don't get dex bonus, item bonus or skill focus

On a natural 20-die roll, if you didn't beat the target's DC you automatically succeed the pickpocket and if you also beat the target’s DC with your natural 20-die roll, you get a bonus lift from the target.

If you can pickpocket me, I can turn around, PvP you, and take all your stuff. Actually, No, I can't, because Pickpocket is the only means of taking something from another player without consent.


Enjoy the main argument for no 'reliable' Pickpocket being implemented.

I'd like to point out that with one rank in PP you can turn around, PvP them and loot just as much from them as they took from you.

i'm sorry but a banite is worse than a pickpocket RPly

if you have an -OOC- problem with pickpocket keep it OOC.

I can do that with zero ranks. It's not a learned skill to loot your dead corpse. Pickpocket is a terribly implemented skill for PC vs PC.

Random thought ... what if pick pocket was a part of the job system???

Anyway, this mod uses Terra's pickpocket interceptor NWNX thinghy so I could write a completely new pp routine instead of doing stuff with widgets and negative skill effects.

Conditions that break the pickpocket routine
* target has been pickpocketed in the last 10 minutes (5 for testing)
* you are the target
* target is not a creature
* you got no PP skill ranks
* target is a PC an has less than 5 levels (disabled for testing)
* target doesn't count as a creature that has any pockets to lift
* distance between target is less than 3 meters

Pickpocket difficulty
25 base
+ target's Spot ranks (if an NPC has 0 Spot I buff to 10 + d10 for the rest of the session)
+ target's Wisdom modifier
+ 15 if seen, or
+ 30 if seen and not behind target
+ 10 * number of times being pickpocketed this session
+ 15 for every party member within 7 meters

Pickpocket roll
d100 base
+ PP ranks
+ Dex mod

Roll must be equal or larger than difficulty.

Loot & gold
On success you get either gold or loot (50% chance on either).

Gold: You take 1% of a PC's cash. The cap is levels * 250. The money you get from an NPC depends on the tileset (city gives more than forest) and ranges from 1*d100 to 3*d100.

Loot: Loot is dynamically generated and can be either a random job system gem, or a special loot item. These items come in 5 categories that are worth 5, 25, 100, 250, or 500 gold (they get 1-5 dots to show how much they are worth). Your PP roll determines in which category you fall. Each category has 6 items which range from a used handkerchief to jewelry. You get the name of the target on the item for bragging rights.

So, in effect you can't lift any 'real' item out of an inventory.

snip-out the awesome system.

Brain had some suggestions about what happens when you fail the roll.

No one here ever got ripped off IRL?
Cry some more at the loss of some gold easily replaced or a little trinket.

Pickpocket / Sleight of hand is a wonderful skill with many uses I have been honoured to witness in my few years of playing DnD. On another server, there was a rogue that would (while in stealth) openly roll to pickpocket from you, even though on this server there were no restrictions on the skill. This led to many a great encounter between victim and thief - even when the thief was allowed to succeed, both players could appreciate what was going on. The thief would be stealing from the victim, not the thief's player from the victim's player. There was respect involved.

It would be awesome if this kind of thing could happen on Amia.

There are respectful ways to use certain skills, and disrespectful ways to use them. Learn them.

-Require the thief to actually emote rather than a simple click and dash. Like Logicality stated, this allows for your victim to at least be a part of the process and RP.

Two questions:

1. Will Epic Skill Focus and magical item skill buffs contibute?
2. Is rolling a 1 stil an automatic fail? Hope not >_>

can't agree with that, you'd have to rob them visibly and even with invis there would be an emote, with a large risk and guarenteed rather than somewhat random outcomes. again barring if they are dead.

The thief can emote: *From the shadows behind >insert victim's name< a hidden hand reaches towards a pocket* ((Roll Hide (as he was hidden and appeared in order to use the skill), use pick pocket)).

Victim can then RP something to the effect of: ((Roll spot for the hidden part alone as the game will auto roll spot vs the pickpocket attempt.)) *>insert appropriate response depending upon the rolls<*

by forcing the RP you mean get caught 100% of the time. this is not pickpocketing, this is being a fool.

the whole idea is they -don't- see you -_-

by forcing the RP you mean get caught 100% of the time. this is not pickpocketing, this is being a fool.

the whole idea is they -don't- see you -_-

I give up, you can't give rouges a bad name they already have it, god...

We are thieves, were not meant to be liked IC, but OOC you have to understand this is a roleplay server and in a society such a FR, there are bound to be pick-pockets roaming the streets.

no I don't want to rob NPC's, the idea is you work a crowd, christ have you never seen films? if I took a skill to get caught 100% of the time what kind of rouge would that be? a joke is what. i'm done arguing you have obviously never played a rouge before pnp or otherwise