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A long while ago now, a good player and on and off friend of mine Soundofstream set up a group that was to engender interest in rogue and thieve guild like RP. Its members were largely based around GMT afternoon and evenings but incorporated a few from elsewhere's.

Some of those players left or moved onto other projects and some have stayed quiet in the background. One of my own characters was heavily involved in the Night Mask group and although I have had several PM's regarding the idea I am throwing this open to a larger audience. For the moment I would appreciate PM's only from those people who might be interested in such an endeavour.

For those who are not overly familiar with them...

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Masks_%28guild%29

For those who have contacted me previously by PM, I would appreciate the follow up if you would still be interested in pursuing this.

PM Sent

Would you PM me, maybe, when you get things started? The faction had some RP going with the Cordor Guard that sort of sadly died off when the Night Masks did. Players stopped playing and such, and left us hanging.

Burningoutbright wrote:

Would you PM me, maybe, when you get things started? The faction had some RP going with the Cordor Guard that sort of sadly died off when the Night Masks did. Players stopped playing and such, and left us hanging.

Will do. Its a promise I left to a friend to keep the home fires burning, I would feel better to see it fullfilled even if my only job is to end up handing over the reigns

Very_Svensk wrote:

PM Sent

Reply sent, thankyou for your interest so far

Interesting..

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The Night Masks is a criminal organization that is based in the city of Westgate.

Seems like you should pick a new name?

Yep. They are region specific. Just like in Selgaunt they are the Night Knives

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Thieves

Fix'd? >>

Edit; and I think the Night Knives are seperate from the Night Mask's if I'm not mistaken.

Moonshae Pink Panthers?

TormakSaber wrote:

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The Night Masks is a criminal organization that is based in the city of Westgate.

Seems like you should pick a new name?

Nope, sorry no can do. If you knew the back history of the group then you would know just why they have the umbrella name for them.

Even if I could I would not be in any rush to change their name as it would be disrespectful to the originator of the group. Her reasons for the name and the RP that was setup behind their inception into Amia was good enough for me at the time.

Unless you are -telling- us we need to have a new name?

I guess the point was that you're not the canon faction, so it seems somewhat silly to pretend to be. I know there have been players on Amia who really thought, OOC, that their PC was part of a canon faction that in reality had no IC legitimacy. I guess this is fine as long as the deception is IC, but it seems iffy when the players imply this OOC, as well.

There are no clear rules about canon factions on Amia, though. None that I know of, at least. It's a very gray area.

Well the subject of the name is open to a ruling by the DM team if they would like to give one. However according to Sound DM's have not have issued with the name in the past when it was being used.

A ruling now would be more timely than a few months down the road when everyone has gotten used to it.

Athyonn Ursidae wrote:

Burningoutbright wrote:

Would you PM me, maybe, when you get things started? The faction had some RP going with the Cordor Guard that sort of sadly died off when the Night Masks did. Players stopped playing and such, and left us hanging.

Will do. Its a promise I left to a friend to keep the home fires burning, I would feel better to see it fullfilled even if my only job is to end up handing over the reigns

Trust me. You intend to give the reigns of a faction over, and it NEVER HAPPENS! You'll be trapped FOREVER....EVER!

*Goes back to crying in the Order of the Flaming Blade forum*

@Irons Comment:

I had that very issue when I tried to originally establish a Shadow Thief presence in Amia. It can be...frustrating. What I got told when I tried to establish the Shadow Thieves a few years back, was that I could not be an offical member of the group, and if any NPC member was to come to the isle they would not recognise me as a member. Our group would infact just be pretenders claiming to be Shadow Thieves. I believe this was the case with the Red Wizards faction to. They originally said they where Thayvians, and where told they could not do so. Thus it was used IC.

So I imagine the same thing would apply here. You can say your a group called the Night Masks. But you aren't actually offically Night Masks. Not unless its proclaimed such by the DM team.

Thankyou Selvec for those words. It makes my own make a little more sense.

I only have Sounds words for this, but there were DM's working with her with regards to this, unfortunatly I dont know who, or even if they are still active. But ooc and ic it was told to me that they were an off shoot of the Night Masks in reality, even to the extent that NPC agents came to see her character.

Again I dont know how much of this the DM team has access to themselves or if they have any records of such to support such, all I have is what Sound passed on to me. She ran the faction like a -real- spymaster

As for the group and it was only ever a group not a faction, its reigns and so forth, there has been more than enough interest in it for me to do something about the threads that have been left lose and weave it into a new fabric.

If the DM's rule that the name is a no go then fortunatly there is an easy way to 'write' around that fact in so much that as my character is one of the last surviving original members of the group and rather living it up of late then anything that was to grow from her again, -could- come from a different name.
As for why I dont do that in the first place and make this easier on all concerned, well I feel an obligation to Sound, it was her idea and creativity and effort that pulled this together. Apparently her efforts and name had support behind the scenes. I am loathe to just let go of that without a firm ruling from the team.

The big question is - How do you get contact with a group that doesn't exist? From an IC Perspective, That has always intreagued me; And upset me.

Dum dum DUUUM!

A mixture of clever thinking, detective work, and sometimes, the unexpected.

Firstly, what would your character know about them ICly. Secondly, would they be the sort to be readily contacted.

I have got to confess I am staggered by the sheer number of quality responses from out there. Looks like this is going to go afterall, the continued use of the name will be on hiatus until I hear something solid back from the team.

Very_Svensk wrote:

The big question is - How do you get contact with a group that doesn't exist? From an IC Perspective, That has always intreagued me; And upset me.

Dum dum DUUUM!

You don't contact them, they contact you.

I didn't mean you'd have to change your name. The DMs aren't going to rule that either, I wager. You can call yourself whatever you want. The point was that being original might be better, because you're not the real Night Masks in any case. I doubt Sound minds if your PCs want to change the name IC to something more descriptive and clear.

Technically, no one on Amia is leading any branch of a canon faction unless a DM has said so. You'd be dictating NPC actions in saying you were accepted into the group and authorized to start your own branch, after all. In practice, this isn't quite as severe and being part of most canon factions has always been fair game in your background. But you obviously can't just decide that your no-name PC will represent the Iron Throne or the Harpers on Amia, and it's in any case cooler to coordinate a plot with the DMs.

So that's why I figured you might want to either reconsider your supposed connection to the Night Masks, or clear it up with the team. But you do whatever suits you best, of course.

IronAngel wrote:

I didn't mean you'd have to change your name. The DMs aren't going to rule that either, I wager. You can call yourself whatever you want. The point was that being original might be better, because you're not the real Night Masks in any case. I doubt Sound minds if your PCs want to change the name IC to something more descriptive and clear.

Technically, no one on Amia is leading any branch of a canon faction unless a DM has said so. You'd be dictating NPC actions in saying you were accepted into the group and authorized to start your own branch, after all. In practice, this isn't quite as severe and being part of most canon factions has always been fair game in your background. But you obviously can't just decide that your no-name PC will represent the Iron Throne or the Harpers on Amia, and it's in any case cooler to coordinate a plot with the DMs.

So that's why I figured you might want to either reconsider your supposed connection to the Night Masks, or clear it up with the team. But you do whatever suits you best, of course.

If it was my connection it would be a lot easier in truth, but its not. I am piecing together tidbits that were left with me and trying to meld them together. At this stage where it may or may not rise from the ashes then 'altering; the name might be far easier from this point than leaving it until some time in the future.

Well: if your PC didn't have the connection to the Night Masks, why would he/she feel compelled to carry on the tradition of one rumored Night Mask associate who's no longer around? Just some food for thought, I have nothing to do with this business.

But the input is appreciated none the less... and in answer to that Talana (Sounds character at the time) was always a good mix of charismatic leadership and instiling fear for control. From an IC point -my- character would be loathe to simply shrug that last connection off... but then again she can be one arrogant woman when she wants to be.

What ever happened to Sound, anyways? She had some cool characters.

Went to Arelith.

*Reacts with anger*

I know she left, I know not the reasons for her leaving but that is her own private buisness.

To date I have had no less than fourteen confirmed reports of interest. But for the moment work is calling me and I can start setting to this once I get back hopefully.

Other enquiries are of course welcome.

Also...

Burningoutbright wrote:

Would you PM me, maybe, when you get things started? The faction had some RP going with the Cordor Guard that sort of sadly died off when the Night Masks did. Players stopped playing and such, and left us hanging.

PM Sent

I sent a PM yesterday, forgot to post it here

PM's Sent to all concerned.

Why Night Masks, if you don't mind me asking? I have a character that would be absolutely perfect for this, in fact my main character for the time being. However, wouldn't it make more sense to make an original faction similar the Night Masks except founded in Cordor, here and now?

An organization like Night Masks trying to secretly take control of Cordor with opportunity for something more original would be GREAT.

Please send me a PM with details, if you could.

In answer, it is (or was) the Night Masks because that is what its original founder wanted them to based on, an idea of this group with ties to the mainland, beyond that you would need to talk to its originator. The Night Masks as they were never had interest for specific control over areas at any rate.

As things are now... well you would have to try and find out for yourself. To give more would be to spoil the fun of finding out. There are those out there who know a few things, you just have to find them.

Well, I only say that because the RP would be a lot more fun if it were in Westgate, the city that was apparently their main interest, judging from the wiki.

That being said, even with a DM saying that the faction was official, then what would their business be in Amia if not to spread their control? I'm just posing the question hypothetically, because it just seems to me that a faction trying to take over some city on our server (which is the role the Night Masks play in Westgate in my understanding) sounds like great fun.

I don't have any faction RP with the character I mentioned, so please PM me whatever information you PM'd the others :]

Apologies for not being at the meeting. I'm on holiday so my avaliable timezones are rather odd.

There will be many more meetings and lots of little happenings at times I am trying my best to spread all over the place. Just keep an eye on the forums for the hints

*HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT!!!111!oneone eleven*

You are so subtle Svensk, did I ever tell you its one of the many similar qualities I admire about you?

Btw; I need to revoke my last statement. Read Below

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The big question is - How do you get contact with a group that doesn't exist? From an IC Perspective, That has always intreagued me; And upset me.

Because its; Surprisingly, Easy to get into contact. People are 'SO' Chatty!

Getting in contact -can- be easy, getting away again and perhaps staying chatty, or even alive afterwards can be more difficult. Being a theif or even associated to, is probably one of the hardest balancing acts to pull of on Amia with needing to avoid being metagamed, finding targets and obey the PvP rules.
Still... we try

Dum Dum Dum DUUUUM!

Due to a rapid decrease in my health of late and other personal issues I am finding it almost impossible to find time for Amia right now. *sighs* I am hoping with time my situation will imporve, but until that time comes I am going to be absent from IG a lot.

However...

I am attempting to make arrangements IG for everyone who has already been involved with my character over the last month or so. Please bear with me whilst I try and finalise a few things. I know many of you have been trying to contact me of late with your own updates and asking me for the same. My sincerest apologies for all of those of you who I have not been able to get back to personally.
Assuming my plans work out you can expect all of your characters to hear something within the next week I hope.

Once more.. my apologies.

// Take care of you and get well soon.

Get better and good luck.

Typical British. Getting sick and using it as a reason to be lazy :roll:

On a serious side however, hope you get better and come back soon.

I am back and hopefully a little better than I was

Athyonn Ursidae wrote:

I am back and hopefully a little better than I was

Welcome back *waves*

look forward to more RP there are now 3 rouge factions fighting for power >.<

The more the merrier says I.

And the more my Law minded Paladin can crush with his steely resolve.

MoshingChris wrote:

And the more my Law minded Paladin can crush with his steely resolve.

My Paladin doesn't believe in detecting evil.

ROFL Chris... damn but I needed a good laugh this morning.

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