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psycho
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 8:09 AM |
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Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Alright, my char was hellballed then thrown into a volcano. The only logical IC outcome would be to perma her. Except oocly, I like my char and don't wish her perma'ed. Is it bad RP to want to keep my character? I've been on a server where DM's enforced permakilling. I absolutely see no IC way she could have survived that. Suggestions? Someone mentioned diamonds, a DM, a cleric, a True Ressurection Spell, 24 hours minimum... How does that work? And does that mean I have to wait until all the above conditions are met and can't play my char until then, even if it takes weeks? Thx. PS: And Xio, -that's- why I was busy and kinda ignoring you.  *winks*
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 8:25 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Haha! Holy shit - somebody really took extreme measures here...hehe..hehe
Kudos to the guy who figured out the volcano trick xD
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Charles1810
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 8:26 AM |
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Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Location: Hubbard, Ohio
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Amia you will learn no one ever stays dead. If you personally feel you wish to perma kill him, than that is your right. Though you could come up with some off the wall reasoning for him to not be permed, such as a friend realized he cut your hair after you before you died and brought it to get true ressed.
Exception of course dmevents or when a dm flat out says you are perm dead, for example Cordor Seriousness states perm death is possible.
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Selmak
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 9:23 AM |
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Joined: 17 Dec 2004
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In order for a Resurrection to work on a body part, it needs to be removed after death, not before. True Resurrection doesn't require that, but as mentioned it is rather pricey.
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psycho
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 9:26 AM |
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Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Yeah, but how is my character supposed to get herself rezed if she's -dead-?
I mean, nobody would pay to get Rainelle ressurected, she's an annoying brat.
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Feonir
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 9:31 AM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Location: Lookin at folks like a son-of-a-bitch.
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Your first ever death you goto the fugue plane and the lady tells you now isnt your time. Redo that, icly, Deus Ex Angelica.
If you well and true dont want the pc dead then dont kill it, find a reaosn why she would be alive again and go with it. Fire giant found a hunk of her and it was stolen by an adventurer on its death, which was sold to a necromancer who fucked up a raise dead spell, threw her reanimated bones out, which were brought back by a drunken cleric thinking it was his long lost wives skeleton because it had the same char marks as his dearly departed who was set aflame by some asshole fire elemental.
Tadaa, reason.
_________________  "I'm going to spend all my money on ale and whores." "Okay roll for whores." "That's 1d4 whores right?"
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psycho
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 9:42 AM |
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Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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EDIT: Okay, figured some ridiculous idea and posted in the character stories section. Coming back to life rarely makes sense anyhow....
And on a final note I decided I didn't enjoy the fact I was oocly penalised with all this.
You may lock. I'll rez however I want.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 11:01 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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AHAHAHAH! i loved the story xD
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 12:48 PM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Location: Denmark
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raise dead requirest most of the body
ressurect only a fraction of the body like blood or a hair or such
true ressution only requres that the person you are raising is actually dead..and havnt been so for more than level x years (i think)
you got many options, many go with that they have left a sample of thier blood with a cleric in the even they dont show up for some time
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Amarice-Elaraliel
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 13:07 PM |
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Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Raise dead does not require "most of the body" buy requires the body to be intact.
"While the spell closes mortal wounds and repairs lethal damage of most kinds, the body of the creature to be raised must be whole. Otherwise, missing parts are still missing when the creature is brought back to life."
For resurrection you need just some part of the body -after- it died.
"The condition of the remains is not a factor. So long as some small portion of the creature’s body still exists, it can be resurrected, but the portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death. (The remains of a creature hit by a disintegrate spell count as a small portion of its body.) The creature can have been dead no longer than 10 years per caster level."
For true resurrection you need no part of the body and the creature can be dead for a long time. On Amia this requires DM supervision and the spell components. (diamonds of at least 20.000 gold worth and holy water. I think it was once said that would be 10 or 11 diamonds on Amia.
"This spell functions like raise dead, except that you can resurrect a creature that has been dead for as long as 10 years per caster level. This spell can even bring back creatures whose bodies have been destroyed, provided that you unambiguously identify the deceased in some fashion (reciting the deceased’s time and place of birth or death is the most common method)."
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 13:36 PM |
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Joined: 26 May 2010
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Ironically I was going to ask about something like this. I had heard that it was accepted to, after several RL days, respawn a char that should be perma'ed if you don't want them to be perma'ed (outside of a DM saying 'They are not coming back'). From what Feo says, sound like this is okay, plus I don't think it's allowed to force someone to perma their char.
_________________ Whomst've'll'd'mn't I play: Salema Nefahri :: A penny for your thots Zrae'a'stra'fryn :: That which nightmares are made of Khasir :: From the East a storm is coming
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Blink
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 16:19 PM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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Seriously Psycho. I LOL'd at the story!
_________________ Former account: Wibi
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psycho
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 17:54 PM |
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Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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I'm all for realism and staying in character.
At the same time, I think some player's chars to have the ooc power to perma others is just wrong.
Not saying the player whose character threw Rain in the volcano did that, not at all! It was roleplayed, and IC. Th player was nice oocly and didn't ask me to perma her.
But i'm not forced to play along with the story and destroy my char. If I accepted that, wouldn't I be accepting some sort of ooc Godemoting or something for a lack of better term?
And for the story, it proves the point that some things don't have to be resolved ICly sometimes when it risks taking the fun from someone else.
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Fierene Havenstar
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2011, 18:54 PM |
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Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Location: Hopping around the space time continum
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I applaud you for taking the time to not only post on the forums but find a really wonderful way to ICly explain the reappearance of your character!
The posting was fabulous, entertaining and looked to go with your characters roguish ways. Woot!
_________________ Ari'aerath Dlues'athsha ~ Silver Singer with the Bow of the Sun Clarette Feohn ~ Magic is Art. Victoria Marrs ~ "I have an herb for that."
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Silent2001
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Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 0:47 AM |
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Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdomshire
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CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!
_________________ <3 MarynWe are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones.
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mirvala-
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Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 2:22 AM |
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Joined: 25 May 2011 Location: Canada, Qc (EST, GMT -5)
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For True Resurection you also need a complete level worth of exp taken off the caster. (Remember that everyone rolls 20 one day or the other  )
_________________ login:mirvala Em'rae d'Ussen d'Vhid No mercy for the kivvil aka AgentOfLyumis
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psycho
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Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 2:40 AM |
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Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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Some of us play this game casually, as a form of entertainment and don't have Masters Degress in D&D Lore.
I like playing badminton, Going out with friends. Spending time with my family. My job, helping troubled teens. The color blue. Shopping.
Oh! And playing Nwn.
I may not have a hundred dreamcoins, but I don't need to bring realism to "the ultimate level" nor do I wish to.
It's just a -game-
Locking a character for up to 24 RL hours in a jail cell ICly? That works for me.
Permadeath?
Waiting a few days, figuring out a complex IC method involving several players, DM's etc....( aka waste of other's time?) for days or weeks before I can play my char?
Nah, I wanna have fun too.
As I've made up my mind, DM's can lock the topic if they wish as there's not really any more I've got to ask or say.
Oh and for the story, thanks. Just something I really botched and wrote in 5-10 minutes and shows how "important" it was to me lol.
Unless some wish to debate permadeath in general?...
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 5:31 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Don't cop a superiority complex.
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