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Here I go again about Druids. OK. Now I've looked up a few things, read about Kossuth and such, but I need a bit of help here.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Kossuth

Druids can be followers of Kossuth, and as an elemental deity it makes sense. What I need help with is HOW to act it out a bit. Fire is a pretty destructive force, so I'm just wondering, anyone have any ideas or such I could use to play an elemental druid?

Oh well ... There's always the aspect of 'Rebirth'. Fire is both a destructive force, Yet also the force that creates life.

The sun?
Volcanoes and volcanic ash?
Forest fires and the plants that grow afterwards?
There's insects that can only come out after a forest fire, for instance?
Heat to survive in cold environments?
Cooking fire and awesome food!

Very_Svensk wrote:

Oh well ... There's always the aspect of 'Rebirth'. Fire is both a destructive force, Yet also the force that creates life.

The sun?
Volcanoes and volcanic ash?
Forest fires and the plants that grow afterwards?
There's insects that can only come out after a forest fire, for instance?
Heat to survive in cold environments?
Cooking fire and awesome food!

Yes, I see what you're saying. But what I wonder is....I get my spells from Kossuth, yet what Druidic principles would I still follow? Obviously death to undead (Ha), but possibly reading your post a bit I think I have an idea of how to do this.

*And thus, he strode up to the sickened land and gazed out towards the rotting mass. He knew what had to be done, and how to do it. Thus he let go off his staff and lifted his arms towards the sky in a prayer.*

-"Lord. Oh Mighty keeper of the flames.
I see this sickening bog and i see the disease and femine it causes to the lands and nearby population, I see how it slowly consumes the lives of innocent people and their dreams.
So in your name, I shall once and for all cleanse the reeking death, and turn it into new.
A rebirth, a restart, Let life flourish once more after this cataclysm!

*Casts firestorm!*

I like the sound of this.

Especially since occasional forest fires really are important to ecosystems.

Pretty much. Also, if you are into the whole 'eco' terrorist thing, fire tends to be usefull in taking down a logging camp. Might I suggest reading up on Kossuthian ideologies though.

You filthy heretic..

Volcano->eruption->ash cloud covering the sun->colder climate

Kosuth fuels Auril's might!

Back on topic, for instance plant life grows great on burned down forests especialy the minerals that form in the ash.
And main thing, balance has two sides, creation and destruction they go hand in hand. there is a horrible amount of milikie druids about and not even half that of "destructive" deities.

DustSpray101 wrote:

Pretty much. Also, if you are into the whole 'eco' terrorist thing, fire tends to be usefull in taking down a logging camp. Might I suggest reading up on Kossuthian ideologies though.

That's a viewpoint i share! Burn down the loggers!

phalanxyrian wrote:

You filthy heretic..

Volcano->eruption->ash cloud covering the sun->colder climate

Kosuth fuels Auril's might!

Back on topic, for instance plant life grows great on burned down forests especialy the minerals that form in the ash.
And main thing, balance has two sides, creation and destruction they go hand in hand. there is a horrible amount of milikie druids about and not even half that of "destructive" deities.

Well, the Sea level has been rising as of late, A mini-Ice age wouldn't hurt to bring down the sea level, Right?

Fire is no more destructive than any of the other elements. Air causes tornadoes and hurricanes, Earth provides for earthquakes and mudslides, and Water creates floods that sweep away whole villages.

Each element has it's "destructive" side. But in truth, there are no sides. Water is both a nourisher and drowner. Earth is both bounty and dearth. Air is both refreshing and eroding. Such is the case with Fire. Yes it burns, but as has been said, it makes sure nutrients get recycled. This may be the reason Druids have to be Neutral in one respect or another: they have to see both sides of the coin.

It could be argued that Fire is the only thing keeping the whole system in check. Without Fire and heat, the wind would not blow. Air would become stagnant. Water would never evaporate. It would never rain again and the water that is present would become fetid from not flowing. There would be no forest fires. Nothing new on the earth would grow. The things that are already growing would continue to do so until they had used up all the nutrients of the soil, and eventually die, leaving nothing but a wasteland where nothing can be planted. Earth would only exist as a scape of nothingness, even more barren than the most desolate desert.

And Lore Thread, if you can manage it next time, there was a significant discussion about Druids in general a while back.

Keep away from the Forgotten Realms Wiki, it's garbage.

http://www.nj-pbem.com/data/Gods/humangods/Kossuth.htm

That's the best you'll likely find on a web page.

Fire isn't all about destruction. And although it's arguably the most dangerous of the 4 classic elements, certainly has it's non-destructive sides. But that's really all I'll say.

I feel dirty elaborating too much on the subject since you should really try to go with what you know. If people tell you things and you follow them without understanding it, you create a hallow shell of a PC that doesn't know crap about what he claims to believe, because the truth would be that you as a player don't understand it either.

There's nothing wrong with a hallow and blind PC, if that's what you're going for, mind. But you should really only be doing what you know or you put yourself in some very awkward positions ICly.

Do some research on fire, do some brain storming. The forum won't be here to bail you out when you're in game and don't know what to say or do OOCly. Or better yet, why not make a character that is learning and have the PC grow ICly with help from other PC's? Have some fun with it.

Well I think I got the character down now. But yeah, I feel like sometimes theres a lack of diversity to some characters, and ideas. Of course I usually think of an innovative way to do it, and then never follow it through, or make a mistake and just leave what I was doing. This one though I think I have a idea worth following, especially with some of everyones ideas on here. As for the FGW, I can't stay away, and always look on it while formulating any plans, kinda hooked on it.

Be prepared to have wrong information then. The FR Wiki is packed full of 4th edition crap -- which means it means nothing here on Amia -- and outright made up nonsense.

Just look at the Amia Wiki?

I Look At Both. And yes I know the FRW is 4th addition. Look at it anyway, mostly if there is information I'm missing from the Amia wiki.

But the information in the FR wiki may be just plain wrong when compared to 3e, is the thing. If you find there's something unanswered, you're better off asking your questions in the Lore thread than reading material of pretty much a completely different setting.

The very first few sentences in the FR wiki on Druids hold a fallacy when compared to Amia.

Quote:

A druid is a versatile and often heroic character, capable in both combat and casting evocations. Druids obtain these primal powers from being at one with nature or from one of several patrons of the wild, often gods or powerful nature spirits

On Amia, all druids must gain power from a divine patron, not "being at one" with nature.

Again. Lore Thread. Use it. Else you're just setting yourself up with incorrect information.

Yeah, I'll Try I Guess.

Another site to look up that holds tonnes of information strictly BEFORE 4th Edition is realmshelp.net -- Good stuff on there.

The Peacock wrote:

Another site to look up that holds tonnes of information strictly BEFORE 4th Edition is realmshelp.net -- Good stuff on there.

You better post link - .. . Wait, you did!

phalanxyrian wrote:

You filthy heretic..

Volcano->eruption->ash cloud covering the sun->colder climate

Kosuth fuels Auril's might!

Pyrrhic Victory. Besides, Auril isn't a primordial (despite what players may think.) so she doesn't get to be the enemy she wants so badly to believe she is. Ice melts under fire, after all. It is the water Kossuthians rage against.

DustSpray101 wrote:

phalanxyrian wrote:

You filthy heretic..

Volcano->eruption->ash cloud covering the sun->colder climate

Kosuth fuels Auril's might!

Pyrrhic Victory. Besides, Auril isn't a primordial (despite what players may think.) so she doesn't get to be the enemy she wants so badly to believe she is. Ice melts under fire, after all. It is the water Kossuthians rage against.

Say that to a bucket of sub-cooled nitrogen!

Look at Auril's Divine standing see that? Intermediate? Weak. :lol:

Just you wait.. *taps his fingers while sitting in a shady corner*

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