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chefwudan
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 Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 1:15 AM |
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Location: Miami, FL
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Due to some recent RP and my lack of knowledge regarding things D&D, I pose a series of questions hoping to get better clarity in its lore.  does a Shadow Dancer draw his powers from the Shadow Plain or the Shadow Weave. if so, how much of a connection I've also read that "Shar holds power over all who use the Shadow Weave" (from Shar - Forgetten Realms wiki page). is this true and/or does it apply to SD's as well?
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Gers
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 1:25 AM |
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Location: Kentucky, USA
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SDs draw their power from the shadow plane, not the shadow weave. Shar doesn't have SDs as part of her portfolio, so I don't think she has any real power over them.
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Bravo21
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 1:31 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2008
Location: In the land of liquid sunshine and coffee
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The plane of Shadow and the ShadowWeave are two very different things.
The Plane of Shadow is much like the elemental planes, a place composed of that particular element, in this case shadow. The ShadowWeave is a an opposing magical force created by Shar to emulate the same effects as Mystra's Weave. It works in a similar fashion to the Weave, yet like Shar is darker in aspect.
An SD draws their power through training and manipulation of shadows. But unless they are a devout of Shar, none of their power comes from the ShadowWeave. And yes, everyone who uses the Shadowweave serves Shar, as it is a method to siphon power from Mystra.
So no. SD's do not typically use the shadowWeave, unless they also serve Shar, and cast arcane or divine spells from the ShadowWeave.
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Mahtan
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 1:36 AM |
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Joined: 28 May 2006
Location: That place with the green grass and that blue sky.
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I thought I answered this for you?
A Sharran Shadowdancers only connection to Shar is their faith, nothing else. If it was a Shadow Weave user multiclassing as a SD then technically the SD has connection to the Shadow Weave but still all SD powers are Shadow Plane. But just a plain Shar worshiping SD can not ask her for more SD power, since she doesn't give that.
Everything that has the word "Shadow" in it is not connected. Most, but not all.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 3:16 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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If any god could claim power over the Shadowplane it would be Mask, as his domain is Shadow. Probably why he has a Temple in Shadowscape.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 3:25 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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In any case, Maht is right.
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chefwudan
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 3:39 AM |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2006
Location: Miami, FL
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Ok, so now I know the Shadow Weave and the Shadow Plain are two different things entirely and that Shar created the Weave and NOT the Plain itself. And yes, thanks as always Mahtan.. and you you other guys 
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Mahtan
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 4:45 AM |
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Joined: 28 May 2006
Location: That place with the green grass and that blue sky.
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Glad to help, at first I thought I forgot if I answered you or not or if it was someone else.  Also Shar and Mask do both have domain within the Shadow Plane, but for Amia, due to events in the past and such, Mask is the dominate control of the Shadow Plane stuff in our areas. Not to say that Sharran's can't change that or anything. 
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 4:59 AM |
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
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This would have been cooler to find out IC! Alas.
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The Great Equalizer
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 5:14 AM |
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Joined: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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...alack...
oh, ah, woe is me, that all the interjections of a sufferer do not suffice to suppress the wrath of an illbred person.
It had to be done.
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Gunz
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 5:49 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Yep, as has been said, the Shadowdancer isn't a divine class. It has zero connection to any god. Although Mask holds the portfolio of Shadow he does not control or rule over Shadowdancers. Shar even less so. And yeah, it doesn't use the Shadow Weave at all, it uses the Shadow Plane directly.
In any case, I'd fold to most things Mahtan says about SD's, since he's kinda the expert in that. The most knowledgeable at it that I know of on Amia, that's for sure.
It is true that Shar rules over the Shadow Weave though, yes. A total rule over the Shadow Weave. However, that's irrelevant to the Shadowdancer.
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 6:17 AM |
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Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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How about Assassins?
Are they considered arcane spellcasters, subject to spell failure?
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PaladinOfSune
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 6:17 AM |
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: England, UK
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They are.
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 14:18 PM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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There's arcane spellfailure on all the spell like abilities they can obtain from widgets.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 20:29 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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It's an awesome song.
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