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So! I'm considering starting a group of Dragon-hunters ;P Y'know.. they'll be like whalers except they hunt dragons and dragonbloods for sport.

First, get DM's to let 9+ lvs RDD change your racial type to Dragon. >_>

I dislike the look of the wings, so I will never play one. Tiny wings on the back of a humanoid body just looks odd to me. The idea of flight with tiny wings like that is also silly. The only characters I think look decent as part dragon, are the ones with their skin color changed.

Thats true. Not everyone is motivated by Wings. Some are motivated by those STR bonuses xD.
I'd like to see how many RDD characters stuck around if the STR bonuses were removed and replaced with other dragon-like features.

I'd like to point out that none of you are half-dragon without DM approval. Far as I know, Dwagins the only one who has ever gotten DM approval.

I really don't see what the big deal is...Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
...I'll let you chew on whether I truly believe that.. or if I am just being wry.

As an aside: I'll also note that Beowulf died to his wounds inflicted by the dragon, and his best blow broke his sword on the dragon, merely wounding it, Rosey-cheeks!

In regards to the wings, technically they are small for the humanoid body. Without any magic to support them, Dragon Disciples would probably only be able to fly for a limited time. ... Exactly how the widgets work

Wings (Ex)

At 9th level, a dragon disciple grows a set of draconic wings. He may now fly at a speed equal to his normal land speed, with average maneuverability.

You think those wings are small? >.> You should see RDD wings on a fat half orc model then come back to me.

There's also too many charisma 20 gorgeous perfect breasted elf women but you don't see anyone complaining about that.

Stop daydreaming about playing with the food, Denti.

TormakSaber wrote:

Handle it IC.

Yeah right. IC. Baahahah.

Also, there's at least (I believe) four other halfs, fjook's, elmmaster's, and Deemer's, not counting Rras and Jordis.

If you don't like all the dragonkin, don't play one. Problem solved.

I'm more bothered by the lesbian elves who stand around Cordor wearing no pants and do nothing but emote *poke* and *giggle*. At least the dragons are trying.

Author:	Rosencrantz [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:14 PM ]
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It's like they're the new Genasi! There's so bloody many of them! I feel like every fourth person I see on the surface is dragonblooded in some way.. So! I'm considering starting a group of Dragon-hunters ;P Y'know.. they'll be like whalers except they hunt dragons and dragonbloods for sport. Am I the only one who thinks there's a Draconic overload going on?

Author:	hendrack [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:22 PM ]
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You come 5 years late for this.

Author:	Pony [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:23 PM ]
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They got quite a lobby now.

Author:	hircine [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:40 PM ]
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My main character is a dragonkin, I admit. Still, not -all- of us are motivated by "Ooooh, wings!" I'm not sure if there was an ounce of "Hmmm.. Maaaaybe," when you said about dragon hunters, but surely there's an order of some sort that hunts down dragons and dragonkin? Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea, the dragonkin oh-so rarely team up, and in my experience there's a lot of hostility between the different coloured chromatic dragons. It'd be like Braveheart >:D

Author:	Rosencrantz [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:48 PM ]
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Well.. It's simple logic, really.. When a species is introduced into an ecosystem and has no natural predators they expand to a painfully large extent.. And then you introduce a new species that eats them, see! So then everything is normal for a few years until the new species grows in population to a painfully large extent.

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Author:	Dwagin [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 16:51 PM ]
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Author:	Dark Immolation [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 17:54 PM ]
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Rosencrantz wrote: So! I'm considering starting a group of Dragon-hunters ;P Y'know.. they'll be like whalers except they hunt dragons and dragonbloods for sport. First, get DM's to let 9+ lvs RDD change your racial type to Dragon. >_> And then, my good sir, then I shall create my Ranger with BoE Dragon and play him as a Vassal of Bahamut. nod In all seriousness, though, I'd really, really appreciate a ruling being made for "1/4th" dragons. They're not cannon, they're not even officially recognized by Amia, afaik, and they end up looking more dragon-like than some 10th lv RDD's. Following our race rules, anything other than mechanically recognized races and subraces should be requested anyway.

Author:	Rosencrantz [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 18:10 PM ]
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Pfft.. Nothing Beowulf couldn't handle, Rras!

Author:	Kraniumbrud [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 19:11 PM ]
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Author:	TeroSNS [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 19:22 PM ]
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Author:	tsukasa1991 [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 19:33 PM ]
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i have ranted about this until im blue in the face. the responce from those players and those who defend then... "im not listening im not listening blah blah you cant see me now byee!" kill self

Author:	Estara [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 19:34 PM ]
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There are already some who hate and hunt dragons and whom attempted to start some sort of group/s. You can always start by asking IG.

Author:	TeroSNS [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 19:37 PM ]
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the thing is that the more there are, the more common they become, and the more common they become, the more boring and annoying they become. They tend to downgrade the coolness factor when everyone is one.

Author:	Paradox [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 20:11 PM ]
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Does seem fun if it stays in a small group.

Author:	Herra Tutteri [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 7:45 AM ]
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Frankly, I don't understand the amount of people who want to play half or quarter or one tenth lizards. They can't possibly be THAT fancy...

Author:	Yurell [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 21:44 PM ]
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Dark Immolation wrote: First, get DM's to let 9+ lvs RDD change your racial type to Dragon. >_> Why 9, if the Dragon Apotheosis doesn't happen until 10?

Author:	Yurell [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 22:01 PM ]
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Personally, I'd be happy if the ability bonii were moved to later (even if that meant grandfathering the ones already in existence), but there's not really much chance of either of our ideas happening methinks.

Author:	Selvec Darkon [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 22:23 PM ]
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Thats true. Not everyone is motivated by Wings. Some are motivated by those STR bonuses xD. I'd like to see how many RDD characters stuck around if the STR bonuses were removed and replaced with other dragon-like features. I'd like to point out that none of you are half-dragon without DM approval. Far as I know, Dwagins the only one who has ever gotten DM approval.

Author:	Maverick00053 [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 22:42 PM ]
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Its how the trend works. I remember when everyone use to have tieflings, etc. If you pay attention Amia goes through race/class trends where you will see everyone and their mother with the same set up, and then with time it fades and changes.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 22:51 PM ]
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Handle it IC.

Author:	Dwagin [ Sat, Dec 04 2010, 23:36 PM ]
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I really don't see what the big deal is...Imitation is the highest form of flattery. ...I'll let you chew on whether I truly believe that.. or if I am just being wry. As an aside: I'll also note that Beowulf died to his wounds inflicted by the dragon, and his best blow broke his sword on the dragon, merely wounding it, Rosey-cheeks!

Author:	Murex [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 0:27 AM ]
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I dislike the look of the wings, so I will never play one. Tiny wings on the back of a humanoid body just looks odd to me. The idea of flight with tiny wings like that is also silly. The only characters I think look decent as part dragon, are the ones with their skin color changed.

Author:	Maverick00053 [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 0:38 AM ]
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Murex wrote: I dislike the look of the wings, so I will never play one. Tiny wings on the back of a humanoid body just looks odd to me. The idea of flight with tiny wings like that is also silly. The only characters I think look decent as part dragon, are the ones with their skin color changed. You think those wings are small? >.> You should see RDD wings on a fat half orc model then come back to me.

Author:	Ramika [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 0:52 AM ]
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Selvec Darkon wrote: Thats true. Not everyone is motivated by Wings. Some are motivated by those STR bonuses xD. I'd like to see how many RDD characters stuck around if the STR bonuses were removed and replaced with other dragon-like features. I'd like to point out that none of you are half-dragon without DM approval. Far as I know, Dwagins the only one who has ever gotten DM approval. There's three or four of us running around, Rras and Jordis (my half gold) being two of them. I think there's a half white and a half battle (?) as well, but I could be wrong on that. Moving on! With the plethora of dragonkin - almost all are RDDs. It's the only non-requested way to get one... so -that's- what you're mostly seeing (with the exception of the previously mentioned four-ish halfers). And as far as the half dragons are concerned (or, at least Rras and Jordis both), they're nothing more than experiments - though disciples bother them for -completely- different reasons. As for the wings, I wasn't motivated by those either. There's no RDD in my build, and it took a lot of convincing from other people to get me to allow Jordis to even grow some (partially because of my own hang ups, the DC cost, and the pain it would be IC). And that took almost six months, if not longer, IG. But! I won't say that's not a motivation, because it makes people feel special I guess.

Author:	Rosencrantz [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 1:36 AM ]
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TormakSaber wrote: Handle it IC. I agree. I probably should have went that route, though none of my current characters really burn with hate for them.. You can lock the topic if you think it's inappropiate. Dwagin: Grah! Well, Fine..! Dragons are the ultimate bosses, true enough. I feel like Beowulf, with its deep-seat in literature, has a pretty high say on how bad ass Dragons can be. But if they're bosses, then they are designed to be beaten! We just need a hero with a legendary sword!

Author:	DustSpray101 [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 1:44 AM ]
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or enough spells... but I digress.

Author:	Oinn [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 2:55 AM ]
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Rosencrantz : "... It's like they're the new Genasi! There's so bloody many of them! I feel like every fourth person I see on the surface is dragonblooded in some way..." Maverick00053: "... Its how the trend works. I remember when everyone use to have tieflings, etc. If you pay attention Amia goes through race/class trends where you will see everyone and their mother with the same set up, and then with time it fades and changes..." I would have to say I agree with Maverick. Interest in the racial abilities, looks, or just the sheer concept of the character tends to be from what I have seen, unfortunately, trendy. Like you said... 'its like they're the new Genasi'. Next maybe tieflings will again be 'the new dragonkin/dragonblood'. It reminds me of some faction roleplay. Some times there is a large influx of a group and heavy roleplay at a time, then it dies off. In a little while it will start gaining favor again, then follows the same route as before. Like the tide. Interest in group/religion/race...then interest in a different group/religion/race... Tide rolls in...tide rolls out.

Author:	Nysor [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 3:03 AM ]
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There are good RPers of exotic races, and piss poor ones. Just find the ones you like and RP with them. You can find some really quality genasi and dragonkin around. And you can also find their enemies. If you look, I bet you can find a bunch of very activist PCs. And in the FR setting, its not as if theyre realling activists. The common folk dont like dragonkin. Or genasi, or teiflings for that matter. Theyre rather xenophobic, and would be more likely to kill all the outsiders and mixed bloods than welcome them.

Author:	My Sovereign [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 3:53 AM ]
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Dwagin wrote: I really don't see what the big deal is...Imitation is the highest form of flattery. ...I'll let you chew on whether I truly believe that.. or if I am just being wry. As an aside: I'll also note that Beowulf died to his wounds inflicted by the dragon, and his best blow broke his sword on the dragon, merely wounding it, Rosey-cheeks! Tehe!

Author:	BlackDahlya [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 4:04 AM ]
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Urgh.. every time I see these threads I feel I should stop playing my dragonblooded just to spare me the annoyance of coming to the forums to see the usual ragefit threads against a specific race or class.

Author:	ShadowSoul89 [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 4:56 AM ]
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In regards to the wings, technically they are small for the humanoid body. Without any magic to support them, Dragon Disciples would probably only be able to fly for a limited time. ... Exactly how the widgets work

Author:	Lally [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 6:05 AM ]
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There's also too many charisma 20 gorgeous perfect breasted elf women but you don't see anyone complaining about that. Oh wait.

Author:	Ramika [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 6:13 AM ]
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ShadowSoul89 wrote: In regards to the wings, technically they are small for the humanoid body. Without any magic to support them, Dragon Disciples would probably only be able to fly for a limited time. ... Exactly how the widgets work Pretty much, and the way I've been RPly taught, they can't really fly so much as "sorta flap stupidly to get in the air and float away." My half draggy is nearly six feet tall and wears fullplate all of the time. Being able to fly like it's no issue is ... silly. Wings on dragon disciples are probably better for swimming than they would be flying.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 6:48 AM ]
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Quote: Wings (Ex) At 9th level, a dragon disciple grows a set of draconic wings. He may now fly at a speed equal to his normal land speed, with average maneuverability.

Author:	HellScourge [ Sun, Dec 05 2010, 7:27 AM ]
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Maverick00053 wrote: You think those wings are small? >.> You should see RDD wings on a fat half orc model then come back to me. Hin model + Wings (Which are still human sized). They are like an oversized fruitbat!