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Xeorsos
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 Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 19:04 PM |
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Joined: 25 Jul 2011
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I noticed recently that when I take a shifter form I don't get my head bonuses in my shifter form. I've scoured the NWN wiki and from what I can find I should *always* get my armor, shield, and helmet (enhancements, not base) for any single form I take.
Is this different on Amia? Or are there certain things that don't transfer? I've got one of those troll skin regen caps and I don't get the regeneration while in wyrmling form.
Thanks in advance, guys.
_________________ Dolan Valehart -=- Gheri Worth
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Ulir
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 19:16 PM |
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Joined: 09 Mar 2009
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That is strange. Helmets should always work. However, I recall testing gear in wyrmling some time back, and none of my items applied regen to the form. On Amia I hear that the Wyrmling merges ALL, not only armor.
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Bravo21
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 19:22 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2008
Location: In the land of liquid sunshine and coffee
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Yes, the helmet should be merging. it is a glitch you need to bring to a DM's attention if it's not. next time you shift, consult your combat log, it should list what has merged and what abilities from your various items have merged as well.
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Thine taste in horrid footwear not withstanding, I did not say that thou were in fact an idiot, I merely implied that such things were self evident.
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corypx
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 20:21 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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I find a alot of new shifters forget that Stats dont stack on shifters, would have to know what form you were using, all the items you had on...ect to know its a bug and not player error.
_________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE) 
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Xeorsos
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 20:29 PM |
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Joined: 25 Jul 2011
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corypx wrote: I find a alot of new shifters forget that Stats dont stack on shifters, would have to know what form you were using, all the items you had on...ect to know its a bug and not player error. Oh, I'm aware. All +AC bonuses become deflection bonuses, and thus you only get the highest version- so I'm not worried about that. I'll have to do some testing, but it's good to know that this is specific to the Wyrmling and not all the shifter forms. Otherwise the shifter really gets boned here on Amia (despite the boosts to the shapes). Now that I'm thinking about it I don't believe my Wyrmling form got any of my gear boosts. It should have gotten everything but my weapon & bracers, but I didn't get any boosts (beyond my natural stats when higher). Strange. _________________ Dolan Valehart -=- Gheri Worth
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Ulir
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 20:39 PM |
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Joined: 09 Mar 2009
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Weapon and bracers merge on Amia too. Weapons with every shape, bracers only with shapes that merge all, such as humanoids as far as I recall.
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corypx
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Posted: Mon, Jun 18 2012, 21:10 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Xeorsos wrote: corypx wrote: I find a alot of new shifters forget that Stats dont stack on shifters, would have to know what form you were using, all the items you had on...ect to know its a bug and not player error. Oh, I'm aware. All +AC bonuses become deflection bonuses, and thus you only get the highest version- so I'm not worried about that. stats, skills and saves also dont stack. so if you have a helm with +2 Str and Armor with +3 Str, all your going to get is a total of 3Str (making the helm useless) Xeorsos wrote: I'll have to do some testing, but it's good to know that this is specific to the Wyrmling and not all the shifter forms. Otherwise the shifter really gets boned here on Amia (despite the boosts to the shapes).
Now that I'm thinking about it I don't believe my Wyrmling form got any of my gear boosts. It should have gotten everything but my weapon & bracers, but I didn't get any boosts (beyond my natural stats when higher). Strange. did all your items slots have something on? make sure you have weapon,shield,armor....ect then everything should merg with no problem. _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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Xeorsos
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Posted: Tue, Jun 19 2012, 3:53 AM |
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Joined: 25 Jul 2011
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corypx wrote: did all your items slots have something on? make sure you have weapon,shield,armor....ect then everything should merg with no problem. Wait, if you don't have something in all your slots you're going to have merging issues? I ditched my weapon & armor when I got my shapes because of the weight and the fact that they were mundane. Also, half of my slots are empty due to being so low level (9). _________________ Dolan Valehart -=- Gheri Worth
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corypx
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Posted: Tue, Jun 19 2012, 5:39 AM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Xeorsos wrote: corypx wrote: did all your items slots have something on? make sure you have weapon,shield,armor....ect then everything should merg with no problem. Wait, if you don't have something in all your slots you're going to have merging issues? I ditched my weapon & armor when I got my shapes because of the weight and the fact that they were mundane. Also, half of my slots are empty due to being so low level (9). it has happened befor where people have had merging problems when they did not have all slots filled, so I assume thats your problem right there. _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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Xeorsos
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Posted: Tue, Jun 19 2012, 23:43 PM |
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Joined: 25 Jul 2011
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corypx wrote: it has happened befor where people have had merging problems when they did not have all slots filled, so I assume thats your problem right there. This resolved my issue. Once I had a weapon and shield all sorts of stuff started transferring. Quick question while I've got the thread open: how is caster level determined for spells gained through shifted forms, like the Rakasha or Goblin Mage? Is it Druid + Shifter = CL, or Druid only, or Shifter only? Knowing would be really helpful. Thanks for the help so far, y'all! _________________ Dolan Valehart -=- Gheri Worth
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corypx
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Posted: Wed, Jun 20 2012, 0:04 AM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Xeorsos wrote: corypx wrote: it has happened befor where people have had merging problems when they did not have all slots filled, so I assume thats your problem right there. This resolved my issue. Once I had a weapon and shield all sorts of stuff started transferring. Quick question while I've got the thread open: how is caster level determined for spells gained through shifted forms, like the Rakasha or Goblin Mage? Is it Druid + Shifter = CL, or Druid only, or Shifter only? Knowing would be really helpful. Thanks for the help so far, y'all! well goblin mage is not a real shifter form as far as I know(code wise) so stuff does not move over and spells are a solid set number so levels dont come into effect. I belive its like a shapechange/polly spell. as for the other forms, it should be druid and shifter in terms for determined caster level on spells. _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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