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 0:09 AM ]
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Too specific. I prefer the WAAAGH! philosophy... Not saying you have to believe all of it, or that it all applies to Toril Orcs but... yeh. Quote: Ork behavior is dominated by the WAAAGH!, a gestalt psychic field they generate that affects the Ork psyche, which allows Orks to instinctively recognize who is "bigga", and therefore who is in charge, since might makes right in Ork society. All Orks generate this field, and it grows stronger as the Orks enjoy themselves, generally while fighting, and as more of them congregate together in one geographical area. The WAAAGH! helps give momentum to the Orks' planetary assault campaigns, which are also known as WAAAGHs! (the Orks like to call a lot of things WAAAGH!s). Such a WAAAGH! is a cross between a holy crusade and a pub crawl, with a bit of genocide thrown in for good measure.

Author:	Charles1810 [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 1:36 AM ]
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May be interested in this.

Author:	Galenson [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 7:17 AM ]
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As much as I'm a huge fan of Warhammer Orks, they are very different in philosophy to the orcish subraces of the Forgotten Realms. The Waaagh! mentality doesn't really work for them. In Warhammer, the warmongering brutality of the Orks comes from a racial instinct to fight and thrive from fighting. They grow bigger the longer they live fighting and sheer size is considered a privilege of status along with scars and the number of teeth they have. Orkish society also works around two principles: the first is the more teeth you have, the richer you are. The second however is that bigger is better. An Ork Warboss in Warhammer is generally the boss because he is the biggest, meanest, toughest ork in the warband who has the most killiest choppas/klaw, has the loudest, shootiest shoota, possesses the largest battle wagon or bike with the most red paint on it (which makes it go faster) and who has the most heads on his boss pole. Not because he's the brightest or smartest. There are exceptions to this naturally such as Black Orcs in fantasy (who still abide by the bigger is better rule) and Big Mek Klans in 40k but generally this is the case. In the Forgotten Realms, the orcish hatred of all other races is as much a religious one then it is a cultural one. In orcish folk lore, the rest of the gods (including the Seldarine) took all the good land and left Gruumsh with nothing. Gruumsh then smote the ground with his spear, creating caves and badlands for the orcs to inhabit and vowed to take what he was unrightfully cheated from by force. The other Orcish deities all work with Gruumsh towards this goal, but they are very different in their philosophies towards it: Baghtru's worshippers prefer fighting their enemies head on, charging recklessly with no plans or strategy, just pure violence and bravery. He's favoured by Ogrillons and Tanar'ukks because of this. Illneval's worshippers, generally Orogs and Grey Orcs, are more tactically minded then their other brethren who favour cunning strategies, better weapons and brutality to win battles. Shaargas's worshippers on the other hand prefer culling the weak from the darkness, using the unforseen death to strike blind fear into their fellow tribe members, their rivals and sometimes their enemies. yes, orcs (particularly Orogs) have assassins in their culture. And finally, Yurtrus's worshippers are the reaping wind, using plagues and diseases to cull the weak and harden the strong in their own ranks. They also have the added benefit of using these diseases against their enemies too... sometimes. Orcs are also divided into subraces in the Forgotten Realms and in their culture, size isn't everything. The general rule is that if an orc can back their strength with a cunning intelligence, they will prevail over their rivals. Because of this Ogrillons and Tanar'ukks who are the largest and most violent subraces of orcs are rarely ever leaders. Orogs, Grey Orcs and even Hob-goblins on the other hand who are stronger, incredibly indrustrialised and intelligent compared to the rest of the subraces, are rarely not leaders if they are present in a mountain orc force. But then again... no-one can deny how entertaining the Waaagh! mentality of Warhammer Orks is. If you want to implement something similar, then go for it. I just think the FR orcish elements are just as good in their own way.

Author:	inprison666 [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 7:56 AM ]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the elves and orcs born from when Corellon and Gruumsh fought from when each of their blood hit the earth? Anyway I prefer the Realm orcs having never played Warhammer.

Author:	Arcadence [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 8:14 AM ]
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Galenson wrote: Yurtrus's worshippers are the reaping wind, using plagues and diseases to cull the weak and harden the strong in their own ranks. They also have the added benefit of using these diseases against their enemies too... sometimes. I'd really love to do some really creepy stuff as a cleric of Yurtrus (even Gruumsh won't bother the guy if he's taking too long in the toilet), but he's not supported in the deity system here is he?

Author:	Galenson [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 8:29 AM ]
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inprison666 wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the elves and orcs born from when Corellon and Gruumsh fought from when each of their blood hit the earth? So the myths say. The Elves also say that Corellon ripped Gruumsh's eye out during the same battle, wheras the orcs say he only ever had one eye. Its all the same in the end: the orcs hate the rest of the world because Gruumsh was denied what was rightfully his.

Author:	IronAngel [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 12:02 PM ]
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Arcadence wrote: but he's not supported in the deity system here is he? If he's a legitimate Forgotten Realms deity (in some FR book on the pantheons, or in a core book which says it also applies to FR) you can just play it anyway. The deity system isn't normative and doesn't set the limits of what exists in the world; rather, things get added to it as necessary. If there is a cleric of a deity not yet featured, you can just use some placeholder deity and request an idol to be added. There are literally hundreds of deities in the Realms, not all of them even mentioned in any one place (some of them nowhere, probably), and most of them will never be worshiped by Amian PCs, so no point putting them all in.

Author:	555444333 [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 13:54 PM ]
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A bunch of WAAAGH! prone Baghtru-worshipping Ogrillions might just be the ticket then

Author:	inprison666 [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 21:18 PM ]
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I hope so. Ive already got about 5 others interested in game. I'll be on tonight with Aazog Manslayer.

Author:	Pony [ Tue, Jan 21 2014, 14:52 PM ]
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I am up for joining this!

Author:	3DMG [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 0:37 AM ]
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Like Iron said there are tons of gods not supported by Amia. And not even all of them are beast gods like Ilsensine (Illithid), Sekolah (Sauhagin), and Blibdoolpoolp (Kuo-toa)(Though these gods are excluded for obvious reasons) they're even missing human deities like Ubtao, and alot of the god-like Devils, like Baalzebul, Glasya, Mammon, Fierna, Belial, Bel, Dispater, ect.

Author:	MisterLich [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 1:17 AM ]
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Arcadence wrote: Galenson wrote: Yurtrus's worshippers are the reaping wind, using plagues and diseases to cull the weak and harden the strong in their own ranks. They also have the added benefit of using these diseases against their enemies too... sometimes. I'd really love to do some really creepy stuff as a cleric of Yurtrus (even Gruumsh won't bother the guy if he's taking too long in the toilet), but he's not supported in the deity system here is he? Actually, I used to play the only (or at least the first) Yurtrus worshipper on Arelith, and I can tell you from what I researched of Yurtrus (because I wanted to get it absolutely right) that you're sort of wrong, Arcadence. Yurtrus clerics and shamans actually determine what food is poisoned or disease-ridden for their tribes, and ensure that the tribe is plague-free; they also heal sickness in warriors that have been injured in battle. They use pestilence and disease to strike at any that are not in their tribe, but they use their abilities to help their tribe and keep it safe. It's a really, really interesting religious group, and I highly reccomend it for anyone interested in playing a divine magic user orc. It's really fun.

Author:	inprison666 [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 1:24 AM ]
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Would be interesting to see a priestess of Luthic as well. Gruumsh's wife and Godess of fertility and servitude.

Author:	Galenson [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 3:40 AM ]
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No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. Only Drow players are crazy enough to do that because they have the chance to backstab them later.

Author:	GreatPigeon [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 4:35 AM ]
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Galenson wrote: No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. Only Drow players are crazy enough to do that because they have the chance to backstab them later. And they still get to be male at the end of it.

Author:	Noct'uul [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 5:30 AM ]
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I could get on board with this; got a hobgoblin 'war shaman' I'd like to try out. I had the build pegged for another race, but Hobgoblin definitely works

Author:	GreatPigeon [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 6:54 AM ]
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Do it! My hobbo is in. An intelligent warrior type.

Author:	Arcadence [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 7:54 AM ]
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IronAngel wrote: If there is a cleric of a deity not yet featured, you can just use some placeholder deity and request an idol to be added. So I could just fudge in a similarly domained/aligned god and let a DM know about it and I'm ok? Galenson wrote: No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. It'd make for a really interesting character that can influence clan politics...and then once the adventurers come in die really horribly. I'll take the case!...if the Yurtrus thing falls out.

Author:	Galenson [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 9:09 AM ]
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If you used Gruumsh as the base deity, it shouldn't be a problem considering the circumstances. Gruumsh is the patriarch of the entire pantheon and every orcish deity pays fealty to Gruumsh.

Author:	Noct'uul [ Wed, Jan 22 2014, 18:35 PM ]
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Is this happening? I'm finally home & able to play tonight

Author:	Ogrehero [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 14:11 PM ]
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I am interested in this but I have a few questions which I had posted in another thread with a similar goblin/orcish theme. First will this clan eventually be filled with dragon winged gobos who speak perfect yet sardonically inflected common, who spend their days sneering down (up...) at folk at Bendir Dale? Second will the roles and status of races like Ogrillions and Hobgoblins be in keeping with the lore that such creatures have in regards to gobos? I have an mechanically based ogrillion character that is ICly more Ogre than Orc and played as such, that I would love to see in the company of some excellent gobos but not if its going to turn into anything like the first question and/or nothing like the second question

Author:	inprison666 [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 15:19 PM ]
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Ogrehero wrote: I am interested in this but I have a few questions which I had posted in another thread with a similar goblin/orcish theme. First will this clan eventually be filled with dragon winged gobos who speak perfect yet sardonically inflected common, who spend their days sneering down (up...) at folk at Bendir Dale? Second will the roles and status of races like Ogrillions and Hobgoblins be in keeping with the lore that such creatures have in regards to gobos? I have an mechanically based ogrillion character that is ICly more Ogre than Orc and played as such, that I would love to see in the company of some excellent gobos but not if its going to turn into anything like the first question and/or nothing like the second question Well the reason this isnt the other thread is because this group is more orc based than gobo. Hobgoblins and goblins are welcome of course but it isnt a goblin clan. For the winged part, I sure hope the hell not. Aren't there enough dragon disciples? No this is orcish culture at it's finest which is to say savagely evil. By the way, got that devotee of Luthic;)

Author:	Kamina [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 17:07 PM ]
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This clan vs the other tribe, brawls in Kampo's I say!

Author:	Noct'uul [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 17:43 PM ]
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Yeah, I intend to be savagely orcish...if I can ever get back into the game. No wings. Decent language...but not perfect. Permanent blood under my claws. No. Wings.

Author:	Strawberry Stallion [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 18:07 PM ]
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Galenson wrote: No-one will willingly play a female orc whose sole duty is to serve the males. Only Drow players are crazy enough to do that because they have the chance to backstab them later. Wrong. There's at least one at current.

Author:	Neo46 [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 18:48 PM ]
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I'm in, I'll be on tonight if my Internet is back up.

Author:	inprison666 [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 19:33 PM ]
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Kamina wrote: This clan vs the other tribe, brawls in Kampo's I say! Agreed. Winner takes clan.

Author:	Noct'uul [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 22:35 PM ]
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Are 1/2 orcs considered Underdark races? Should I look to start on a certain server?

Author:	GreatPigeon [ Thu, Jan 23 2014, 23:35 PM ]
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If you're asking something like that I recommend you read the wiki entry on half-orcs.