MoshingChris wrote:
Find out IC.
Indeed. Better fun that way.
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| Author: | Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 4:45 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Two of us found this portal in the orc caves that requires a key or item to transition through. The DM at the time had no idea what is was doing there, and its not part of the module or the hunting area as far as I know. So I'm assuming that a DM forgot to delete it after their events? Someone please elborate on this? We did some IC stuff about it, but since I have no idea if it's meant to be there or not, I'm confused if we should have acknowledged it. |
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| Author: | BlackDahlya [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 4:53 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Selvec Darkon wrote: Two of us found this portal in the orc caves that requires a key or item to transition through. The DM at the time had no idea what is was doing there, and its not part of the module or the hunting area as far as I know. So I'm assuming that a DM forgot to delete it after their events? Someone please elborate on this? We did some IC stuff about it, but since I have no idea if it's meant to be there or not, I'm confused if we should have acknowledged it. It leads somewhere, trust me. |
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| Author: | Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 4:57 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Dum Dum Dum DUUM... And now i got very interested to. |
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| Author: | MoshingChris [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 4:59 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Find out IC. |
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| Author: | Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 5:00 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Great. Given the DM had no idea either, it's use should be spread out amongst the DM team please. So mistakes don't happen again. So it can at least be confirmed that it's meant to be there. Also so people can invistigate into its use...as you can't do so without a DM. |
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| Author: | Jan [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 5:01 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Hasn't that door been there for years? |
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| Author: | BlackDahlya [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 5:01 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
MoshingChris wrote: Find out IC. Indeed. Better fun that way.
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| Author: | Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 5:01 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Jan wrote: Hasn't that door been there for years? Not a door, a purple swirely portal over a pentagram. Well if it's meant to be there, its meant to be there. Good. |
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| Author: | The Peacock [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 7:53 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
You just gave me IC information OOC!!! Must... Not... Meta-game... DAMN YOU!!!! |
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| Author: | Silvarus [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 8:11 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
The Peacock wrote: You just gave me IC information OOC!!! Must... Not... Meta-game... DAMN YOU!!!! Aaaaaaaaaa! |
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| Author: | Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 9:16 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Wait until he finds out that the subrace section also gives out information that should be found out IC, and the "New? Start here!" post tells you places you can go and NPC names. Whoops... |
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| Author: | Jyro X [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 14:50 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
I investigated this portal IC as well and the DM at the time (Tormie) stated they had no idea what the portal was for either and couldn't even tell us what would happen if we poked and prodded it. Makes investigation kinda impossible. |
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| Author: | Dark Immolation [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 18:14 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
There's a way through the portal. It is findable IC. Portals aren't always a "front door" And sometimes you still need a key. This is legit advice. I've been with a party that's gone through and back it. It's not a DM specific thing. 
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| Author: | Jyro X [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 18:27 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
The point was that DM's should have knowledge of what the portal is/is used for so that PC's can conduct proper IC investigations; not for people to brag that they know and are enlightened and other people should just find out. |
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| Author: | Dark Immolation [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 18:32 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Wow, that's a little bit of a leap, but I'll bite. DM's cant be expected to know every little thing in the module. I'm sure there are plenty of things that the Dev's put in that aren't known to DM's for a while. This is one of them. I don't think anyone's bragging so much as encouraging people to find out IC. At least I am. Seriously. If you can't get through a portal the way you're going, if there are no locks or keys or buttons on that side of it, what does it tell you? I'll gladly PM any DM that wants to know how the portal works, if they would like to know or feel they should know. |
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| Author: | Glyph [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 18:35 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
ICly does not mean use the DM channel it means find people with knowledge O_o |
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| Author: | Zinovy [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:18 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
How do the people with that knowledge get that knowledge in the first place? |
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| Author: | Glyph [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:21 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
I, am not a psychic. RP with DM's at events and other PC's speciallty knowledge i'd guess. if your trying to get through a portal look for a mage experienced enough to know of such things, and be patient, you might not get through on the first trip, unless you find someone thats been through it before *hint* |
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| Author: | Zinovy [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:26 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
I'm merely pointing out that whoever has been there before has had DM help, which is what you're suggesting all while decrying it. |
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| Author: | Glyph [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:35 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
let me put it this way, if you want it done ICly ask ICly. no one here is going to tell you how this portal works, unless your willing to seek out someone with the knowledge ICly and if that fails ask a DM for help, there is at least one person, he posted here. how can you find him? ICly PC threads perhaps. its all about trial and error, and spending time looking for an answer. if the DM turned around and just said "keys here stop bugging me" would you feel a sense of pride with your efforts oocly or icly? I have said my peice. I have no interest in bickering about this. |
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| Author: | Dark Immolation [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:37 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Zinovy wrote: I'm merely pointing out that whoever has been there before has had DM help, which is what you're suggesting all while decrying it. No, there was no DM involved. There is a completely legit way of finding it IC, without DM help, without any hints, without being told why or what or who or where. I say again, a party and I got through the portal before, there was no DM even on the server. We explored. And we found a way through it. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:38 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
I put it there so UD players could get to those areas because that CR isn't available in the UD. The idea behind it is quite clear if you see the UD areas, and if not it's a mystery. |
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| Author: | Zinovy [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:52 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
My point is mainly that if players want to examine it, it would be neat if DMs knew what it was to help that possibility in-game. Pointing out contradictions is not bickering. As for the IC way, now I'm curious too. |
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| Author: | Dark Immolation [ Wed, Jul 21 2010, 19:55 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Dark Immolation wrote: I'll gladly PM any DM that wants to know how the portal works, if they would like to know or feel they should know. Or they could just ask disco mcnuggets. |
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| Author: | Zanthair [ Thu, Jul 22 2010, 2:10 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
been through it, no dm help. its great, but there are ways for people to get through it. ask around and you might just find a way. disco also gave a big clue about where it leads to in his post.. |
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| Author: | Selvec Darkon [ Thu, Jul 22 2010, 2:20 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Dark Immolation wrote: Dark Immolation wrote: I'll gladly PM any DM that wants to know how the portal works, if they would like to know or feel they should know. Or they could just ask disco mcnuggets. ...No offense to Disco, but replies aren't instant, and as such the oppertunity can pass you by. This is not the only case of things being present in the module that Dm's have been unaware of. As such, these things cannot be explored, they are infact met with explanations of "I have NO idea what thats doing there". Which should not be the case. The DM's should be able to turn to you and say confidently "Find out IC." or "it's meant to be there", not be completely stumbed because they have no idea what's going on with it. DM's are meant to assist with problems and inquiries as much as provide quests and the other fun stuff, if they don't have information on things, they can't help someone, and infact they can cause more issues by being as confused as the players. What I'm saying is that the DM should at least know and be aware that these things are there for a reason. Clearly in this case, as in a few others of late, it has not been so. Clarification: This is not a rail at the DM's for not knowing. Its me being a little peeved that they weren't rightfully made aware. |
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| Author: | BrainSplitter [ Thu, Jul 22 2010, 2:48 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Concerning the portal in Brog Orc Caves |
Alot of older stuff isn't properly logged, since back in the day record keeping wasn't very high on the list. |
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