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linlan
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Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2011, 19:51 PM |
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Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: South of Grumdek Murr
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A quick reminder to those of you running NwN on a mac.
The soon-to-be-released Mac OS X Lion (10.7) does NOT support Rosetta, and will therefore NOT run any PowerPC application. Neverwinter Night is one of those.
If you intend to upgrade to Lion, make sure you have enough space on hard drive to keep a bootable partition with Snow Leopard.
There are many different ways to check if your other favorite applications will work. Easiest is to CMD-I (read info) on your app icon and check if type is set to "Application (PowerPC)". If yes, then you're doomed, unfortunately.
Linlan
_________________ Nana Anvilmar - Slower Talking, Faster Running Lester, Jester, Chandler, Alchemister ! Pauris Sennemen de Laelith - Merchant (currently in Suzail, Cormyr) Metzlitemoctzin - Payit slave, now freed from Silent's sadostyle of plotting !
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Feonir
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Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2011, 21:39 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Location: Lookin at folks like a son-of-a-bitch.
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Simple Solution: Buy a Windows OS.
_________________  "I'm going to spend all my money on ale and whores." "Okay roll for whores." "That's 1d4 whores right?"
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ZoltanTheRed
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Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 4:26 AM |
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Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Location: USA
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Feonir wrote: Simple Solution: Buy a Windows OS. Trollololololollolololol No. Anyways, this is a pretty bad thing for mac users  . Thankfully I've long since been playing NWN on the PC :\
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 4:28 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Silly silly Apple...
Thank you for putting the word out.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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DustSpray101
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Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 5:03 AM |
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Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Location: Night Vale
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Actually, to its credit, Apple has created what has become perhaps the most stable running platform for Windows. It's what I do and I will swear by it!
_________________ Eli Hodgewall <{/,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~X Sven <=={o===========> Qeelak \ | / ,
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Silvarus
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Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:45 AM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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The Windows version of NWN should just run fine on Lion with Wine or something, and you can always put a linux partition on an USB stick with the Linux version. Has the additional bonus of being awesome and allowing you to haul NWN around between any number of computers. Here is how you run pretty much all interesting Windows games on any *NIX-like system: http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/Installing
_________________ Gagis Silvarna, the Robocop with wings who shoots lasers from his fingertips Lily Havthorn, the Waukeenar Silwe, the elf
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Jan
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Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 19:34 PM |
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Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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DustSpray101 wrote: Actually, to its credit, Apple has created what has become perhaps the most stable running platform for Windows. It's what I do and I will swear by it! Hardly. Windows through Bootcamp on a Mac requires different drivers which (rarely) are made available by Apple and need to be installed from within OS X, thereby hindering upgrades to address issues with older versions. It's inherently unstable and less good. Windows 7 on a PC handled by someone who isn't a complete idiot is rock solid. It's one of those silly marketing lies Apple fans tend to spread. FYI I was an Apple user until half-way through 10.5.
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ZoltanTheRed
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Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 20:24 PM |
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Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Location: USA
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Jan wrote: DustSpray101 wrote: Actually, to its credit, Apple has created what has become perhaps the most stable running platform for Windows. It's what I do and I will swear by it! Hardly. Windows through Bootcamp on a Mac requires different drivers which (rarely) are made available by Apple and need to be installed from within OS X, thereby hindering upgrades to address issues with older versions. It's inherently unstable and less good. Windows 7 on a PC handled by someone who isn't a complete idiot is rock solid. It's one of those silly marketing lies Apple fans tend to spread. FYI I was an Apple user until half-way through 10.5. Lets not turn a simple warning thread into some gay ass Mac Vs PC argument. 
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 20:29 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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It was going to be that no matter what!
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 22:19 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Linux has its uses, Windows has it's uses, Mac has its uses.
All operating systems have their uses, and have things they are best at. You use the one you want given what you wish to do.
_________________ I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Jan
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Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 22:55 PM |
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Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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All I ever said was that Macs aren't better at running Windows than a PC given the special drivers requirement.
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What the Moon Brings
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Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 1:37 AM |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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I installed XP Pro on my MacBook Pro.. I use OS X for 99% of everything I need, and Windows for when I wanna play games. I can't imagine trying to play NWN under Rosetta.
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What the Moon Brings
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Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 1:40 AM |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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Jan wrote: All I ever said was that Macs aren't better at running Windows than a PC given the special drivers requirement. The only special drivers are for the current generation MacBook Pro when using Windows XP. nVidia doesn't make XP drivers for the 320M, but Apple does. If you're using Windows 7, you don't need anything special. The only thing Apple provides on the DVD is a control panel for managing Boot Camp. You don't even really need that because you can just hold down the Option (Alt) key at boot and select which OS you want to run.
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linlan
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Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 7:54 AM |
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Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: South of Grumdek Murr
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What the Moon Brings wrote: I can't imagine trying to play NWN under Rosetta. That' seamless like any PowerPc app on SnowLeopard of course and works like a charm, except you can't run the toolset (not provided on Mac version of the game). I tried installing a (borrowed) PC version with both CrossOver and CrossOver games... and rolled a 1.
_________________ Nana Anvilmar - Slower Talking, Faster Running Lester, Jester, Chandler, Alchemister ! Pauris Sennemen de Laelith - Merchant (currently in Suzail, Cormyr) Metzlitemoctzin - Payit slave, now freed from Silent's sadostyle of plotting !
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Maias227
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Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 17:10 PM |
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Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Location: Denmark (GMT+1)
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Selvec Darkon wrote: Linux has its uses, Windows has it's uses, Mac has its uses.
All operating systems have their uses, and have things they are best at. You use the one you want given what you wish to do. *coughs* Yeah linux serves primarily as a penguin awareness program.
_________________ ...Hereof follows that the social contract is only beneficial as long as all have something and none have too much...
- Rousseau Book 1 Chapter 9 in "The Social Contract"
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What the Moon Brings
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Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 22:24 PM |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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linlan wrote: What the Moon Brings wrote: I can't imagine trying to play NWN under Rosetta. That' seamless like any PowerPc app on SnowLeopard of course and works like a charm, except you can't run the toolset (not provided on Mac version of the game). I tried installing a (borrowed) PC version with both CrossOver and CrossOver games... and rolled a 1. I'd rather use the native Windows version. Even with integrated Intel graphics, I can run the game at 1920x1200 with max settings. I gave up on CrossOver or Virtual Machines. CrossOver is hit and miss (usually miss) and VMs still can't do 3D acceleration well enough. I found it was easier just to buy an OEM XP or Windows 7 and avoid the headaches. Or if you're morally flexible, just grab a Windows serial number so conveniently displayed on the case of any PC at your local computer store. I find it hilarious that companies actually do that.
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Jan
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Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2011, 23:23 PM |
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Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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What the Moon Brings wrote: Or if you're morally flexible, just grab a Windows serial number so conveniently displayed on the case of any PC at your local computer store. Good luck activating that KMS serial at home. 
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Feonir
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Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2011, 23:24 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Location: Lookin at folks like a son-of-a-bitch.
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Can just bypass the activation all together 9 times out of 10.
_________________  "I'm going to spend all my money on ale and whores." "Okay roll for whores." "That's 1d4 whores right?"
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